Biden Stepping Down Looms Near Certainty

[Failzero]

My guess is Sunday Morning EST ( early)

 

[Darkwind]

The Democrats have demonstrated in spades that they care about only the laws they can use to their advantage. They pretty much ignore all the others.

When a bloodied but unbeaten Trump shouted, "Fight!" on stage, he won the election.

 

[WelfareQueen]

What if Biden refuses to go? How do they get rid of him? An open Dim Convention insurrection would be very, very ugly.

 

[Godboy]

The Democrats have demonstrated in spades that they care about only the laws they can use to their advantage. They pretty much ignore all the others.

But it takes more time to do that then they have. They are a couple weeks away from picking the candidate, and there isnt a court case about this yet, so its too late to use lawfare.

 

[task0778]

Let's be clear about a couple of things. First, Biden may drop out of the presidential election race which doesn't mean he is resigning from the presidency. Unless he really is that ill, I can see him finishing his presidency but it's looking like somebody else will be the democrat nominee. Bear in mind, if he resigns from the presidency then Kamala assumes the office and she does not get to appoint somebody to be the VP. She has to nominate that person, who must be confirmed in the Senate, and I think that requires 60 votes, which the GOP might not support. Cuz the new VP would have the tie-breaking vote in the Senate and I don't see the GOP allowing that.

Second, it's his choice to stay in the race or not. If he says I'm still running then he's still running. IOW, nobody can force him out. I suspect he is kept very insulated from public opinion, and he might not know how much of a joke he is outside the White House. I think they've been telling him all along how strong he is and how he's needed by the country, and now they're going to tell him he's gotta step down from the election?

Third, if Biden drops out of the race before the convention, then the democratic convention becomes a wide-open, brokered convention where deals will be made to support somebody over another somebody. IOW, chaotic as hell. We might wanna have some cold beverage and popcorn ready for this one. And BTW the Bidens do not like Kamala Harris at all, so there might be some negotiation to keep her out of the democrat nomination process.

 

[Foxfyre]

Let's be clear about a couple of things. First, Biden may drop out of the presidential election race which doesn't mean he is resigning from the presidency. Unless he really is that ill, I can see him finishing his presidency but it's looking like somebody else will be the democrat nominee. Bear in mind, if he resigns from the presidency then Kamala assumes the office and she does not get to appoint somebody to be the VP. She has to nominate that person, who must be confirmed in the Senate, and I think that requires 60 votes, which the GOP might not support. Cuz the new VP would have the tie-breaking vote in the Senate and I don't see the GOP allowing that.

Second, it's his choice to stay in the race or not. If he says I'm still running then he's still running. IOW, nobody can force him out. I suspect he is kept very insulated from public opinion, and he might not know how much of a joke he is outside the White House. I think they've been telling him all along how strong he is and how he's needed by the country, and now they're going to tell him he's gotta step down from the election?

Third, if Biden drops out of the race before the convention, then the democratic convention becomes a wide-open, brokered convention where deals will be made to support somebody over another somebody. IOW, chaotic as hell. We might wanna have some cold beverage and popcorn ready for this one. And BTW the Bidens do not like Kamala Harris at all, so there might be some negotiation to keep her out of the democrat nomination process.

I'm not convinced they don't have ways to 'encourage' him to say anything they want him to say if it comes to that. Maybe even to 'encourage' him to resign as President though you're right that he can remove himself from the ballot and still complete his term of office.

 

[Freedomisneverfree]

Biden will be stepping down this weekend

 

[Foxfyre]

But it takes more time to do that then they have. They are a couple weeks away from picking the candidate, and there isnt a court case about this yet, so its too late to use lawfare.

Well we'll see. When it comes to dirty tricks and manipulation of the law, however cruelly and maliciously that is done, I have seen no parallel to this current crop of deep state Democrats. They have taken the end justifies the means to a level I never though possible in the USA until the last four years.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

I have never seen either party go through a three-week period like this, and it's likely historic. Just when it couldn't get worse, it does with the attempt on Trump's life, which has now ended up making Trump look like the newest edition to Marvel Comic's stable of superheroes. It's been truly breathtaking.

