Biblical truth has been branded as hate

[Moonglow]

Care to retract that statement? First thing that popped up on a google search.

Pride Groups - Just Like Us.

It's about time they had more than religious clubs.Ro you get the door to door religions coming to yer house or a Pride group ?

 

[Hafar1014]

I would disagree with this thought.

It's not religious people being involved in government that makes it a theocracy.

It's religious people trying to shape government to impose their religion on others that moves it toward a theocracy.

WW

Give an example because leftism is in fact a religion doing just that

 

[martybegan]

It's about time they had more than religious clubs.

Dude, the proper way to goalpost move is at least 3 back and forth posts.

you are slipping.

 

[SweetTea]

We are not a theocracy. And don't pretend the MAGA blowhards don't hate, literally hate, gays and transgender people. The goal of MAGAs like Charlie Kirk is to deny equal rights to everyone. His and your rhetoric is no different than the segregationists of the past.

There is absolutely nothing Christian about MAGAs who worship an unrepentant serial adulterer who steals from the elderly and cancer kids and bears false witness against others on a daily basis.

There is absolutely nothing even remotely Christian about MAGAs.

We don’t worship him, we just recognize that despite all his faults, he is light years better than anything the militant, anti-religious, Socialists, Godless left-wing nuts have to offer.

 

[Moonglow]

Dude, the proper way to goalpost move is at least 3 back and forth posts.

you are slipping.

Religion never did much fer students anyway.

 

[Moonglow]

We don’t worship him, we just recognize that despite all his faults, he is light years better than anything the militant, anti-religious, Socialists, Godless left-wing nuts have to offer.

Religious people are no better than non-religious folks.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Translation - it is OK when Israel attacks and murders Americans

just equivocate...

No, it's not ok. All countries have/are doing it.

 

[OldFlame]

I would disagree with this thought.

It's not religious people being involved in government that makes it a theocracy.

It's religious people trying to shape government to impose their religion on others that moves it toward a theocracy.

WW

So how do you distinguish between 'Christian morals' and 'secular morals'? You're saying one is okay to be codified in government and law and forced upon people, but the other is not?

Let's take murder, 'Thou shalt not kill', doesn't that make every US government, from local to federal, a theocracy?

 

[OldFlame]

Any trying to inflict moral beliefs. Does that include trans genders who insist we call them by their pronouns? That men have a right to play in men’s sports? Like marriage is between a man and a man and a woman and woman?

I personally don’t care who one marries, if you think you are the opposite sex, that your rights are more important, just leave me out of your moral beliefs because they may or may not be mine.

Exactly, it's okay for them to 'inflict' their 'morals', funny how that works. All you have to do is say they're not based on religion and now you can tell everyone how they must live.

 

[LibertyKid]

So how do you distinguish between 'Christian morals' and 'secular morals'? You're saying one is okay to be codified in government and law and forced upon people, but the other is not?

Let's take murder, 'Thou shalt not kill', doesn't that make every US government, from local to federal, a theocracy?

So the argument here is what establishes morality? Can a society deem what is moral outside of religion? Yes, but what then becomes the concern is that morality can then become subjective. Religion tries to make morality black and white, where societal morality can and does turn to subjectivity but can closely resemble religious morality.

One thing that Kirk always tried to do is explain his belief system outside of religious morality/dogma. I can respect that even though I don't agree with Charlie's approach to Biblical hermeneutics, evangelical, westernized perspective.

But, yes, we should be able to define morality through various means of philosophy, deontology, consequentialism, and Humanism.

 

[OldFlame]

Those were volunteers. Everyone else has to be forced or lose their jobs.

Jimmy Kimmel did not mourn and he was fired. Vance went on social media and ordered the MAGA cult to report anyone else who does not show the proper remorseful deportment about Kirk's death.

Got it now, moron?

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You're such a ******* whacko...

 

[OldFlame]

Nope. You’re too crass and hateful to waste time on.

Bingo! His ego is one of the biggest ones on here, it's hilarious to watch him blather. lol

 

[MagicMike]

The reason laws are passed doesn't matter. There are secular reasons for things like banning abortion.

What do you imagine are some "secular" reasons for making laws that restrict women's bodily autonomy and reduce them to little more than breeding livestock?
There aren't any. Forcing laws onto women's bodies is all about religious Christian Taliban control.
That's it.

And guess what? According to our Constitution if you can get supermajorities to overturn the 1st amendment, you CAN get a Religion declared the official religion.

And yet the whole Pride thing is forced on people in government schools.

The only thing "forced" on public schools is that it is illegal to bully and discriminate against others based upon sexual orientation.
Nobody is forcing people to be gay. You just have to leave others who are gay alone. Live and let live.
What is so hard about that?

 

[martybegan]

What do you imagine are some "secular" reasons for making laws that restrict women's bodily autonomy and reduce them to little more than breeding livestock?
There aren't any. Forcing laws onto women's bodies is all about religious Christian Taliban control.
That's it.



The only thing "forced" on public schools is that it is illegal to bully and discriminate against others based upon sexual orientation.
Nobody is forcing people to be gay. You just have to leave others who are gay alone. Live and let live.
What is so hard about that?

Denying something the right to exist?

Actually it's about the responsibility of results for a consensual willing act.

Kids celebrate Pride every june in public schools. That isn't tolerance, that is forced acceptance.

 

[MagicMike]

Give an example because leftism is in fact a religion doing just that

How is what you call "leftism" a religion? It's not even a real word.

 

[cnm]

Oh. Say Mac: did every single person who voted for Trump become automatically "immoral"?

Only those who thought grabbing women by the ***** was immoral.

 

[Lisa558]

Only those who thought grabbing women by the ***** was immoral.

He said they allowed it. That’s consent.

Did the aide that Biden fingered while he held her against the wall consent? Did the one that Clinton sexually assaulted in the hotel consent?

You Democrats are such hypocrites.

 

[22lcidw]

If Charlie Kirk was trying to point people to God's word, he would have been employed full time turning them away from Donald Trump. Adultery, theft, false witness, whoremongering, gambling houses, covetousness, lies, greed, and most of all unrepentance.

Kirk was a HUGE hypocrite, as is all of MAGA's fake Christianity.

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This is why I would work for a dictatorship culling the populations to recued taxation for the all-powerful government. And it is you that foments this type of government into power. Progs will destroy economies for their agendas.

 

[cnm]

How are they inflicting Christianity on the people?

Insisting the ten guidelines that MAGAts don't require in their cult leader are displayed in schools.

 

[OldFlame]

So the argument here is what establishes morality? Can a society deem what is moral outside of religion? Yes, but what then becomes the concern is that morality can then become subjective. Religion tries to make morality black and white, where societal morality can and does turn to subjectivity but can closely resemble religious morality.

One thing that Kirk always tried to do is explain his belief system outside of religious morality/dogma. I can respect that even though I don't agree with Charlie's approach to Biblical hermeneutics, evangelical, westernized perspective.

But, yes, we should be able to define morality through various means of philosophy, deontology, consequentialism, and Humanism.

We should be able to use our religious beliefs as well since they are part of what establishes morality. No one is forced to worship anything, in any way, which is what a theocracy does.