Biden Trump Israel Hamas Deal: Attention People who leap to judgments very quickly. Israel Got Pressured Not Hama

I've said before, Trump will do anything to make a deal. Pressuring Israel to accept what they previously would not seems to be the Trump way.

So, Attention all of you People who leap to judgments very quickly. Looks like it was Israel that Got Pressured, Not Hamas. Just so Trump could brag. Biden went along on the way out, as Biden's team had been pressuring Israel forever.

What we actually know so far...

The New York Times, citing a person familiar with the negotiations, reported that Trump’s Middle East envoy, Steve Witkoff, helped put pressure on Netanyahu earlier in the week, which may have urged the Israeli premier to approve the compromises necessary to end the war. A diplomat briefed on the ceasefire negotiations seemed to second that interpretation, telling The Washington Post that Trump’s team placed “real pressure” on Israeli negotiators to take yes for an answer.​
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dante you put up your HS grad picture....
To compete with your High School Year Book photo with cation?


YES

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Yes. Not everyone is shooting from the lip like you always are


What we actually know so far...


The New York Times, citing a person familiar with the negotiations, reported that Trump’s Middle East envoy, Steve Witkoff, helped put pressure on Netanyahu earlier in the week, which may have urged the Israeli premier to approve the compromises necessary to end the war. A diplomat briefed on the ceasefire negotiations seemed to second that interpretation, telling The Washington Post that Trump’s team placed “real pressure” on Israeli negotiators to take yes for an answer.

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Yes. Not everyone is shooting from the lip like you always are


What we actually know so far...


The New York Times, citing a person familiar with the negotiations, reported that Trump’s Middle East envoy, Steve Witkoff, helped put pressure on Netanyahu earlier in the week, which may have urged the Israeli premier to approve the compromises necessary to end the war. A diplomat briefed on the ceasefire negotiations seemed to second that interpretation, telling The Washington Post that Trump’s team placed “real pressure” on Israeli negotiators to take yes for an answer.

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No doubt you’re very upset the genocide might be over. Too bad Kamala lost, because the slaughter would have continued had she won, and you’d be so happy. Yet you claim you’re a MAGAt. Crazy!!!!!!!

Like most Americans (not you), I applaud the recent ceasefire agreement between Israel and Hamas that was approved today by the Israeli security cabinet, and I was glad to learn that the incoming Trump administration was directly involved in support of the Biden team in the most positive way: by telling Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that a deal had to be made.

I did not like much of the Biden administration’s foreign policy, and I worried a lot, as a journalist and a citizen, about what Donald Trump’s new team would do. But I learned long ago that you cannot tell a presidency by its cover. - Jewish Seymour Hersh.
In other word, you didn't understand the question.
 
You can't deprive them of military aid, Trump wants to play act and pretend he's into saving money but he won't interfere with the the US socialist support for Israel, he is powerless.

Who's going to stop them? That's all the Israelis have been doing since 1948. They're already forcing West Bank Palestinians out of their homes, they already started to build settlements in Golan.

That's not true, many of Trump's picks are rabid Zionists who share th dream of Israel more than any dream they have about the United States. Even if Trump doesn't care there are plenty of people close to him who care very much.
I know you have a hard time with reality.

President Trump is against dumb wars and wants peace in the ME. Not dumb wars that our Zionist neocons want because they think it will benefit “Israel”.

On the other hand President Trump doesn’t hate Israel and is willing to treat them as allies. Not everyone is a rabid hater of Israel and wants to see them destroyed by the Muslims.
 
Because it's imposed upon every American citizen by big government. Rather than leaving this to charities this is singled out and there's nothing we can do about it. It's woke.

You want to send money to the Israelis go right ahead.

The very thing trumpanzees whine about when people talk of big government financing the nation's health care.
You have a problem with Ukraine? I do.
 
Hitler was the aggressor
Bibi is retaliating

Nope, they were both taking land that doesn't belong to them, and killing the people who live there. You are like abused children who've grown up to abuse someone else.

