"Biden's documents are different from Trump's documents"

[2aguy]

...I have been seeing a lot of people claiming this, so lets examine the differences.


"Biden's team reported it immediately, unlike Trump"

Correction, Biden's LAWYER who randomly found the documents reported it immediately. Why? Because he is a lawyer who knows that if he didnt do that, he would now be a part of this crime too. He isnt going to take the fall for The Big Guy. He already knows that the Biden's are going to be heavily investigated. He undoubtedly wants no part of that. Also, reporting it now doesnt mean that the crime of taking them in the first place wasnt committed. Admitting to murder doesnt mean you wont get in trouble for it.


"Biden only had 10 documents while Trump had 100"

Trump had a bunch of random stuff, like letters from Kim Jong Un. The amount of documents is irrelevant. Its either a crime to take documents or it isnt. Furthermore, according to CNN, Biden had material with the SCI classification, which is higher than Top Secret. This is the order of classification from lowest to highest... Classified, Secret, Top Secret, SCI. Also, its important to point out that Hillary had HUNDREDS of documents. Way more than Trump.


"Biden didnt know he had them, while Trump did know and he still refused to give them up."

You would have to be a fool to think that Biden didnt know. Aint no one gonna believe that horseshit. Biden also didnt have declassification powers as VP. Trump can declassify at will. I know you democrats will say "nuh uh", but you cant prove my statement wrong beyond that. Worse case scenario is that a legal debate will take place to determine if presidents can do what Trump did, but currently it isnt illegal. Biden taking them however is HIGHLY illegal and it isnt legally debatable.



More differences im seeing are the fact that we knew immediately in real time about Trumps documents. Bidens document scandal was hidden for 2 months. It was hidden right before the midterm elections in fact. I think we can all agree that there isnt a chance in fucking hell that Biden's homes will get raided by the FBI, unlike Trump. Hillary didnt get raided either, nor did Bill Clinton.

Biden having those documents is an actual felony………China had access to the unsecured documents……..since they funded his think tank…….

Now you can see the Hobson’s choice Obama is being forced to make. As I noted, the uncontested facts show that Joe Biden violated national security laws and, worse, put those same documents in an unsecured environment to which the Chinese had access. When they learned that Trump had documents in the Secret Service-secured environment of Mar-a-Lago, Dems thought execution was too good for him. I guess that’s the appropriate punishment for Biden, too, given that he committed the crime years before he gained the White House.

There is only one way to say that Biden is innocent, and that is for Obama to announce, “I told Joe he could take the documents.” However, if Obama makes that announcement, he has conceded, and all the Dems will be forced to concede, that a president can declassify documents simply by walking them out of the White House or authorizing someone else to do so.

In other words, to exonerate Biden, Obama must also exonerate Trump from the disgraceful, deeply (criminally?) dishonest charge leveled against Trump. I get a real kick imagining Obama sitting in the lavishly decorated office of one of his three luxury homes, cursing to himself that you can always trust Joe Biden to “F” things up.

Biden just put Obama in a delightfully serious bind

The headline is delicious: Vice President Biden left the White House taking classified documents with him. However, what’s really lovely is the problem this creates for Obama: After all, he’s the only one who can rescue Biden but, by doin...

www.americanthinker.com

 

[Mac1958]

Cracks me up how you think Biden took those documents illegally. What a shame you can't prove you're not hallucinating.

They have to ignore the behaviors and actions that were critical to the issue. As usual.

The behaviors and actions could not be more different. So to them, they don't exist.

As usual.

 

[Faun]

In a debate, silence is surrender.

And I graciously accept it.

 

[Faun]

No, every president keeps documents. Obama has more than anyone, by a factor of thousands of times more.

Obama does not, ya lyin' con.

Like I always say, if conservatives didn't lie, they'd have absolutely nothing to say.

 

[Faun]

Biden having those documents is an actual felony………China had access to the unsecured documents……..since they funded his think tank…….

