Biden Lead Down To 2% Biden 49%-Trump 47% Zogby/EMI Poll Taken After President Checks Into Walter Reed

Lucy Hamilton

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The 2016 Election Popular Vote was Hillary 48.6% Trump 46.1%

This Zogby Poll just released is the second poll that is showing Joe Biden's lead below 3%, I posted the other poll in a thread the other night that was the IBD/TIPP Poll that has Joe Biden on 48.6% and The Donald on 45.9%

The significance of this poll is that it was taken on Friday night AFTER The Donald was taken to Walter Reed Hospital, like the other poll I posted the other night it also obviously was taken AFTER the Debate.

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Okay so let's look into the poll some more:

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^^^^ My initial thoughts about the above numbers, a few striking things appear:

I. The Donald has at LEAST 34% of Hispanics saying they are going to vote for him. II. The Donald has at LEAST 11% of Blacks saying they are going to vote for him and both these numbers are actually pretty good with relation to the Electoral College Vote. Since the 2016 Election The Donald has increased his support with Hispanics and his vote with Blacks has remained largely the same.

As of now The Donald is winning 51%-46% with Roman Catholics and 68%-32% with Evangelicals and 54%-40% with parents with children under the age of 17 living at home, so The Donald has a 14% lead in this poll with YOUNG FAMILIES.

To me the below is the most INTERESTING part of the poll:


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Joe Biden and The Donald are both at 44% with Independents. In my opinion The Donald needs NOT to play so much to his Base now, because they will vote him already, he needs to play towards that 12% of Undecided Independents, he doesn't NEED all 12%, he needs approx 5% of them.

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The above two Dr. Jo Jorgensen and Howie Hawkins will get a percentage of the vote, just like what happened in 2016 with Gary Johnson and Jill Stein and again with this counted in Joe Biden's lead is still 2% against The Donald, something very like what happened with Hillary vs The Donald.

 
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The 2016 Election Popular Vote was Hillary 48.6% Trump 46.1%

This Zogby Poll just released is the second poll that is showing Joe Biden's lead below 3%, I posted the other poll in a thread the other night that was the IBD/TIPP Poll that has Joe Biden on 48.6% and The Donald on 45.9%

The significance of this poll is that it was taken on Friday night AFTER The Donald was taken to Walter Reed Hospital, like the other poll I posted the other night it also obviously was taken AFTER the Debate.

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Okay so let's look into the poll some more:

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^^^^ My initial thoughts about the above numbers, a few striking things appear:

I. The Donald has at LEAST 34% of Hispanics saying they are going to vote for him. II. The Donald has at LEAST 11% of Blacks saying they are going to vote for him and both these numbers are actually pretty good with relation to the Electoral College Vote. Since the 2016 Election The Donald has increased his support with Hispanics and his vote with Blacks has remained largely the same.

As of now The Donald is winning 51%-46% with Roman Catholics and 68%-32% with Evangelicals and 54%-40% with parents with children under the age of 17 living at home, so The Donald has a 14% lead in this poll with YOUNG FAMILIES.

To me the below is the most INTERESTING part of the poll:


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Joe Biden and The Donald are both at 44% with Independents. In my opinion The Donald needs NOT to play so much to his Base now, because they will vote him already, he needs to play towards that 12% of Undecided Independents, he doesn't NEED all 12%, he needs approx 5% of them.

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The above two Dr. Jo Jorgensen and Howie Hawkins will get a percentage of the vote, just like what happened in 2016 with Gary Johnson and Jill Stein and again with this counted in Joe Biden's lead is still 2% against The Donald, something very like what happened with Hillary vs The Donald.

But the Democrat cheat factor gives Biden an extra 4 points.
 