Glad you admit you openly hate Jews.

Antisemitism 101

Hey, it's not my fault your religion has messed up values.
 
Nope, they were both taking land that doesn't belong to them, and killing the people who live there. You are like abused children who've grown up to abuse someone else.



Hey, it's not my fault your religion has messed up values.
Israel is the size of NJ. Hitler wanted all of Europe. You truly are a Jew hating fat dumbass.
 
Israel is the size of NJ. Hitler wanted all of Europe. You truly are a Jew hating fat dumbass.

The problem is, Israel didn't exist until a bunch of European Squatters stole PALESTINE from the Palestinians.

Genocide is Genocide, no matter how big the region involved.

As an aside, Hitler hardly wanted "All of Europe". he was perfectly willing to carve it up along with his allies. He was also perfectly willing to leave the British Empire in peace so he could concentrate on crushing Russia, but Churchill was too damned stubborn to stop the war. (I don't say that as a criticism, just an observation.)
 
The problem is, Israel didn't exist until a bunch of European Squatters stole PALESTINE from the Palestinians.

Genocide is Genocide, no matter how big the region involved.

As an aside, Hitler hardly wanted "All of Europe". he was perfectly willing to carve it up along with his allies. He was also perfectly willing to leave the British Empire in peace so he could concentrate on crushing Russia, but Churchill was too damned stubborn to stop the war. (I don't say that as a criticism, just an observation.)
Palestine never existed. GB gave Israel to the Jews after taking it from the Ottoman Empire post WWI. He knew GB would declare war if he went in Poland and he did it anyway and then the moron started a two front war and declared war on America post Pearl Harbor. Truly a dumbass.
 
Palestine never existed. GB gave Israel to the Jews after taking it from the Ottoman Empire post WWI.

The British Empire had no business giving away someone else's land. The ONLY reason why the British were able to take it from the Ottomans to start with was the Arabs, instead of heeding the call to Jihad from the Caliph/Ottoman Sultan, instead revolted on the promise of getting their own countries. Instead, the British started dumping Europe's unwanted Jews into the place.


He knew GB would declare war if he went in Poland and he did it anyway and then the moron started a two front war and declared war on America post Pearl Harbor. Truly a dumbass.

Well, actually, not so much. The British were foolish to write the Polish Colonels a blank check. They should have just told the Poles to return Silesia and Danzig, which were properly German, anyway. Instead, Hitler threw in With Stalin, made short work of Poland, and turned his attention west.

In the end, the UK was on the winning side, but their Empire was mortally wounded.
 
The British Empire had no business giving away someone else's land. The ONLY reason why the British were able to take it from the Ottomans to start with was the Arabs, instead of heeding the call to Jihad from the Caliph/Ottoman Sultan, instead revolted on the promise of getting their own countries. Instead, the British started dumping Europe's unwanted Jews into the place.




Well, actually, not so much. The British were foolish to write the Polish Colonels a blank check. They should have just told the Poles to return Silesia and Danzig, which were properly German, anyway. Instead, Hitler threw in With Stalin, made short work of Poland, and turned his attention west.

In the end, the UK was on the winning side, but their Empire was mortally wounded.
It was their land. It’s called conquest. To the winner go the spoils. Now you know more than the British govt. you’re an embarrassment
 
The British Empire had no business giving away someone else's land. The ONLY reason why the British were able to take it from the Ottomans to start with was the Arabs, instead of heeding the call to Jihad from the Caliph/Ottoman Sultan, instead revolted on the promise of getting their own countries. Instead, the British started dumping Europe's unwanted Jews into the place.




Well, actually, not so much. The British were foolish to write the Polish Colonels a blank check. They should have just told the Poles to return Silesia and Danzig, which were properly German, anyway. Instead, Hitler threw in With Stalin, made short work of Poland, and turned his attention west.

