Better to hang a Millstone around his neck than to harm a child

[Book of Jeremiah]

It is written:

Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!
It would be better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

Take heed unto yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him, and if he repent, forgive him. And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent, thou shalt forgive him. - Luke 17: 1- 4

It is probably the most natural thing in the world for any child to believe in God unless they have been misled or harmed by someone they trusted. Jesus used a small child as an example of one that should not be harmed. I believe when someone harms a child there is a very serious judgment for such a one. Children should never be harmed. Yet in this teaching Jesus is actually teaching about offenses. Because when a person is offended it is very difficult thing sometimes to overcome. Depending upon what it is - it could stay with them their entire life!

Therefore we should be mindful of what we are doing in regards to our behavior toward others and before others and especially toward & before children! As adults, we set the example and children are very impressionable. It is a good thing to keep in mind that we cannot hide from the eyes of God. He is always watching everything. He sees everything that we do.

Luke 17 2 It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble.

Cross References
Matthew 17:27
"But so that we may not cause offense, go to the lake and throw out your line. Take the first fish you catch; open its mouth and you will find a four-drachma coin. Take it and give it to them for my tax and yours."
Matthew 18:6
"If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
Mark 9:42
"If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them if a large millstone were hung around their neck and they were thrown into the sea
1 Corinthians 8:12
When you sin against them in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Another instance of how Christians pick n choose from their Bibles only the convenient parts while ignoring the inconvenient parts.

Kill Brats

From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)

3) Murdering Children



Kill Sons of Sinners

Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)



God Will Kill Children

The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered." O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children." (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)



Kill Men, Women, and Children

"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)



God Kills all the First Born of Egypt

And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. (Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)



Kill Old Men and Young Women

"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)

(Note that after God promises the Israelites a victory against Babylon, the Israelites actually get their butts kicked by them in the next chapter. So much for an all-knowing and all-powerful God.)



God Will Kill the Children of Sinners

If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)



More Rape and Baby Killing

Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Child slavery is permitted too,

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)

So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children.

David's Punishment - Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God's "Forgiveness" (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)



Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'

Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." [The child dies seven days later.]


It goes on and on.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Have you ever heard of the saying, the Lady doth protest too much? It isn't just women, Delta. Take note.

Accusing God in order to disannul His judgments and condemn Him is merely an attempt to justify yourself. It won't work. See Job 40: 8

The cure for a guilty conscience is to repent. That is the only cure.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

It is written:

Hebrews 4 12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit joints and marrow it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

Isaiah 49:2
He made my mouth like a sharpened sword, in the shadow of his hand he hid me; he made me into a polished arrow and concealed me in his quiver.

Jeremiah 23:29
"Is not my word like fire," declares the LORD, "and like a hammer that breaks a rock in pieces?

John 12:48
There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Have you ever heard of the saying, the Lady doth protest too much? It isn't just women, Delta. Take note.

Accusing God in order to disannul His judgments and condemn Him is merely an attempt to justify yourself. It won't work. See Job 40: 8

The cure for a guilty conscience is to repent. That is the only cure.

Um yes I've heard it, it's from Hamlet.

I don't believe in God. Or rather, not as you do. I'm simply keeping you honest pointing out the parts of the Bible you either don't know about, or ignore when it's convenient, but utilize when it helps you make a point, like if you wanna condemn homosexuality say quoting Leviticus, but ignoring the other parts of Leviticus if it says killing children's ok. As with,

God Will Kill the Children of Sinners

If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

God isn't interested in what you believe. It does not change Who He is, What His Word Says, what He does one iota. Got it?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

This is the Word of the LORD:

Proverbs 29 1 Whoever remains stiff-necked after many rebukes will suddenly be destroyed--without remedy.

Parallel Commentaries
Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

29:1 If God wounds, who can heal? The word of God warns all to flee from the wrath to come, to the hope set before us in Jesus Christ. 2. The people have cause to rejoice or mourn, as their rulers are righteous or wicked. 3. Divine wisdom best keeps us from ruinous lusts. 4. The Lord Jesus is the King who will minister true judgment to the people. 5. Flatterers put men off their guard, which betrays them into foolish conduct. 6. Transgressions always end in vexations. Righteous men walk at liberty, and walk in safety. 7. This verse is applicable to compassion for the distress of the poor, and the unfeeling disregard shown by the wicked. 8. The scornful mock at things sacred and serious. Men who promote religion, which is true wisdom, turn away the wrath of God. 9. If a wise man dispute with a conceited wrangler, he will be treated with anger or ridicule; and no good is done. 10. Christ told his disciples that they should be hated of all men. The just, whom the blood-thirsty hate, gladly do any thing for their salvation.
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What is the Word of the LORD in Proverbs 29:1? Repent or you will be suddenly destroyed.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Have you ever heard of the saying, the Lady doth protest too much? It isn't just women, Delta. Take note.

