Bill making it a felony to protest against pipelines or other fossil fuel projects

[toomuchtime_]

Of course it will hold up in court. It doesn't make protesting a felony but only committing some already criminal acts by protesters felonies, for example, trespassing, vandalism and impeding other citizens in their legal activities.

It makes misdemeanors into felonies simply because it is against oil, gas and coal companies.

No it's because these crimes have a conspiratorial aspect and they are damaging the state's economy.

Regardless, making it felonies based only on who the victim is, and thst it is not a pson or citizen, is insanity.

The victim is the people of WV, and it is they who make the laws.

I agree that the people of WV are the victims. But of the companies, not the protesters.

There is no rational basis for that statement. The economy of WV would be damaged if they stopped the gas pipeline and that would negatively affect the lives or the people of WV.

 

[anynameyouwish]

BUILD THE PIPELINE!!!

USE YOUR OWN MONEY and stop trying to be a commy socialist stealing MY money for your personal agenda!


YOU PAY FOR IT!

then go right ahead and build it....I don't care.

 

[Jitss617]

OK go get yourself a felony you coward

No thanks. I'm not an idiot.

StY home

Whether I stay home or not is my decision.

You will

Like you know. Lol.

It wouldn't be my first time to protest.

Stay home

 

[Jitss617]

BUILD THE PIPELINE!!!

USE YOUR OWN MONEY and stop trying to be a commy socialist stealing MY money for your personal agenda!


YOU PAY FOR IT!

then go right ahead and build it....I don't care.

Huh? It’s going to save you thousands! All that cheap gas!

 

[WinterBorn]

It makes misdemeanors into felonies simply because it is against oil, gas and coal companies.

No it's because these crimes have a conspiratorial aspect and they are damaging the state's economy.

Regardless, making it felonies based only on who the victim is, and thst it is not a pson or citizen, is insanity.

The victim is the people of WV, and it is they who make the laws.

I agree that the people of WV are the victims. But of the companies, not the protesters.

There is no rational basis for that statement. The economy of WV would be damaged if they stopped the gas pipeline and that would negatively affect the lives or the people of WV.

Yes there is a basis for that statement.

The oil, gas, or coal is a temporary industry in any given location. Look at the people in WV who spent their lives digging coal. The coal mines played out, and they were left with a choice of relocating or being broke. And yes, the coal mines brought jobs. But when the mines played out, all that was left was environmental nightmares and black lung.

 

[WinterBorn]

No thanks. I'm not an idiot.

StY home

Whether I stay home or not is my decision.

You will

Like you know. Lol.

It wouldn't be my first time to protest.

Stay home

Repeating the same things doesn't increase the chances of me staying home.

I am happy to protest if I believe it is needed.

 

[WinterBorn]

BUILD THE PIPELINE!!!

USE YOUR OWN MONEY and stop trying to be a commy socialist stealing MY money for your personal agenda!


YOU PAY FOR IT!

then go right ahead and build it....I don't care.

Huh? It’s going to save you thousands! All that cheap gas!

Really?

 

[Jitss617]

StY home

Whether I stay home or not is my decision.

You will

Like you know. Lol.

It wouldn't be my first time to protest.

Stay home

Repeating the same things doesn't increase the chances of me staying home.

I am happy to protest if I believe it is needed.

Just don’t be disobedient

 

[Jitss617]

BUILD THE PIPELINE!!!

USE YOUR OWN MONEY and stop trying to be a commy socialist stealing MY money for your personal agenda!


YOU PAY FOR IT!

then go right ahead and build it....I don't care.

Huh? It’s going to save you thousands! All that cheap gas!

Really?

Yes

 

[toomuchtime_]

No it's because these crimes have a conspiratorial aspect and they are damaging the state's economy.

Regardless, making it felonies based only on who the victim is, and thst it is not a pson or citizen, is insanity.

The victim is the people of WV, and it is they who make the laws.

I agree that the people of WV are the victims. But of the companies, not the protesters.

There is no rational basis for that statement. The economy of WV would be damaged if they stopped the gas pipeline and that would negatively affect the lives or the people of WV.

Yes there is a basis for that statement.

The oil, gas, or coal is a temporary industry in any given location. Look at the people in WV who spent their lives digging coal. The coal mines played out, and they were left with a choice of relocating or being broke. And yes, the coal mines brought jobs. But when the mines played out, all that was left was environmental nightmares and black lung.

I said there was no rational basis for claiming the people of WV were being damaged by the pipeline, and you proved I was right. First of all, every industry is a temporary industry at any given location; Steel is a temporary industry - just ask the people in the rust belt; auto manufacturing is a temporary industry - just ask the people in Detroit who are watching their jobs going to Mexico. However, in WV it wasn't economic forces that caused so much unemployment but big government that closed down the market for coal and that closed the mines. There is still plenty of coal in WV but nowhere to sell it because of government regulation, so you should be protesting against big government rather than big oil and gas.

