Bibi is at it again ...

[Neser Boha]

An interesting article from the Economist.

Diplomacy between Israel and Palestine: Bluff and bargain | The Economist

CALL my bluff, says Israel’s prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, as he tries to persuade the world’s leaders, and through them the Palestinians, that his recent promise to freeze the building of Jewish settlements on the West Bank is genuine, albeit admittedly temporary and partial. He knows he has a reputation as a bluffer. In a speech on November 29th he referred to “stereotypes” that were responsible for giving him that handicap in diplomacy.

A few days later, on December 1st, he reinforced those stereotypes when he told his “brothers and sisters the settlers” that building would resume as soon as the ten-month suspension was over. Officials hint that the go-ahead for such a resumption would be given only if no negotiations had begun by then. So if the Palestinians agreed to come back to the long-stalled peace talks, it would be hard, perhaps impossible, for Israel to resume settlement building. “They reject Bibi’s freeze because it’s temporary,” says an Israeli official. “Why don't they test him by agreeing to a temporary resumption of talks?”


So far, the Palestinians have refused to budge from their insistence that a freeze must be total. They also note, bleakly, the Israeli interior ministry's recent admission that it had revoked the residency rights of 4,577 Arabs in East Jerusalem last year, the highest annual figure ever. And they cite a European Union report accusing Israel of trying to shift Jerusalem's demographic balance drastically against the Arabs.

Please read the remainder of the article on the link I provided above.

All of Israel's settlement activities are illegal. That should be the end of the story. How come that Netanyahu is able to use an illegal activity as a leverage in negotiations?

Boggles the mind.

Your views?

 

[The Rabbi]

Nothing illegal about them. Israel conquered the territory. What about all those French building homes in German Alsace-Lorraine? Those Czechs in the Sudetenland?
Anyway, the Palis are in no position to insist on anything. They are the sick men of the Middle East. They have no functioning government, no one who can negotiate in good faith. The article is correct in that Bibi's moves are aimed at the West, not at the Palestinians.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel has never "won" that land. The war Israel started with Palestine in 1947 has never ended. No one has won anything yet.

 

[The Rabbi]

Israel has never "won" that land. The war Israel started with Palestine in 1947 has never ended. No one has won anything yet.

Wow first post and I've already pegged you a a moron.
Israel could not start a war with Palestine. Israel is Palestine.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel has never "won" that land. The war Israel started with Palestine in 1947 has never ended. No one has won anything yet.

Wow first post and I've already pegged you a a moron.
Israel could not start a war with Palestine. Israel is Palestine.

You can peg what you want. I will just consider the source. About 300,000 Palestinians were ethnically cleansed by the soon to be declared Israel before there was any attack by the Arab countries. Who was Israel attacking? The 1948 war came and went but there was no end to the 1947 war. Look in the news. It is still there and Israel is still demanding surrender.

 

[The Rabbi]

The facts are not your friends here. Teh Arabs deserted the place, assured by their brethren they would come back behind their triumphant armies.
Didn't quite turn out that way.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The facts are not your friends here. Teh Arabs deserted the place, assured by their brethren they would come back behind their triumphant armies.
Didn't quite turn out that way.

There may have been a little of that but most were run out at the point of a gun.

 

[The Rabbi]

It was mostly that.
The rest are refugees who ought to be taken in by their Arab brothers in, e.g Jordan. The fact that the Arabs are leaving them in squalid camps for generations speaks volumes about how they feel.

 

[Shogun]

You'll have to forgive our little zionist buddy. He and his three jewish stooges support all things jewish, right or wrong, 24/7/365 and you'll come to know exactly what kind of antisemite jooo hater you are the very second you don't roll over and agree with them like a good goyim should.


Talking with The Rabbi, Ghook, Rhodes Scholar and The Cock Stucker is like trying to debate a good german about their beloved furor in 1940.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It was mostly that.
The rest are refugees who ought to be taken in by their Arab brothers in, e.g Jordan. The fact that the Arabs are leaving them in squalid camps for generations speaks volumes about how they feel.