Accusing God in order to disannul His judgments and condemn Him is merely an attempt to justify yourself. It won't work. See Job 40: 8

The cure for a guilty conscience is to repent. That is the only cure.

Um yes I've heard it, it's from Hamlet.

I don't believe in God. Or rather, not as you do. I'm simply keeping you honest pointing out the parts of the Bible you either don't know about, or ignore when it's convenient, but utilize when it helps you make a point, like if you wanna condemn homosexuality say quoting Leviticus, but ignoring the other parts of Leviticus if it says killing children's ok. As with,

God Will Kill the Children of Sinners

If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

Wrong answer and yet? ...... still more protesting ! - What is the meaning of - The Lady doth protest too much - give me yahoo answers for 500 Alex ! ! !

What does the phrase Methinks the lady doth protest too much mean please

Best Answer

answered 5 years ago
It's from the play Hamlet. Hamlet shouts it about his mother as she interjects loudly when she sees a play that looks very similar to the way her husband (Hamlet's father) was killed. The idea is when someone adamantly denies, mocks, or gets upset by something that perhaps they share whatever it is they are upset about. Many racist people are the most adamant to comment against racism for example.
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Best answer? Hmmm.... let's see if we can get a little more clarity here.....hold on!

Maybe this one?

The lady doth protest too much me thinks what does this mean

Best Answer
it means the lady is denying something so adamantly that she appears to be hiding something.

ex:
"lady, did you drink my juice?"

"no i did NOT! i would never do that! it must have been someone else, i don't even Like juice!

answered 6 years ago

• It's a quote from Hamlet. By constantly and fiercely claiming to be innocent, the character makes herself look very guilty.
• answered 6 years ago

She is denying the murder with too much "gusto" not to be guilty.
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I think all three answered this pretty well. How about you, Delta? You think they did a fairly good job of explaing the meaning of, The lady doth prostest too much? I think best answer wins the prize. One who does it must be hiding something. Wouldn't you agree?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Since you like Shakespeare so much,
The Complete Works of William Shakespeare

Best Shakespeare site I've seen since you can display everything onto 1 page which makes looking up lines so much easier than clicking through a dozen or more acts.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I do not care for Shakespeare all that much. He lost me with a rose by any other name.... just as he lost Michael Boldea Jr. on that... you see there is only one rose - the Rose of Sharon - which is Jesus Christ - the most beautiful rose of all - and there is only one name for this Rose of Sharon - Jesus Christ - so you can keep Shakespeare and all your protests too because I'm not buying it, Delta. You're not nearly as clever as you think you are and your sick game is over.

As in - it come to an end. Today.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Ya right, I'm so ACK ..sure...GASP weeeeeze!

(thud)

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Ya right, I'm so ACK ..sure...GASP weeeeeze!

(thud)

Such drama! Perhaps Shakespeare would call this your "last performance"?

Getting back on topic here, when Jesus said, If you looked upon a woman with lust in your heart you already commited adultery with her, I would believe that would also mean if someone looked upon any type of pornography and lusted in their heart - they would be guilty of having comitted the act - even child pornography - it would be the same thing as having done it - this would apply even if the individual did not believe the Words of Jesus, you understand. Which is why someone buying such material, sharing it, viewing it would also be harming a child in my belief which is what the OP is concerning - that the scope of that scripture is far greater than one would first perhaps understand. Which is why it is always good to expound upon scripture. Because even in the old testament scriptures - we find nowhere that God does condone such things.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Such drama! Perhaps Shakespeare would call this your "last performance"?

Getting back on topic here, when Jesus said, If you looked upon a woman with lust in your heart you already commited adultery with her, I would believe that would also mean if someone looked upon any type of pornography and lusted in their heart - they would be guilty of having comitted the act - even child pornography - it would be the same thing as having done it - this would apply even if the individual did not believe the Words of Jesus, you understand. Which is why someone buying such material, sharing it, viewing it would also be harming a child in my belief which is what the OP is concerning - that the scope of that scripture is far greater than one would first perhaps understand. Which is why it is always good to expound upon scripture. Because even in the old testament scriptures - we find nowhere that God does condone such things.

Musta missed the stuff in your OP about porn. Odd, usually that leaps out at me. Other than that you're correct. Porn would be the same as imagining without porn. Conjuring a mental image in both instances and both cause that particular sin.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Such drama! Perhaps Shakespeare would call this your "last performance"?