The pipeline benefits everyone because the cost of energy affects the cost of everything else from food to clothes to cars and so on, and pipelines are the least expensive way to transport gas. You are letting ideology cloud your thinking.

 

[WinterBorn]

Whether I stay home or not is my decision.

You will

Like you know. Lol.

It wouldn't be my first time to protest.

Stay home

Repeating the same things doesn't increase the chances of me staying home.

I am happy to protest if I believe it is needed.

Just don’t be disobedient

Says the boy pretending to call for a coup against democrats.

Does this saying sound familiar?
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

 

[WinterBorn]

Regardless, making it felonies based only on who the victim is, and thst it is not a pson or citizen, is insanity.

The victim is the people of WV, and it is they who make the laws.

I agree that the people of WV are the victims. But of the companies, not the protesters.

There is no rational basis for that statement. The economy of WV would be damaged if they stopped the gas pipeline and that would negatively affect the lives or the people of WV.

Yes there is a basis for that statement.

The oil, gas, or coal is a temporary industry in any given location. Look at the people in WV who spent their lives digging coal. The coal mines played out, and they were left with a choice of relocating or being broke. And yes, the coal mines brought jobs. But when the mines played out, all that was left was environmental nightmares and black lung.

I said there was no rational basis for claiming the people of WV were being damaged by the pipeline, and you proved I was right. First of all, every industry is a temporary industry at any given location; Steel is a temporary industry - just ask the people in the rust belt; auto manufacturing is a temporary industry - just ask the people in Detroit who are watching their jobs going to Mexico. However, in WV it wasn't economic forces that caused so much unemployment but big government that closed down the market for coal and that closed the mines. There is still plenty of coal in WV but nowhere to sell it because of government regulation, so you should be protesting against big government rather than big oil and gas.

The pipeline benefits everyone because the cost of energy affects the cost of everything else from food to clothes to cars and so on, and pipelines are the least expensive way to transport gas. You are letting ideology cloud your thinking.

No, I am not. Pipelines spill and the damage is often simply covered instead of being addressed.

And I am not saying it is all bad. I am just against any law that punishes protestors against gas, oil, and coal more. If I trespass against another industry, it is a misdomenor. But against the oil companies it is a felony?

 

[Jitss617]

You will

Like you know. Lol.

It wouldn't be my first time to protest.

Stay home

Repeating the same things doesn't increase the chances of me staying home.

I am happy to protest if I believe it is needed.

Just don’t be disobedient

Says the boy pretending to call for a coup against democrats.

Does this saying sound familiar?
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

No

 

[toomuchtime_]

The victim is the people of WV, and it is they who make the laws.

I agree that the people of WV are the victims. But of the companies, not the protesters.

There is no rational basis for that statement. The economy of WV would be damaged if they stopped the gas pipeline and that would negatively affect the lives or the people of WV.

Yes there is a basis for that statement.

The oil, gas, or coal is a temporary industry in any given location. Look at the people in WV who spent their lives digging coal. The coal mines played out, and they were left with a choice of relocating or being broke. And yes, the coal mines brought jobs. But when the mines played out, all that was left was environmental nightmares and black lung.

I said there was no rational basis for claiming the people of WV were being damaged by the pipeline, and you proved I was right. First of all, every industry is a temporary industry at any given location; Steel is a temporary industry - just ask the people in the rust belt; auto manufacturing is a temporary industry - just ask the people in Detroit who are watching their jobs going to Mexico. However, in WV it wasn't economic forces that caused so much unemployment but big government that closed down the market for coal and that closed the mines. There is still plenty of coal in WV but nowhere to sell it because of government regulation, so you should be protesting against big government rather than big oil and gas.

The pipeline benefits everyone because the cost of energy affects the cost of everything else from food to clothes to cars and so on, and pipelines are the least expensive way to transport gas. You are letting ideology cloud your thinking.

No, I am not. Pipelines spill and the damage is often simply covered instead of being addressed.

And I am not saying it is all bad. I am just against any law that punishes protestors against gas, oil, and coal more. If I trespass against another industry, it is a misdomenor. But against the oil companies it is a felony?

Actually, pipelines have an amazing record for safety, far better than trucks carrying fuel. The US has 2.4 million miles of oil and gas pipelines and spills are rare. You are not protesting against the oil and gas companies but against the people of WV who have sanctioned the construction of the pipeline. You are protesting against the rule of law, against democracy in WV. And now you are claiming the right to trespass, to vandalize and to prevent other people from doing their jobs and you don't even know what you are protesting against. Sounds like it should be a felony to me.

 

[WinterBorn]

BUILD THE PIPELINE!!!