Why should they go to Jordan when they have deeds to houses in Jaffa?

 

[The Rabbi]

It was mostly that.
The rest are refugees who ought to be taken in by their Arab brothers in, e.g Jordan. The fact that the Arabs are leaving them in squalid camps for generations speaks volumes about how they feel.

Why should they go to Jordan when they have deeds to houses in Jaffa?

There are Germans with deeds to houses in Sudetenland. There are Jews with deeds to houses in Warsaw.
So what? Losers don't make the rules.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It was mostly that.
The rest are refugees who ought to be taken in by their Arab brothers in, e.g Jordan. The fact that the Arabs are leaving them in squalid camps for generations speaks volumes about how they feel.

Why should they go to Jordan when they have deeds to houses in Jaffa?

There are Germans with deeds to houses in Sudetenland. There are Jews with deeds to houses in Warsaw.
So what? Losers don't make the rules.

The Palestinians have not lost yet. Israel is still trying to get them to disarm and surrender.

 

[Shogun]

It was mostly that.
The rest are refugees who ought to be taken in by their Arab brothers in, e.g Jordan. The fact that the Arabs are leaving them in squalid camps for generations speaks volumes about how they feel.

Why should they go to Jordan when they have deeds to houses in Jaffa?

There are Germans with deeds to houses in Sudetenland. There are Jews with deeds to houses in Warsaw.
So what? Losers don't make the rules.

as if JEWS DON'T pepper Warsaw! AND, are given total equality to any non-jew pole, for that matter.




Indeed, if a land deed were taken from a jew in Warsaw we'd see EXACTLY what crying holocaust looks like... meanwhile, The Rabbi supports the kind of ethnic purging in israel that he'd never go for if Poland acted similarly to purge itself of jews.


another day, the world turns, and zionist jews illustrate the purest form of irony.

 

[The Rabbi]

Why should they go to Jordan when they have deeds to houses in Jaffa?

There are Germans with deeds to houses in Sudetenland. There are Jews with deeds to houses in Warsaw.
So what? Losers don't make the rules.

The Palestinians have not lost yet. Israel is still trying to get them to disarm and surrender.

The Palestinians are being kept in operation by Arab, EU, and U.S. money. If it were not for that, they would have been banished to the other side of civilization a long time ago.

 

[Shogun]

and, the same can be said about israel being propped up by America. big fucking deal. Now, did you want to remind us how your kind would react if Poland purged jews from Warsaw on par with your ironic quest in israel?

 

[P F Tinmore]

There are Germans with deeds to houses in Sudetenland. There are Jews with deeds to houses in Warsaw.

Irrelevant.

 

[The Rabbi]

Irrelevant.

Only in your mind.
Perhaps you should read more instead of tin more?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Only in your mind.
Perhaps you should read more instead of tin more?

OK, but what is the relevance?

 

[jillian]

Please read the remainder of the article on the link I provided above.

All of Israel's settlement activities are illegal. That should be the end of the story. How come that Netanyahu is able to use an illegal activity as a leverage in negotiations?

Boggles the mind.

Your views?

what boggles the mind is people thinking that israel should give in BEFORE negotiations. last i heard, that's not how it works.

and maybe the pals should have taken the deal when they were offered 98% of what they asked for.

the problem here, nesser, is that you're applying your own sensibilities to terrorists. you think they want a state. many palestinians do. their leaders couldn't care less.... their sole purpose is to try to get rid of israel.

now, maybe after you arrive at that understanding, it's easier to assess netanyahu's actions. (and i'm not saying that because i agree with everything he does.).

 

[jillian]

You'll have to forgive our little zionist buddy. He and his three jewish stooges support all things jewish, right or wrong, 24/7/365 and you'll come to know exactly what kind of antisemite jooo hater you are the very second you don't roll over and agree with them like a good goyim should.


Talking with The Rabbi, Ghook, Rhodes Scholar and The Cock Stucker is like trying to debate a good german about their beloved furor in 1940.

actually, that's more like debating you.... well, if you can call anti-jewish slurs, debate.

sorry, you're on the wrong side, david.