In the end, the UK was on the winning side, but their Empire was mortally wounded.
Why is it “their land” you’re so dumb it hurts.
 
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It was their land. It’s called conquest. To the winner go the spoils. Now you know more than the British govt. you’re an embarrassment

So by your logic, when the day comes when the Arabs drive the Zionists out of Palestine, you'll be fine with that, right?

Oh, **** no, you'll be insisting our government go do something about that.

Why is it “their land” you’re so dumb it hurts.

I'm sure I hurt you all the time...

But let's be blunt. The Palestinians lived there for hundreds of years. The Empire Names changed (British, Ottoman, Ayubbid, Malmukes) but the people remained the same

The Zionists, on the other hand, are a bunch of Europeans who couldn't co-exist with their fellow Europeans. And until Hitler did his thing, most of them had no real interest in returning to Palestine.
 
So by your logic, when the day comes when the Arabs drive the Zionists out of Palestine, you'll be fine with that, right?

Oh, **** no, you'll be insisting our government go do something about that.



I'm sure I hurt you all the time...

But let's be blunt. The Palestinians lived there for hundreds of years. The Empire Names changed (British, Ottoman, Ayubbid, Malmukes) but the people remained the same

The Zionists, on the other hand, are a bunch of Europeans who couldn't co-exist with their fellow Europeans. And until Hitler did his thing, most of them had no real interest in returning to Palestine.
100% let em fight it out. Instead you cry “genocide” like a little wimp. Are you going to tattle again or debate like a man? British cigarette. Islam is a plague when radicalized.
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100% let em fight it out. Instead you cry “genocide” like a little wimp. Are you going to tattle again or debate like a man? British cigarette. Islam is a plague when radicalized.

Gee, the Bible is just as bad, isn't it?


Stone to death your family and friends if they encourage you to worship another god.​

If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die. Deuteronomy 13:6-10

Stone to death those who have religious beliefs that are different from your own.​

If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel: Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. Deuteronomy 17:2-5

If a city has people who believe in other gods, kill everyone in that city​

If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying, Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. Deuteronomy 13:12-15

Kill anyone who refuses to believe in the God of Israel.​

Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. 2 Chronicles 15:13

Disbelievers are damned.​

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Mark 16:16

Children who refuse to obey their parents must be executed.​

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. Deuteronomy 21:18-21
He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. Exodus 21:15
He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. Exodus 21:17
Children who mock their parents will have their eyes plucked out by ravens and eaten by eagles.

The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it out, and the young eagles shall eat it. Proverbs 30:17

Like Abraham, parents should be willing to kill their children for God.​

And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and ... offer him there for a burnt offering.... And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son. Genesis 22:2,10

God killed all the firstborn children in an entire country.​

The LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon.... And there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead. Exodus 12:29-30

Sometimes God kills children for misbehaving.​

And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. 2 Kings 2:23-24

Someday God will force parents eat their own children.​

And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat. Leviticus 26:29
And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters. -- Deuteronomy 28:53
And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend. Jeremiah 19:9

And then there's this statement, which could only be found in the Bible:​

Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. Psalm 137:9
 

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Gee, the Bible is just as bad, isn't it?


Stone to death your family and friends if they encourage you to worship another god.​


Stone to death those who have religious beliefs that are different from your own.​


If a city has people who believe in other gods, kill everyone in that city​


Kill anyone who refuses to believe in the God of Israel.​


Disbelievers are damned.​



Children who refuse to obey their parents must be executed.​


Children who mock their parents will have their eyes plucked out by ravens and eaten by eagles.


Like Abraham, parents should be willing to kill their children for God.​


God killed all the firstborn children in an entire country.​


Sometimes God kills children for misbehaving.​


Someday God will force parents eat their own children.​


And then there's this statement, which could only be found in the Bible:​

Except we have separation of church and state. The Bible doesn’t rule our laws. In Islam there is no separation. I did not even read your copy and pastes. You lost another debate. You’re really bad at this.
 
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