Biden = War in the Middle East

[Indeependent]

Wasn't Jarod supposed to fix this issue?

What happened?

Joe Biden happened! Duh?

So, Biden was the negotiator for ME "peace" plan?

No, Joe Biden is the "enabler" of Iran...the number one sponsor of world terror! Biden flushed all the good work of Jared Kushner right down the toilet with his Middle East foreign policy. We're right back to the failed policies of the Obama years.

Jared accomplished NOTHING.. and you know nothing about the ME or US foreign policy. The objective in Iran is to get them to rejoin the interational community as good citizens.

Trump couldn't negotiate out of a wet paper bag..

He gave Israel everything and got NOTHING in return. He wanted them to like him an praise him.. Same with Putin. Trump isn't a Russian agent.. That's laughable. Trump isnt smmart enough and can't keep his mouth shut.. He just wants Putin approval judging by his groveling letters to Putin in the past.

attn. cyberbuddies. surada is an EXPERT on the middle east-----she has been EXPOSED
to the same islamo nazi bullshit to which I was exposed from childhood to old age, starting
with published propaganda written by escaped nazi war criminals---moving on to young
muslims in the USA and now---DA NET. She is an asset here----you can derive the FULL LINE
OF BULLSHIT so easily

What Nazi war criminals? They didn't go to the Midle East.

You have nothing but personal attacks, do you rosie?

sheeeesh you are pretending not to know-----you liked them so much? They are
the guys who elaborated lots of the bullshit you spew and that which is spewed in
mosques. --------uhm.......some of your bestest friends?

Oh don't be silly.
When Nazis mean "anti-Arab" when they say "anti-Semitic", so the last place any Nazis would hide out is in the Mideast.
Nazis are racist, and Arabs are not white to them.
(But Jews are considered white by Nazis, by the way.)

I see you haven't read Mein Kampf...I have.
Truth be told, you've never read anything in your pathetic but Arab web-sites.

 

[Oldestyle]

there was once a very nice guy who became MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY----nice guy---
well intentioned---smart. ----The poor guy---thru no fault of his own----- was born
MELANINATED----ie his melanocytes produced lots more melanin than do mine.
When he became Mayor people were really happy------but his fellow BIG TIME
MELANIN producers took it personally and treated it as a PASS to engage in
riots. They destroyed his political career------RIP---DAVID DINKINS.

Well what do you know, something we agree on, that David Dinkins did a good job.

{...

Mayoralty​

Dinkins entered office in January 1990 pledging racial healing, and famously referred to New York City's demographic diversity as a "gorgeous mosaic".[22] The crime rate in New York City had risen alarmingly during the 1980s, and the rate of homicide in particular reached an all-time high of 2,245 cases during 1990, the first year of the Dinkins administration.[23] The rates of most crimes, including all categories of violent crime, then declined during the remainder of his four-year term. That ended a 30-year upward spiral and initiated a trend of falling rates that continued and accelerated beyond his term.[24][25] However, the high absolute levels, the peak early in his administration, and the only modest decline subsequently (homicide down 12% from 1990 to 1993)[26] resulted in Dinkins' suffering politically from the perception that crime remained out of control on his watch.[27][28] Dinkins in fact initiated a hiring program that expanded the police department nearly 25%. The New York Times reported, "He obtained the State Legislature's permission to dedicate a tax to hire thousands of police officers, and he fought to preserve a portion of that anticrime money to keep schools open into the evening, an award-winning initiative that kept tens of thousands of teenagers off the street."[28][29]

During his final days in office, Dinkins made last-minute negotiations with the sanitation workers, presumably to preserve the public status of garbage removal. Giuliani, who had defeated Dinkins in the 1993 mayoral race, blamed Dinkins for a "cheap political trick" when Dinkins planned the resignation of Victor Gotbaum, Dinkins' appointee on the board of education, thus guaranteeing Gotbaum's replacement six months in office.[30] Dinkins also signed a last-minute 99-year lease with the USTA National Tennis Center. By negotiating a fee for New York City based on the event's gross income, the Dinkins administration made a deal with the US Open that brings more economic benefit to the City of New York each year than the New York Yankees, New York Mets, New York Knicks, and New York Rangers combined.[2] The city's revenue-producing events Fashion Week, Restaurant Week, and Broadway on Broadway were all created under Dinkins.[31]

Dinkins's term was marked by polarizing events such as the Family Red Apple boycott, a boycott of a Korean-owned grocery in Flatbush, Brooklyn, and the 1991 Crown Heights riot. When Lemrick Nelson was acquitted of murdering Yankel Rosenbaum during the Crown Heights riots, Dinkins said, "I have no doubt that in this case the criminal-justice system has operated fairly and openly."[32] Later he wrote in his memoirs, "I continue to fail to understand that verdict."[2]

In 1991, when "Iraqi Scud missiles were falling" in Israel[33] and the Mayor's press secretary said "security would be tight and gas masks would be provided for the contingent",[34] Mayor Dinkins visited Israel as a sign of support.[35]