USE YOUR OWN MONEY and stop trying to be a commy socialist stealing MY money for your personal agenda!


YOU PAY FOR IT!

then go right ahead and build it....I don't care.

Huh? It’s going to save you thousands! All that cheap gas!

Really?

Yes

Like you know. Lol.

It wouldn't be my first time to protest.

Stay home

Repeating the same things doesn't increase the chances of me staying home.

I am happy to protest if I believe it is needed.

Just don’t be disobedient

Says the boy pretending to call for a coup against democrats.

Does this saying sound familiar?
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

No

It should.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Free speech is certainly under attack from all angles, isn't it?

Most importantly, from the president. That's probably what gives these WV republicans the balls to do this.

 

[WinterBorn]

I agree that the people of WV are the victims. But of the companies, not the protesters.

There is no rational basis for that statement. The economy of WV would be damaged if they stopped the gas pipeline and that would negatively affect the lives or the people of WV.

Yes there is a basis for that statement.

The oil, gas, or coal is a temporary industry in any given location. Look at the people in WV who spent their lives digging coal. The coal mines played out, and they were left with a choice of relocating or being broke. And yes, the coal mines brought jobs. But when the mines played out, all that was left was environmental nightmares and black lung.

I said there was no rational basis for claiming the people of WV were being damaged by the pipeline, and you proved I was right. First of all, every industry is a temporary industry at any given location; Steel is a temporary industry - just ask the people in the rust belt; auto manufacturing is a temporary industry - just ask the people in Detroit who are watching their jobs going to Mexico. However, in WV it wasn't economic forces that caused so much unemployment but big government that closed down the market for coal and that closed the mines. There is still plenty of coal in WV but nowhere to sell it because of government regulation, so you should be protesting against big government rather than big oil and gas.

The pipeline benefits everyone because the cost of energy affects the cost of everything else from food to clothes to cars and so on, and pipelines are the least expensive way to transport gas. You are letting ideology cloud your thinking.

No, I am not. Pipelines spill and the damage is often simply covered instead of being addressed.

And I am not saying it is all bad. I am just against any law that punishes protestors against gas, oil, and coal more. If I trespass against another industry, it is a misdomenor. But against the oil companies it is a felony?

Actually, pipelines have an amazing record for safety, far better than trucks carrying fuel. The US has 2.4 million miles of oil and gas pipelines and spills are rare. You are not protesting against the oil and gas companies but against the people of WV who have sanctioned the construction of the pipeline. You are protesting against the rule of law, against democracy in WV. And now you are claiming the right to trespass, to vandalize and to prevent other people from doing their jobs and you don't even know what you are protesting against. Sounds like it should be a felony to me.

No, I am protesting the oil & gas companies buying politicians to make their work easier. I am protesting politicians being for sale after the people vote for them.

And yes, leaks from trucks are more common. But a truck only carries 11,000 or 12,000 gallons. Last November there was a leak in the Keystone Pipeline that spilled over 9,000 barrels of oil (378,000 gals). 31 full transport trucks would have to wreck and empty completely to equal that.

But it is still more buying politicians than anything.

 

[Jitss617]

BUILD THE PIPELINE!!!

USE YOUR OWN MONEY and stop trying to be a commy socialist stealing MY money for your personal agenda!


YOU PAY FOR IT!

then go right ahead and build it....I don't care.

Huh? It’s going to save you thousands! All that cheap gas!

Really?

Yes

Stay home

Repeating the same things doesn't increase the chances of me staying home.

I am happy to protest if I believe it is needed.

Just don’t be disobedient

Says the boy pretending to call for a coup against democrats.

Does this saying sound familiar?
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

No

It should.

Huh

 

[WinterBorn]

USE YOUR OWN MONEY and stop trying to be a commy socialist stealing MY money for your personal agenda!


YOU PAY FOR IT!

then go right ahead and build it....I don't care.

Huh? It’s going to save you thousands! All that cheap gas!

Really?

Yes

Repeating the same things doesn't increase the chances of me staying home.

I am happy to protest if I believe it is needed.

Just don’t be disobedient

Says the boy pretending to call for a coup against democrats.

Does this saying sound familiar?
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

No

It should.

Huh

Padding your numbers again?

I said you should recognize it because it is one of the more famous quotes of Samuel Adams. You said you had read and studied about him. I guess it was more of a picture book, huh?

 

[anynameyouwish]

BUILD THE PIPELINE!!!

USE YOUR OWN MONEY and stop trying to be a commy socialist stealing MY money for your personal agenda!


YOU PAY FOR IT!

then go right ahead and build it....I don't care.

Huh? It’s going to save you thousands! All that cheap gas!

how can it save me any money if I'm dead because you and your friends lynched me because I don't love trump?