I appreciate that your response was an upgrade...no mention of statements not proven like I'm a Facebook reader etc. That's a pet peeve and yet there's not much I can do about it. Any poster who wants to state most anything about people is fair game. I support that fair game, until it becomes unfair.
So, back to the particulars. Interesting that was the study you referenced, yet not matching our "take".
Here are a few commonalties that are remaining constant over the evolution of this virus that are continuing to be measured and evaluated:
1. Natural immunity to SARS-Cov-2 is superior to being vaccinated (with one of the current options) that doesn't stop the spread, doesn't contain the spread, nor does it do anything to reduce the numbers other than possibly reducing the severity. Time will iron out how much suppression actually occurred...AI will figure it out, not a human.
About half of the adult U.S. population will have obesity and about a quarter will have severe obesity by 2030.
www.hsph.harvard.edu
2. There are SPECIFIC health risks known that lead to death, primarily due to comorbidities playing the determining factor. I posted a source documenting the risks, but a quick run-down includes, #1. Obesity. Within the US, this has been a major hurdle for health care practitioners who want the best for their patients. Top deaths from or with covid-obesity to the tune of around 50% of all cases. Another, diabetes usually found in most people who are obesely overweight. Some people unfortunately are at the mercy of genetics. Some others are not. There are multiple comorbidities that have been identified with covid deaths, but the main one stems from BMI being over the medical weight guidelines. Anyone who is in a high risk group needs to consult with a good doctor for preventative strategies. This might include the suggestion of the current vaccine, but let's hope they don't go around anyone during the days that person is contagious (2-4 depending on source) shedding the Delta.
Identifying patient characteristics and conditions associated with mortality with COVID-19 is important for hypothesis generating for clinical trials and to develop targeted intervention strategies.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
THAT is what is crazy imo...why promote a vaccine known to increase likelihood of exposure to a variant? You broke it down differently, but the fact remains that a person who has been vaxed is MORE likely to contract the variant...and until I learn differently I'll assume likely for another variant as well..maybe Mu..time will soon tell unfortunately.
I continue to stand by my statement that people who've been "vaxed" are more likely to contract a variant. My example of two people standing next to a person shedding a variant-Delta in this case, would most likely expose the vaxed person and not the unvaxed person. Could both be exposed? Sure, but it's more likely the vaxed one gets it, due to the protein spike training. That has a few unknowns you do realize? Even pro-scientists interviewed have stated when asked where exactly do the molecules wind up...they look around before answering (I've seen at least 3 experts do that, but they remained honest) saying "Well, in the muscle tissue...most staying in the local area of injection". Asked again in different wording, including questions about the spikes breaking due to the lipid factor holding it all together (quite the discovery I might add, although not good enough imo) as at least one research scientist interviewed said, "Well, yes, the lipids hold it together, but the unknown is mostly about how long it holds". This is not from Facebook. If you want a source I'll provide one.
Look, you don't know me from Eve, and I don't know you from Adam, but since you can't know that I don't post information until I have at least 2 scientific or medical studies to back it up. One thing I don't do is lie or ever try to persuade anyone of anything so important like health decisions, unless I have ample evidence. This is an individual decision as it should be, and for anyone to even suggest that the current messenger RNA vehicle is a "one size fits all" hasn't done their research.
This has been a learning curve for many people. Scientists, doctors, research teams are still learning. This was, although bad enough, a test. Hopefully, unlike past poor decisions that were made (hospitals not stocking up-what a blunder) the next test will not contain the futile efforts of our government's reactionary stance based on a few drug companies telling them what the solution is without a mention of utilizing Tier 2 of an emergency pandemic plan. They skipped Tier 2 altogether, as if it weren't important to educated the public and utilize effective home care measures. What they wound up with was numerous people rushing to the hospital, including those who did not have symptoms behind the common cold, but rushed anyway out of pure fear. That worked against everything, and was avoidable. The press is to blame for a lot of it, but I've learned to not expect much from domestic media sources, certainly not the national news sources.
So, an major issue that turned sour instantly when it became a political issue. Fauci was the worst person to lead anything...you do know his history with the Wuhan lab, yes? Another source needed perhaps. Let me know I can post undisputed evidence about his financial dealings and track record with working on infected bats, gain of function considered by him to be worth it fully. Reality shows shyster Fauci needs to retire.
I wanted to add that my husband had Pfizer jabs. In no way do I wish anything but positive outcomes for all who accepted one of these "solutions" but he has said a booster in 6 months must have meant they gave useless doses. He is way more understanding than I am, more of the mindset that "They are playing a game, and we have to play it". My response? No, we really don't without factual data supporting it.
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