The Dinkins administration was adversely affected by a declining economy, which led to lower tax revenue and budget shortfalls.[36] Nevertheless, Dinkins' mayoralty was marked by a number of significant achievements.[36] New York City's crime rate, including the murder rate, declined in Dinkins' final years in office; Dinkins persuaded the state legislature to dedicate certain tax revenue for crime control (including an increase in the size of the New York Police Department along with after-school programs for teenagers), and he hired Raymond W. Kelly as police commissioner.[36] Times Square was cleaned up during Dinkins' term, and he persuaded The Walt Disney Company to rehabilitate the old New Amsterdam Theatre on 42nd Street.[36] The city negotiated a 99-year lease of city park space to the United States Tennis Association to create the USTA National Tennis Center (which Mayor Michael Bloomberg later called "the only good athletic sports stadium deal, not just in New York, but in the country").[36] Dinkins continued an initiative begun by Ed Koch to rehabilitate dilapidated housing in northern Harlem, the South Bronx, and Brooklyn; overall more housing was rehabilitated in Dinkins' only term than Giuliani's two terms.[36] With the support of Governor Mario Cuomo, the city invested in supportive housing for mentally ill homeless people and achieved a decrease in the size of the city's homeless shelter population to its lowest point in two decades.[28]

1993 election​

Main article: 1993 New York City mayoral election
In 1993, Dinkins lost to Republican Rudy Giuliani in a rematch of the 1989 election. Dinkins earned 48.3 percent of the vote, down from 51 percent in 1989.[37] One factor in his loss was his perceived indifference to the plight of the Jewish community during the Crown Heights riot.[38] Another was a strong turnout for Giuliani in Staten Island; a referendum on Staten Island's secession from New York was placed on the ballot that year by Democratic Governor Mario Cuomo and the New York State Legislature.[2]
...}

Dinkins did an awful job as Mayor! The city was unsafe to live in before Rudy G took over. I know because I was a frequent visitor back then.

 

[Oldestyle]

Ilhan Omar Justified Attacks on Israel and Condemned Defenses Against Them

You might think that America's politicians would be supportive to Israelis, given the situation. Some have been. But when it comes to the progressive left, the messaging has been astonishing.

www.google.com

Opinion | Hamas Tests Israel—and Biden

Iran’s Palestinian ally reignites its conflict with the Jewish state.

www.google.com

Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts

Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.

Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)

First of all, the Palestinians did NOT "misbehave" like you claim, since the rockets had to be fired in retaliation for the Zionist attacks and murders on the Temple Mount and home confiscations.
Second is that we only give the Palestinians $200 million a year, not even enough to cover the cost of garbage collection, compared to the $5 billion we give Israel annually. And that $200 million is required by treaties going back to Reagan, Carter, Bush and Clinton.
You have to give it by US law.
It is not optional.

You fire thousands of rockets over a small disturbance at the Temple Mount and a handful of home confiscations that have been in dispute for decades? Who does that? Yet you claim the Palestinians HAD to fire them? That's a crock. They fired them because they wanted to fire them and were looking for an excuse to do so.

Israel needed to provoke violence to justify their latest land grab. Nothing has changed in 70 years.

Justify it to whom?

 

[Rigby5]

Ilhan Omar Justified Attacks on Israel and Condemned Defenses Against Them

You might think that America's politicians would be supportive to Israelis, given the situation. Some have been. But when it comes to the progressive left, the messaging has been astonishing.

www.google.com

Opinion | Hamas Tests Israel—and Biden

Iran’s Palestinian ally reignites its conflict with the Jewish state.

www.google.com

Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts

Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.

Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)

Trump's actions brought turmoil to the Middle East. Trump cut 'em off and they hadn't "misbehaved"
whatever the hell that means. It was an explosion waiting to happen. You are an expert on the Middle East, yes?

What Trump action brought turmoil to the Middle East and why did it take YEARS for the turmoil to begin? Trump cut the Palestinians off from the money we send them so they won't misbehave...money they take from liberals like Obama and Biden and spend on terror attacks on Israel. They're right back to the terror attacks because they KNOW that Biden will never cut off their aid!

remember the FLOTILLAS-----concerned americans rejoiced that palestinian children
were FINALLY getting all the crayons they needed. I would be interested in the costs
incurred by the jettisoning of even ONE missile into Israel-----my sense is that even one
would equal a ten year supply of crayolas. The latest boast in the name of allah----has been
"we ain't even put a dent into our endless supply of muzzie baby killing bombs---
AHUMDIALLAH

Wrong.
The Palestinians do not have missiles, but unguided ballistic rockets instead, that cost only about $100 or less.
And since the purpose of the rockets is to stop murders and thefts by Israel, they are of much higher priority.

 

[surada]

Ilhan Omar Justified Attacks on Israel and Condemned Defenses Against Them

You might think that America's politicians would be supportive to Israelis, given the situation. Some have been. But when it comes to the progressive left, the messaging has been astonishing.

www.google.com

Opinion | Hamas Tests Israel—and Biden

Iran’s Palestinian ally reignites its conflict with the Jewish state.

www.google.com

Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts

Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.

Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)

First of all, the Palestinians did NOT "misbehave" like you claim, since the rockets had to be fired in retaliation for the Zionist attacks and murders on the Temple Mount and home confiscations.
Second is that we only give the Palestinians $200 million a year, not even enough to cover the cost of garbage collection, compared to the $5 billion we give Israel annually. And that $200 million is required by treaties going back to Reagan, Carter, Bush and Clinton.
You have to give it by US law.
It is not optional.

I believe Trump was referring to the 370 million we give to the UN fund that provides assistance to Palestinian "refugees". THAT is totally optional.

And how does that compare with 5 billion a year for 8 million Jews?

 

[surada]

Ilhan Omar Justified Attacks on Israel and Condemned Defenses Against Them

You might think that America's politicians would be supportive to Israelis, given the situation. Some have been. But when it comes to the progressive left, the messaging has been astonishing.

www.google.com

Opinion | Hamas Tests Israel—and Biden

Iran’s Palestinian ally reignites its conflict with the Jewish state.

www.google.com

Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts

Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.

Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)

First of all, the Palestinians did NOT "misbehave" like you claim, since the rockets had to be fired in retaliation for the Zionist attacks and murders on the Temple Mount and home confiscations.
Second is that we only give the Palestinians $200 million a year, not even enough to cover the cost of garbage collection, compared to the $5 billion we give Israel annually. And that $200 million is required by treaties going back to Reagan, Carter, Bush and Clinton.
You have to give it by US law.
It is not optional.

You fire thousands of rockets over a small disturbance at the Temple Mount and a handful of home confiscations that have been in dispute for decades? Who does that? Yet you claim the Palestinians HAD to fire them? That's a crock. They fired them because they wanted to fire them and were looking for an excuse to do so.

Israel needed to provoke violence to justify their latest land grab. Nothing has changed in 70 years.

Justify it to whom?

The world..

 

[Rigby5]

Poor, needy JoeB...You are fully aware that The NT is sending you to the Eternal Lake of Fire.
But, then again, you never read it, did you?

Did you know Hebrew has no word for love?
The word means to give.
When you show Brown people your concern, don't love them, give to them.

Yes, the NT felt that just blaming God for all the natural catastrophes like the OT did wasn't going to fly with people who could actually read. So they needed to up the ante to keep the money flowing.

Christians are idiots
Jews are idiots
Muslims are idiots.

Anyone who thinks there's a magic fairy in the sky is an idiot.

Muslims are the least of the idiots.
Unlike the greed and fear of the Old and New Testaments, Islam has a much greater purpose.
Since government could not be trusted back then, Islam was the second attempt at putting government institutions into religion, so they would be permanent.
The Ancient Egyptians started that idea.
They gave the priesthood control over granaries, seed storage, food production, taking care of widows and orphans, etc.
Islam did even more of the same.
Instead of the corrupt government getting taxes, the more trustworthy priests in the Mosques got the weekly tithing.
This allowed the priests to take care of gran storage, widows and orphans, etc., and is the whole start of the social welfare system we understand we need these days.

I am not saying religion is the best way to conduct social services or that we need it any more, but considering the corrupt governments of ancient times, it was revolutionary and incredibly humane. It was the whole origin of the idea of individuals having value and rights in a growing impersonalized urban life. It was the start of civilization. Instead of just 10 commandments, the Quran covers almost every practical problem and choice that is likely to come up, and it always stresses that "God is merciful" or "God is forgiving", so it always stresses the least violent solution to any problem. The only problem with the Quran is that it was advice for a war time society, so it is way too strict for me.

With all due respect, Rigby...the "priests" in this discussion are the Mullahs and they aren't spending money on "grain" they're spending it on terror!

I disagree.
There has never been a case of Moslem conducting aggressive terror in all of history, that I am aware of.
Do imperialist countries deserve having planes hijacked?
Yes of course they do.
Look at what Truman did to the Palestinians, in total violation of international law and 2 treaties of the WWI allies.
Look at the US lies about WMD in Iraq.
The invasion of Afghanistan was also completely illegal, immoral, and murder.
We were criminal in our actions against Qaddafi, Mosei, Assad, Saddam, etc.
Out Mideast murder toll in the last 20 years is well over a million innocent people.

 

[irosie91]

there was once a very nice guy who became MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY----nice guy---
well intentioned---smart. ----The poor guy---thru no fault of his own----- was born
MELANINATED----ie his melanocytes produced lots more melanin than do mine.
When he became Mayor people were really happy------but his fellow BIG TIME
MELANIN producers took it personally and treated it as a PASS to engage in
riots. They destroyed his political career------RIP---DAVID DINKINS.

Well what do you know, something we agree on, that David Dinkins did a good job.

{...