Now you can see the Hobson’s choice Obama is being forced to make. As I noted, the uncontested facts show that Joe Biden violated national security laws and, worse, put those same documents in an unsecured environment to which the Chinese had access. When they learned that Trump had documents in the Secret Service-secured environment of Mar-a-Lago, Dems thought execution was too good for him. I guess that’s the appropriate punishment for Biden, too, given that he committed the crime years before he gained the White House.

There is only one way to say that Biden is innocent, and that is for Obama to announce, “I told Joe he could take the documents.” However, if Obama makes that announcement, he has conceded, and all the Dems will be forced to concede, that a president can declassify documents simply by walking them out of the White House or authorizing someone else to do so.

In other words, to exonerate Biden, Obama must also exonerate Trump from the disgraceful, deeply (criminally?) dishonest charge leveled against Trump. I get a real kick imagining Obama sitting in the lavishly decorated office of one of his three luxury homes, cursing to himself that you can always trust Joe Biden to “F” things up.

Biden just put Obama in a delightfully serious bind

The headline is delicious: Vice President Biden left the White House taking classified documents with him. However, what’s really lovely is the problem this creates for Obama: After all, he’s the only one who can rescue Biden but, by doin...

www.americanthinker.com

Exonerate Biden from what? He can't be charged. Why do conservatives read such garbage?

 

[Godboy]

Obama does not, ya lyin' con.

Like I always say, if conservatives didn't lie, they'd have absolutely nothing to say.

Obamas recods arent at the national archives. He kept them to put them in his library, but not a single hard copy exists at his library. Everything is digital and a shit ton of it is conspicuously not in this digital library.

Obama kept his records in an old furniture store. Multiple military convoys took them there.

 

[Faun]

Obamas recods arent at the national archives. He kept them to put them in his library, but not a single hard copy exists at his library. Everything is digital and a shit ton of it is conspicuously not in this digital library.

Obama kept his records in an old furniture store. Multiple military convoys took them there.

You people are truly retarded.

This is old news, you moron. Obama turned them over to the NARA and the NARA has them stored at that warehouse. NARA has control of them, not Obama.

 

[SweetSue92]

...I have been seeing a lot of people claiming this, so lets examine the differences.


"Biden's team reported it immediately, unlike Trump"

Correction, Biden's LAWYER who randomly found the documents reported it immediately. Why? Because he is a lawyer who knows that if he didnt do that, he would now be a part of this crime too. He isnt going to take the fall for The Big Guy. He already knows that the Biden's are going to be heavily investigated. He undoubtedly wants no part of that. Also, reporting it now doesnt mean that the crime of taking them in the first place wasnt committed. Admitting to murder doesnt mean you wont get in trouble for it.


"Biden only had 10 documents while Trump had 100"

Trump had a bunch of random stuff, like letters from Kim Jong Un. The amount of documents is irrelevant. Its either a crime to take documents or it isnt. Furthermore, according to CNN, Biden had material with the SCI classification, which is higher than Top Secret. This is the order of classification from lowest to highest... Classified, Secret, Top Secret, SCI. Also, its important to point out that Hillary had HUNDREDS of documents. Way more than Trump.


"Biden didnt know he had them, while Trump did know and he still refused to give them up."

You would have to be a fool to think that Biden didnt know. Aint no one gonna believe that horseshit. Biden also didnt have declassification powers as VP. Trump can declassify at will. I know you democrats will say "nuh uh", but you cant prove my statement wrong beyond that. Worse case scenario is that a legal debate will take place to determine if presidents can do what Trump did, but currently it isnt illegal. Biden taking them however is HIGHLY illegal and it isnt legally debatable.



More differences im seeing are the fact that we knew immediately in real time about Trumps documents. Bidens document scandal was hidden for 2 months. It was hidden right before the midterm elections in fact. I think we can all agree that there isnt a chance in fucking hell that Biden's homes will get raided by the FBI, unlike Trump. Hillary didnt get raided either, nor did Bill Clinton.

Eleven days into 2023 and it's already shaping up to be quite something

 

[SweetSue92]

They have to ignore the behaviors and actions that were critical to the issue. As usual.

The behaviors and actions could not be more different. So to them, they don't exist.

As usual.

Right so Biden's son selling secrets to China is no biggie.