 

[Independent thinker]

Top insiders are now leaking that Biden is set to step down as soon as tomorrow; his party has abandoned him, big donors are falling by the wayside, and all indicators are that if Joe does not get out of the way, the democrats could lose the election and take a shellacking in November. All that remains now is to work out the details of his replacement--- Kamala Harris and her VP.

And the failed assassination of Trump leaving him defiant in his iconic fist-pump with blood on his face under the flag has only accelerated that need.

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/18/president-biden-drop-out-election-democrats

Isn't it ironic if true? In 2019 during the early democrat primaries, Harris DROPPED OUT first as the least popular and least funded democrat of all, who was also a staunch opponent of Biden.

Sen. Kamala Harris drops out of 2020 presidential race

The California Democrat, who had announced her bid for the White House in January, said she doesn't have the money to continue.

www.nbcnews.com

How sad that the democrat's once least popular candidate has now become their best hope to replace their once (just three years ago) most popular president ever.

By Monday morning Biden will no longer be the nominee. And when Harris loses to Trump, Biden will be saying it is all the democrats fault.

 

[task0778]

I'm not convinced they don't have ways to 'encourage' him to say anything they want him to say if it comes to that.

No doubt that is true about most things, but pulling out of the race after he's been adamant about staying might be a hard sell. Yeah, if he's feeling physically poorly then it might be easier to convince him to quit. But he ran from his basement the last time, so I don't know. I'm sure he listens to Jill and Obama though and if they say you should quit then he probably will. They'll tell him it's for the good of the party and the country and it's the patriotic thing to do. IMHO, he ain't that much of a fighter, especially at his age and if he doesn't have plenty of support.

Maybe even to 'encourage' him to resign as President though you're right that he can remove himself from the ballot and still complete his term of office.

I don't think there's any love lost between Biden and Harris, and I don't think he wants her to finish out his term in office. Again, if he's in really bad shape physically, then he might resign but otherwise I don't see him leaving office early.

 

[Calypso Jones]

Oh really? Biden Team says he's back on the campaign trail next week.
Now...let's see...biden was overwhelmingly chosen as their candidate..when? just weeks ago...SO strong that no one ran or was allowed to run against him. He can say that he is the overwhelming favorite and a bunch of rich donors and political elites are trying to deny him his shot at re-election. Now whachu think they gonna do....have the SS do an assassination attempt on Biden? Question is...can they make it look legitimate at this point?

 

[ozro]

Keep democracy Joe in the race! Don't listen to the haters Joe. Stay in the race!

 

[Foxfyre]

The reports I've heard are that ALL donations to Biden have been frozen.

It won't matter, however. The American people won't be giving the Presidency to the party that is okay with the assassination attempt of a political opponent.

I can't imagine ANY circumstance in which I would donate, but how can they keep me from donating to Biden's campaign?

 

[Darkwind]

I can't imagine ANY circumstance in which I would donate, but how can they keep me from donating to Biden's campaign?

Actually, I think they were speaking about the mega donors.

 

[Foxfyre]

Actually, I think they were speaking about the mega donors.

Probably but it was the word 'frozen' I think that made me wonder as it had the implication that folks couldn't donate to Biden if they wanted to as the money would be prevented from getting to his campaign. That would bother me because if they can do that to him, they can do that to anybody.

 

[Darkwind]

Probably but it was the word 'frozen' I think that made me wonder as it had the implication that folks couldn't donate to Biden if they wanted to as the money would be prevented from getting to his campaign. That would bother me because if they can do that to him, they can do that to anybody.

Far more interesting is that the Democrats have raised a ton of money since Harris was endorsed by Biden, by that organization that accepts donations from would-be Presidential assassins.

If you get time, give this article a read.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/democrats-raise-staggering-sum-of-money-after-kamala-harris-launches-campaign?topStoryPosition=5