Mayoralty​

Dinkins entered office in January 1990 pledging racial healing, and famously referred to New York City's demographic diversity as a "gorgeous mosaic".[22] The crime rate in New York City had risen alarmingly during the 1980s, and the rate of homicide in particular reached an all-time high of 2,245 cases during 1990, the first year of the Dinkins administration.[23] The rates of most crimes, including all categories of violent crime, then declined during the remainder of his four-year term. That ended a 30-year upward spiral and initiated a trend of falling rates that continued and accelerated beyond his term.[24][25] However, the high absolute levels, the peak early in his administration, and the only modest decline subsequently (homicide down 12% from 1990 to 1993)[26] resulted in Dinkins' suffering politically from the perception that crime remained out of control on his watch.[27][28] Dinkins in fact initiated a hiring program that expanded the police department nearly 25%. The New York Times reported, "He obtained the State Legislature's permission to dedicate a tax to hire thousands of police officers, and he fought to preserve a portion of that anticrime money to keep schools open into the evening, an award-winning initiative that kept tens of thousands of teenagers off the street."[28][29]

During his final days in office, Dinkins made last-minute negotiations with the sanitation workers, presumably to preserve the public status of garbage removal. Giuliani, who had defeated Dinkins in the 1993 mayoral race, blamed Dinkins for a "cheap political trick" when Dinkins planned the resignation of Victor Gotbaum, Dinkins' appointee on the board of education, thus guaranteeing Gotbaum's replacement six months in office.[30] Dinkins also signed a last-minute 99-year lease with the USTA National Tennis Center. By negotiating a fee for New York City based on the event's gross income, the Dinkins administration made a deal with the US Open that brings more economic benefit to the City of New York each year than the New York Yankees, New York Mets, New York Knicks, and New York Rangers combined.[2] The city's revenue-producing events Fashion Week, Restaurant Week, and Broadway on Broadway were all created under Dinkins.[31]

Dinkins's term was marked by polarizing events such as the Family Red Apple boycott, a boycott of a Korean-owned grocery in Flatbush, Brooklyn, and the 1991 Crown Heights riot. When Lemrick Nelson was acquitted of murdering Yankel Rosenbaum during the Crown Heights riots, Dinkins said, "I have no doubt that in this case the criminal-justice system has operated fairly and openly."[32] Later he wrote in his memoirs, "I continue to fail to understand that verdict."[2]

In 1991, when "Iraqi Scud missiles were falling" in Israel[33] and the Mayor's press secretary said "security would be tight and gas masks would be provided for the contingent",[34] Mayor Dinkins visited Israel as a sign of support.[35]

The Dinkins administration was adversely affected by a declining economy, which led to lower tax revenue and budget shortfalls.[36] Nevertheless, Dinkins' mayoralty was marked by a number of significant achievements.[36] New York City's crime rate, including the murder rate, declined in Dinkins' final years in office; Dinkins persuaded the state legislature to dedicate certain tax revenue for crime control (including an increase in the size of the New York Police Department along with after-school programs for teenagers), and he hired Raymond W. Kelly as police commissioner.[36] Times Square was cleaned up during Dinkins' term, and he persuaded The Walt Disney Company to rehabilitate the old New Amsterdam Theatre on 42nd Street.[36] The city negotiated a 99-year lease of city park space to the United States Tennis Association to create the USTA National Tennis Center (which Mayor Michael Bloomberg later called "the only good athletic sports stadium deal, not just in New York, but in the country").[36] Dinkins continued an initiative begun by Ed Koch to rehabilitate dilapidated housing in northern Harlem, the South Bronx, and Brooklyn; overall more housing was rehabilitated in Dinkins' only term than Giuliani's two terms.[36] With the support of Governor Mario Cuomo, the city invested in supportive housing for mentally ill homeless people and achieved a decrease in the size of the city's homeless shelter population to its lowest point in two decades.[28]

1993 election​

Main article: 1993 New York City mayoral election
In 1993, Dinkins lost to Republican Rudy Giuliani in a rematch of the 1989 election. Dinkins earned 48.3 percent of the vote, down from 51 percent in 1989.[37] One factor in his loss was his perceived indifference to the plight of the Jewish community during the Crown Heights riot.[38] Another was a strong turnout for Giuliani in Staten Island; a referendum on Staten Island's secession from New York was placed on the ballot that year by Democratic Governor Mario Cuomo and the New York State Legislature.[2]
...}

Dinkins did an awful job as Mayor! The city was unsafe to live in before Rudy G took over. I know because I was a frequent visitor back then.

I lived there-----DINKINS had a terrible handicap-----which was ACTUALLY expressed
now and then by street thugs "THE MAYOR SAID WE COULD DO THIS" I liked Rudy too,
but he could never do what he did then-----now.

 

[surada]

Poor, needy JoeB...You are fully aware that The NT is sending you to the Eternal Lake of Fire.
But, then again, you never read it, did you?

Did you know Hebrew has no word for love?
The word means to give.
When you show Brown people your concern, don't love them, give to them.

Yes, the NT felt that just blaming God for all the natural catastrophes like the OT did wasn't going to fly with people who could actually read. So they needed to up the ante to keep the money flowing.