"What color is the sky in your world?"

 

[Faun]

Eleven days into 2023 and it's already shaping up to be quite something

No, not really.

 

[Godboy]

You people are truly retarded.

This is old news, you moron. Obama turned them over to the NARA and the NARA has them stored at that warehouse. NARA has control of them, not Obama.

No. Absolutely not. You will find many NEW articles that make that claim, but go back and find one from before Trump being raided. You wont find shit that makes that claim.

 

[Mac1958]

Right so Biden's son selling secrets to China is no biggie.

"What color is the sky in your world?"

Deflection to an entirely different topic noted and appreciated.

Gawd, you're boring.

 

[SweetSue92]

Deflection to an entirely different topic noted and appreciated.

Gawd, you're boring.

Not even remotely a different topic. Do you know what those classified papers found were about?

 

[Faun]

Right so Biden's son selling secrets to China is no biggie.

"What color is the sky in your world?"

We're talking about Biden having possession of classified documents. The I wanna hump Hunter Biden thread is over there -->

 

[Faun]

Not even remotely a different topic. Do you know what those classified papers found were about?

U.K., Ukraine and Iran. i.e., not China.

 

[SweetSue92]

We're talking about Biden having possession of classified documents. The I wanna hump Hunter Biden thread is over there -->

Uh-huh. Having to do with Ukraine. Now, why do you think the lawyers want to show that they did the right thing and turned them over?

Hmmm maybe to exonerate themselves?

The harder you all have tried to destroy your enemies, the worse you are being destroyed. It's Biblical. I mean that literally.

 

[Faun]

No. Absolutely not. You will find many NEW articles that make that claim, but go back and find one from before Trump being raided. You wont find shit that makes that claim.

New articles don't alter the reality of the old ones.

First stop for Obama library archives? An empty furniture store in Hoffman Estates

Before the doors of President Barack Obama’s library open on Chicago’s South Side, truckloads of White House archives will be shipped to a former furniture store in the northwest suburb…

www.chicagotribune.com

A massive volume of paperwork, electronic data and artifacts will find a temporary home at the old Plunkett Home Furnishings store on Golf Road in Hoffman Estates. As many as 120 employees will be brought in by the National Archives and Records Administration to sort through the material, which ultimately will be part of the Obama Presidential Center.

Technically, the National Archives doesn't take legal custody of Obama's documents until 12:01 p.m. Jan. 20, after the next commander in chief takes the oath. But with an OK from the White House, the agency can begin shipping and organizing some materials well before that date, Laster said.​

 

[Mac1958]

Not even remotely a different topic. Do you know what those classified papers found were about?

No. What were they about?

 

[Faun]

Uh-huh. Having to do with Ukraine. Now, why do you think the lawyers want to show that they did the right thing and turned them over?

Hmmm maybe to exonerate themselves?

The harder you all have tried to destroy your enemies, the worse you are being destroyed. It's Biblical. I mean that literally.

Imbecile, you were talking about China, not Ukraine...

Right so Biden's son selling secrets to China is no biggie.

"What color is the sky in your world?"

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I swear, talking to you freaks makes me feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone. You have absolutely no idea what reality is.

 

[SeaMajor7]

No, not really.

Interviewer: The Soviets use the phase, “ideological subversion”. What do they mean by that?


Bezmenov: Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate overt and open. You can see it with your own eyes. All you have to do, all the American mass media has to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes and they can see. There’s no mystery. There’s nothing to do with espionage. I know espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic, it sells more deodorants through their advertising, probably. That’s why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of thrillers. But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all! According to my opinion, and the opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, (2 Russian words, активные something, I couldn’t catch it) in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is, to change the perception of reality of every American to such as extent that in spite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country.
It’s a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages, the first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which is required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of your enemy. In other words, Marxism / Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism.

The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already, for the last 25 years, actually it’s over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is being done by Americans to Americans thanks to a lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter any more. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him a concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he’s going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When a military boot crushes his balls, then he will understand, but not before that. That’s the tragedy of the situation of demoralization.

And then there's Faun...