The 2016 Election Popular Vote was Hillary 48.6% Trump 46.1%

This Zogby Poll just released is the second poll that is showing Joe Biden's lead below 3%, I posted the other poll in a thread the other night that was the IBD/TIPP Poll that has Joe Biden on 48.6% and The Donald on 45.9%

The significance of this poll is that it was taken on Friday night AFTER The Donald was taken to Walter Reed Hospital, like the other poll I posted the other night it also obviously was taken AFTER the Debate.

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Okay so let's look into the poll some more:

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^^^^ My initial thoughts about the above numbers, a few striking things appear:

I. The Donald has at LEAST 34% of Hispanics saying they are going to vote for him. II. The Donald has at LEAST 11% of Blacks saying they are going to vote for him and both these numbers are actually pretty good with relation to the Electoral College Vote. Since the 2016 Election The Donald has increased his support with Hispanics and his vote with Blacks has remained largely the same.

As of now The Donald is winning 51%-46% with Roman Catholics and 68%-32% with Evangelicals and 54%-40% with parents with children under the age of 17 living at home, so The Donald has a 14% lead in this poll with YOUNG FAMILIES.

To me the below is the most INTERESTING part of the poll:


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Joe Biden and The Donald are both at 44% with Independents. In my opinion The Donald needs NOT to play so much to his Base now, because they will vote him already, he needs to play towards that 12% of Undecided Independents, he doesn't NEED all 12%, he needs approx 5% of them.

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The above two Dr. Jo Jorgensen and Howie Hawkins will get a percentage of the vote, just like what happened in 2016 with Gary Johnson and Jill Stein and again with this counted in Joe Biden's lead is still 2% against The Donald, something very like what happened with Hillary vs The Donald.

As 'great' as Trumptards claim Trump is why isn't he 20 pts, AHEAD at this point??
 
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Remember Nate "I get things wrong" Silver and FiveThirtyEight in 2016:

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They did actually get Hillary's Popular Vote number NEARLY CORRECT, it's just FiveThirtyEight got EVERYTHING else WRONG:

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Yes. He also correctly called 2018, 2014, and 2012. I believe he called every single election in 2012 correctly.

You, like many Trump worshippers, fail to understand the nature of polling.
 
Sorry in 2016 FiveThirtyEight got things VERY wrong in regard to the Electoral College Vote, and it's THAT how the American Elections are decided.

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Here's some 2016 Election States from FiveThirtyEight and how wildly inaccurate they were in 2016:

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Sorry in 2016 FiveThirtyEight got things VERY wrong in regard to the Electoral College Vote, and it's THAT how the American Elections are decided.

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Here's some 2016 Election States from FiveThirtyEight and how wildly inaccurate they were in 2016:

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So why are you posting one single poll?

If polls are wrong, why did you make a thread about one?

I don't think you understand math and probabilities.
 
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Remember Nate "I get things wrong" Silver and FiveThirtyEight in 2016:

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They did actually get Hillary's Popular Vote number NEARLY CORRECT, it's just FiveThirtyEight got EVERYTHING else WRONG:

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Yes. He also correctly called 2018, 2014, and 2012. I believe he called every single election in 2012 correctly.

You, like many Trump worshippers, fail to understand the nature of polling.

Are you related to Nate Silver or something? But no actually his record in 2016 and how CHRONIC it was in the Electoral College stands, nobody cares about the other stuff, he said in 2016 Hillary would win the Electoral College in a landslide and she did not he also said she would win Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida and North Carolina by HUGE MARGINS and she did not.
 
The Republicans have won college-educated whites in every election since polling began. Trump won them by 5% in 2016.

He is trailing by ~15% in that cohort.

FiveThirtyEight was wrong in 2016. That stands.
 
Here's what happened in 2016.

Pollsters over-estimated college-educated voters and under-estimated non-college educated voters. Why? Because college-educated voters were more likely to answer their phones than non-college educated voters.

So pollsters have adjusted for this.

They've also started polling more at the state level.

For example, at this time in 2016, there had been 20 polls in Wisconsin. There have been 48 this year. And there are many more polling firms now than then.
 

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