Christians are idiots
Jews are idiots
Muslims are idiots.

Anyone who thinks there's a magic fairy in the sky is an idiot.

Muslims are the least of the idiots.
Unlike the greed and fear of the Old and New Testaments, Islam has a much greater purpose.
Since government could not be trusted back then, Islam was the second attempt at putting government institutions into religion, so they would be permanent.
The Ancient Egyptians started that idea.
They gave the priesthood control over granaries, seed storage, food production, taking care of widows and orphans, etc.
Islam did even more of the same.
Instead of the corrupt government getting taxes, the more trustworthy priests in the Mosques got the weekly tithing.
This allowed the priests to take care of gran storage, widows and orphans, etc., and is the whole start of the social welfare system we understand we need these days.

I am not saying religion is the best way to conduct social services or that we need it any more, but considering the corrupt governments of ancient times, it was revolutionary and incredibly humane. It was the whole origin of the idea of individuals having value and rights in a growing impersonalized urban life. It was the start of civilization. Instead of just 10 commandments, the Quran covers almost every practical problem and choice that is likely to come up, and it always stresses that "God is merciful" or "God is forgiving", so it always stresses the least violent solution to any problem. The only problem with the Quran is that it was advice for a war time society, so it is way too strict for me.

With all due respect, Rigby...the "priests" in this discussion are the Mullahs and they aren't spending money on "grain" they're spending it on terror!

For God's sake Bibi has been threatening Iran since 1996.

 

[irosie91]

Poor, needy JoeB...You are fully aware that The NT is sending you to the Eternal Lake of Fire.
But, then again, you never read it, did you?

Did you know Hebrew has no word for love?
The word means to give.
When you show Brown people your concern, don't love them, give to them.

Yes, the NT felt that just blaming God for all the natural catastrophes like the OT did wasn't going to fly with people who could actually read. So they needed to up the ante to keep the money flowing.

Christians are idiots
Jews are idiots
Muslims are idiots.

Anyone who thinks there's a magic fairy in the sky is an idiot.

Muslims are the least of the idiots.
Unlike the greed and fear of the Old and New Testaments, Islam has a much greater purpose.
Since government could not be trusted back then, Islam was the second attempt at putting government institutions into religion, so they would be permanent.
The Ancient Egyptians started that idea.
They gave the priesthood control over granaries, seed storage, food production, taking care of widows and orphans, etc.
Islam did even more of the same.
Instead of the corrupt government getting taxes, the more trustworthy priests in the Mosques got the weekly tithing.
This allowed the priests to take care of gran storage, widows and orphans, etc., and is the whole start of the social welfare system we understand we need these days.

I am not saying religion is the best way to conduct social services or that we need it any more, but considering the corrupt governments of ancient times, it was revolutionary and incredibly humane. It was the whole origin of the idea of individuals having value and rights in a growing impersonalized urban life. It was the start of civilization. Instead of just 10 commandments, the Quran covers almost every practical problem and choice that is likely to come up, and it always stresses that "God is merciful" or "God is forgiving", so it always stresses the least violent solution to any problem. The only problem with the Quran is that it was advice for a war time society, so it is way too strict for me.

With all due respect, Rigby...the "priests" in this discussion are the Mullahs and they aren't spending money on "grain" they're spending it on terror!

I disagree.
There has never been a case of Moslem conducting aggressive terror in all of history, that I am aware of.
Do imperialist countries deserve having planes hijacked?
Yes of course they do.
Look at what Truman did to the Palestinians, in total violation of international law and 2 treaties of the WWI allies.
Look at the US lies about WMD in Iraq.
The invasion of Afghanistan was also completely illegal, immoral, and murder.
We were criminal in our actions against Qaddafi, Mosei, Assad, Saddam, etc.
Out Mideast murder toll in the last 20 years is well over a million innocent people.

you could write the Khutbah Jumaats that have galvanized the murder of hundreds
of millions and COUNTING

 

[kaz]

Ilhan Omar Justified Attacks on Israel and Condemned Defenses Against Them

You might think that America's politicians would be supportive to Israelis, given the situation. Some have been. But when it comes to the progressive left, the messaging has been astonishing.

www.google.com

Opinion | Hamas Tests Israel—and Biden

Iran’s Palestinian ally reignites its conflict with the Jewish state.

www.google.com

Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts

The only President of either party who reduced wars in the middle east instead of expanding them over the last four decades was Trump, and Democrats hated him

 

[Rigby5]

Ilhan Omar Justified Attacks on Israel and Condemned Defenses Against Them

You might think that America's politicians would be supportive to Israelis, given the situation. Some have been. But when it comes to the progressive left, the messaging has been astonishing.

www.google.com

Opinion | Hamas Tests Israel—and Biden

Iran’s Palestinian ally reignites its conflict with the Jewish state.

www.google.com

Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts

Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.

Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)

First of all, the Palestinians did NOT "misbehave" like you claim, since the rockets had to be fired in retaliation for the Zionist attacks and murders on the Temple Mount and home confiscations.
Second is that we only give the Palestinians $200 million a year, not even enough to cover the cost of garbage collection, compared to the $5 billion we give Israel annually. And that $200 million is required by treaties going back to Reagan, Carter, Bush and Clinton.
You have to give it by US law.
It is not optional.

You fire thousands of rockets over a small disturbance at the Temple Mount and a handful of home confiscations that have been in dispute for decades? Who does that? Yet you claim the Palestinians HAD to fire them? That's a crock. They fired them because they wanted to fire them and were looking for an excuse to do so.

There is no dispute.
The Israelis have no jurisdiction and there are no legal claims involved.
Israel simply have systematically been stealing millions of Arab homes for over 70 years, and since they can't just murder the Arabs like they used to, they now are using kangaroo courts as a smoke screen.

It was not a small disturbance at the Temple Mount, there was an attempt at intimidation through murder, at the most sacred and important place to all Palestinians.
And by the way, no one has any clue in the least where either Temple of Solomon may ever have been, but very unlikely anywhere near the Temple Mount.

The Israelis can have peace any time, just by following the law, get out of Palestinian territory, and return all the homes stolen from Moslems inside Israel.
(There are more than 1 million Moslem homes stolen inside Israel.)

It is ONLY Israel that is in violation of the law and constantly committing crimes.

 

[irosie91]

Poor, needy JoeB...You are fully aware that The NT is sending you to the Eternal Lake of Fire.
But, then again, you never read it, did you?

Did you know Hebrew has no word for love?
The word means to give.
When you show Brown people your concern, don't love them, give to them.

Yes, the NT felt that just blaming God for all the natural catastrophes like the OT did wasn't going to fly with people who could actually read. So they needed to up the ante to keep the money flowing.

Christians are idiots
Jews are idiots
Muslims are idiots.

Anyone who thinks there's a magic fairy in the sky is an idiot.

Muslims are the least of the idiots.
Unlike the greed and fear of the Old and New Testaments, Islam has a much greater purpose.
Since government could not be trusted back then, Islam was the second attempt at putting government institutions into religion, so they would be permanent.
The Ancient Egyptians started that idea.
They gave the priesthood control over granaries, seed storage, food production, taking care of widows and orphans, etc.
Islam did even more of the same.
Instead of the corrupt government getting taxes, the more trustworthy priests in the Mosques got the weekly tithing.
This allowed the priests to take care of gran storage, widows and orphans, etc., and is the whole start of the social welfare system we understand we need these days.

I am not saying religion is the best way to conduct social services or that we need it any more, but considering the corrupt governments of ancient times, it was revolutionary and incredibly humane. It was the whole origin of the idea of individuals having value and rights in a growing impersonalized urban life. It was the start of civilization. Instead of just 10 commandments, the Quran covers almost every practical problem and choice that is likely to come up, and it always stresses that "God is merciful" or "God is forgiving", so it always stresses the least violent solution to any problem. The only problem with the Quran is that it was advice for a war time society, so it is way too strict for me.

With all due respect, Rigby...the "priests" in this discussion are the Mullahs and they aren't spending money on "grain" they're spending it on terror!

For God's sake Bibi has been threatening Iran since 1996.

Oh gee----poor ayatoilets. I missed the "bibi" threats-----what did "bibi" say to the
ayatoilet that galvanized his murderous machinations in Syria, Afghanistan, Lebanon,
Yemen------and----well ---even Teheran. For those interested----talk to people who
have fled Iran------since the 1960s -----Interestingly the 1960s sorta precedes the
ayatoilets-----but the fact is that the INFLOW into the USA was created by the stench of islamization in the air-----detected by the relatively sophisticated people of Teheran

 

[Oldestyle]

Ilhan Omar Justified Attacks on Israel and Condemned Defenses Against Them

You might think that America's politicians would be supportive to Israelis, given the situation. Some have been. But when it comes to the progressive left, the messaging has been astonishing.

www.google.com

Opinion | Hamas Tests Israel—and Biden

Iran’s Palestinian ally reignites its conflict with the Jewish state.

www.google.com

Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts

Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.

Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)

First of all, the Palestinians did NOT "misbehave" like you claim, since the rockets had to be fired in retaliation for the Zionist attacks and murders on the Temple Mount and home confiscations.
Second is that we only give the Palestinians $200 million a year, not even enough to cover the cost of garbage collection, compared to the $5 billion we give Israel annually. And that $200 million is required by treaties going back to Reagan, Carter, Bush and Clinton.
You have to give it by US law.
It is not optional.

I believe Trump was referring to the 370 million we give to the UN fund that provides assistance to Palestinian "refugees". THAT is totally optional.

And how does that compare with 5 billion a year for 8 million Jews?

Israel is our ally in the Middle East. Palestine is not. Duh?

 

[Oldestyle]

Ilhan Omar Justified Attacks on Israel and Condemned Defenses Against Them

You might think that America's politicians would be supportive to Israelis, given the situation. Some have been. But when it comes to the progressive left, the messaging has been astonishing.

www.google.com

Opinion | Hamas Tests Israel—and Biden

Iran’s Palestinian ally reignites its conflict with the Jewish state.

www.google.com

Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts

Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.

Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)

First of all, the Palestinians did NOT "misbehave" like you claim, since the rockets had to be fired in retaliation for the Zionist attacks and murders on the Temple Mount and home confiscations.
Second is that we only give the Palestinians $200 million a year, not even enough to cover the cost of garbage collection, compared to the $5 billion we give Israel annually. And that $200 million is required by treaties going back to Reagan, Carter, Bush and Clinton.
You have to give it by US law.
It is not optional.

You fire thousands of rockets over a small disturbance at the Temple Mount and a handful of home confiscations that have been in dispute for decades? Who does that? Yet you claim the Palestinians HAD to fire them? That's a crock. They fired them because they wanted to fire them and were looking for an excuse to do so.

There is no dispute.
The Israelis have no jurisdiction and there are no legal claims involved.
Israel simply have systematically been stealing millions of Arab homes for over 70 years, and since they can't just murder the Arabs like they used to, they now are using kangaroo courts as a smoke screen.

It was not a small disturbance at the Temple Mount, there was an attempt at intimidation through murder, at the most sacred and important place to all Palestinians.
And by the way, no one has any clue in the least where either Temple of Solomon may ever have been, but very unlikely anywhere near the Temple Mount.

The Israelis can have peace any time, just by following the law, get out of Palestinian territory, and return all the homes stolen from Moslems inside Israel.
(There are more than 1 million Moslem homes stolen inside Israel.)

It is ONLY Israel that is in violation of the law and constantly committing crimes.

You think Israel can have peace by giving things to Moslems? How has that worked out in the past, Rigby?

 

[surada]

Ilhan Omar Justified Attacks on Israel and Condemned Defenses Against Them

You might think that America's politicians would be supportive to Israelis, given the situation. Some have been. But when it comes to the progressive left, the messaging has been astonishing.

www.google.com

Opinion | Hamas Tests Israel—and Biden

Iran’s Palestinian ally reignites its conflict with the Jewish state.

www.google.com

Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts

Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.

Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)

First of all, the Palestinians did NOT "misbehave" like you claim, since the rockets had to be fired in retaliation for the Zionist attacks and murders on the Temple Mount and home confiscations.
Second is that we only give the Palestinians $200 million a year, not even enough to cover the cost of garbage collection, compared to the $5 billion we give Israel annually. And that $200 million is required by treaties going back to Reagan, Carter, Bush and Clinton.
You have to give it by US law.
It is not optional.

I believe Trump was referring to the 370 million we give to the UN fund that provides assistance to Palestinian "refugees". THAT is totally optional.

And how does that compare with 5 billion a year for 8 million Jews?

Israel is our ally in the Middle East. Palestine is not. Duh?

That's not true.. Saudi Arabia has been a US ally since the late 1930s and we don't give them foreign aid for 70 years.. Further, the state never straffed the USS Liberty.

Israel has betrayed the US many times.. Eisenhower, Reagan, LBJ... They betrayed them all more than once.

 

[irosie91]

Ilhan Omar Justified Attacks on Israel and Condemned Defenses Against Them

You might think that America's politicians would be supportive to Israelis, given the situation. Some have been. But when it comes to the progressive left, the messaging has been astonishing.

www.google.com

Opinion | Hamas Tests Israel—and Biden

Iran’s Palestinian ally reignites its conflict with the Jewish state.

www.google.com

Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts

Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.

Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)

First of all, the Palestinians did NOT "misbehave" like you claim, since the rockets had to be fired in retaliation for the Zionist attacks and murders on the Temple Mount and home confiscations.
Second is that we only give the Palestinians $200 million a year, not even enough to cover the cost of garbage collection, compared to the $5 billion we give Israel annually. And that $200 million is required by treaties going back to Reagan, Carter, Bush and Clinton.
You have to give it by US law.
It is not optional.

You fire thousands of rockets over a small disturbance at the Temple Mount and a handful of home confiscations that have been in dispute for decades? Who does that? Yet you claim the Palestinians HAD to fire them? That's a crock. They fired them because they wanted to fire them and were looking for an excuse to do so.

There is no dispute.
The Israelis have no jurisdiction and there are no legal claims involved.
Israel simply have systematically been stealing millions of Arab homes for over 70 years, and since they can't just murder the Arabs like they used to, they now are using kangaroo courts as a smoke screen.

It was not a small disturbance at the Temple Mount, there was an attempt at intimidation through murder, at the most sacred and important place to all Palestinians.
And by the way, no one has any clue in the least where either Temple of Solomon may ever have been, but very unlikely anywhere near the Temple Mount.

The Israelis can have peace any time, just by following the law, get out of Palestinian territory, and return all the homes stolen from Moslems inside Israel.
(There are more than 1 million Moslem homes stolen inside Israel.)

It is ONLY Israel that is in violation of the law and constantly committing crimes.

ROFLMAO------you have the islamo-nazi history MEMORIZED ---by the way, Do you
still pray for the glorious soul of ALOIS BRUNNER-----now up there in Jannah with
his bevy of virgin houris?

 

[surada]

Ilhan Omar Justified Attacks on Israel and Condemned Defenses Against Them

You might think that America's politicians would be supportive to Israelis, given the situation. Some have been. But when it comes to the progressive left, the messaging has been astonishing.

www.google.com

Opinion | Hamas Tests Israel—and Biden

Iran’s Palestinian ally reignites its conflict with the Jewish state.

www.google.com

Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts

Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.

Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)

First of all, the Palestinians did NOT "misbehave" like you claim, since the rockets had to be fired in retaliation for the Zionist attacks and murders on the Temple Mount and home confiscations.
Second is that we only give the Palestinians $200 million a year, not even enough to cover the cost of garbage collection, compared to the $5 billion we give Israel annually. And that $200 million is required by treaties going back to Reagan, Carter, Bush and Clinton.
You have to give it by US law.
It is not optional.

You fire thousands of rockets over a small disturbance at the Temple Mount and a handful of home confiscations that have been in dispute for decades? Who does that? Yet you claim the Palestinians HAD to fire them? That's a crock. They fired them because they wanted to fire them and were looking for an excuse to do so.

There is no dispute.
The Israelis have no jurisdiction and there are no legal claims involved.
Israel simply have systematically been stealing millions of Arab homes for over 70 years, and since they can't just murder the Arabs like they used to, they now are using kangaroo courts as a smoke screen.

It was not a small disturbance at the Temple Mount, there was an attempt at intimidation through murder, at the most sacred and important place to all Palestinians.
And by the way, no one has any clue in the least where either Temple of Solomon may ever have been, but very unlikely anywhere near the Temple Mount.

The Israelis can have peace any time, just by following the law, get out of Palestinian territory, and return all the homes stolen from Moslems inside Israel.
(There are more than 1 million Moslem homes stolen inside Israel.)

It is ONLY Israel that is in violation of the law and constantly committing crimes.

You think Israel can have peace by giving things to Moslems? How has that worked out in the past, Rigby?

Israel has NEVER given anything to the Muslims. NEVER.

 

[kaz]

You fire thousands of rockets over a small disturbance at the Temple Mount and a handful of home confiscations that have been in dispute for decades? Who does that? Yet you claim the Palestinians HAD to fire them? That's a crock. They fired them because they wanted to fire them and were looking for an excuse to do so.

There is no dispute.
The Israelis have no jurisdiction and there are no legal claims involved.
Israel simply have systematically been stealing millions of Arab homes for over 70 years, and since they can't just murder the Arabs like they used to, they now are using kangaroo courts as a smoke screen.

It was not a small disturbance at the Temple Mount, there was an attempt at intimidation through murder, at the most sacred and important place to all Palestinians.
And by the way, no one has any clue in the least where either Temple of Solomon may ever have been, but very unlikely anywhere near the Temple Mount.

The Israelis can have peace any time, just by following the law, get out of Palestinian territory, and return all the homes stolen from Moslems inside Israel.
(There are more than 1 million Moslem homes stolen inside Israel.)

It is ONLY Israel that is in violation of the law and constantly committing crimes.

You think Israel can have peace by giving things to Moslems? How has that worked out in the past, Rigby?

Rigby5 is just upset that Jews can fight back now when someone tries to murder them. He just wishes the Nazis would come back to finish the job.

The left is so sick and they can't even see it. Defending yourself from terrorists shooting missiles into civilian neighborhoods is a "violation of the law." Rigby is one sick fuck

 

[kaz]

There is no dispute.
The Israelis have no jurisdiction and there are no legal claims involved.
Israel simply have systematically been stealing millions of Arab homes for over 70 years, and since they can't just murder the Arabs like they used to, they now are using kangaroo courts as a smoke screen.

It was not a small disturbance at the Temple Mount, there was an attempt at intimidation through murder, at the most sacred and important place to all Palestinians.
And by the way, no one has any clue in the least where either Temple of Solomon may ever have been, but very unlikely anywhere near the Temple Mount.

The Israelis can have peace any time, just by following the law, get out of Palestinian territory, and return all the homes stolen from Moslems inside Israel.
(There are more than 1 million Moslem homes stolen inside Israel.)

It is ONLY Israel that is in violation of the law and constantly committing crimes.

You think Israel can have peace by giving things to Moslems? How has that worked out in the past, Rigby?

Israel has NEVER given anything to the Muslims. NEVER.

I don't now what you mean by "given." But then you don't either.

But Israel has tried every combination with the Palestinians and only gotten terror for it.

Historically BTW most of Palestine pre-Israel was in Jordan. Much of it still is. The Palestinians were terrorists then too murdering Jordanians. The Jordanians did way more than Israel, they kept getting sick of it and slaughtering Palestinians to make them stop. They didn't just target the terrorists like Israel does. Difference was your kind didn't care then, you just hate Jews