Getting back on topic here, when Jesus said, If you looked upon a woman with lust in your heart you already commited adultery with her, I would believe that would also mean if someone looked upon any type of pornography and lusted in their heart - they would be guilty of having comitted the act - even child pornography - it would be the same thing as having done it - this would apply even if the individual did not believe the Words of Jesus, you understand. Which is why someone buying such material, sharing it, viewing it would also be harming a child in my belief which is what the OP is concerning - that the scope of that scripture is far greater than one would first perhaps understand. Which is why it is always good to expound upon scripture. Because even in the old testament scriptures - we find nowhere that God does condone such things.

Musta missed the stuff in your OP about porn. Odd, usually that leaps out at me. Other than that you're correct. Porn would be the same as imagining without porn. Conjuring a mental image in both instances and both cause that particular sin.

Well, I am surprised that the correlation didn't leap out at you. Considering that the child sex trafficking industry is a multi billion dollar business - it does leap out at me. It is indeed harmful and when I think of Jesus warning not to harm a child my first thought is do them no physical harm, do them no emotional harm, do not ever harm their faith in God - those are three things that come to my mind when I consider that warning from Jesus Christ.

Mark 9 42 If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble it would be better for them if a large millstone were hung around their neck and they were thrown into the sea.

Temptations and Trespasses
42"Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe to stumble, it would be better for him if, with a heavy millstone hung around his neck, he had been cast into the sea. 43"If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life crippled, than, having your two hands, to go into hell, into the unquenchable fire,…
Cross References
Matthew 17:27
"But so that we may not cause offense, go to the lake and throw out your line. Take the first fish you catch; open its mouth and you will find a four-drachma coin. Take it and give it to them for my tax and yours."

Matthew 18:6
"If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

Luke 17:2
It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble.

1 Corinthians 8:12
When you sin against them in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ.
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I'm glad to hear that you agree with the Word of God that to sin in your heart is the same thing as committing the act. Or as you put it, to conjure something up in your mind is the same as committing the act. The Beatitudes actually holds us to a much higher standard than the Law did which is why Jesus said, I didn't come to do away with the law, I have come to fulfill it. The law is fufilled in the believer but what hope do those outside of Christ have? Because you and I already discussed once that no one is capable of keeping the law! So if you are still under the law? You are under a curse according to Scripture. Christ is the new covenant, Delta. The Law is the Old Covenant.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Not thinking about sex if reading Scriptures. Maybe that's the problem...

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Either that or you do not find it to be a sin. That would indicate a reprobate mind according to Romans 1.

Romans 1 28 Furthermore just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God so God gave them over to a depraved mind so that they do what ought not to be done.

Context
God's Wrath against Sin

Cross References

Genesis 6:5
The LORD saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time.

2 Samuel 22:27
to the pure you show yourself pure, but to the devious you show yourself shrewd.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Moving on here with the teaching of Jesus about harming little ones there is another category - the elderly. We are to honor our elderly. When an elderly person enters the room we are to stand up. Does this generation know that God does expect us to honor our elderly? Does this generation know that if they are working at a nursing home they should do their work unto God - take care of that elderly person in your care as if it were your own mother or father? It is the truth. Someone taking care of the elderly will answer to Jesus in what kind of care they provided. Did you let them finish everything on their plate or did you dump their food half done into the trash because they ate too slowly and you lacked the patience to wait for them? You will go to hell for such a thing.

I was visiting a nursing home where such things were taking place. The LORD showed it to me. I knew. These people were going to hell. They should get a job cleaning floors or windows or anything that would not require them to care for human beings who are helpless such as children in a daycare or the elderly in nursing homes.

I had to give a hard word to the director of that nursing home. I told him, I know that you will do the right thing because Jesus said it would be better for someone to hang a millstone around their neck and cast themselves into the sea than to harm one of these little ones and the elderly are the children that were in his care! I was very detailed and specific in what I saw wrong. So that he could fix it. Or else.

The fear of God came over him so greatly I was told later he called a meeting with all his workers and said no one had better be mistreating the Jewish tenants of that facility or be biast against them. Some were fired immediately if I recall correctly. I told him about the abuse that was happening to a Jewish woman I had come to find out about! An 80 yr plus little doll that won my heart in a single day! I told her family about it as I wanted to make sure they took her out of there. If they had not taken her I was ready to take her home with me! For free! I told the LORD I would be happy to take care of her! She was very sharp and a lovely person. She played piano quite well too! As the saying goes, it made my blood boil to learn of her being treated roughly! Later on I called the ADL too!

I was in rare form that day. I am quite sure the Director never forgot our little talk. Which was wisdom on his part. Nothing bothers me more than an elderly person being mistreated. Or a child. I will pray until God does something about it!

Well that is all for me tonight. Goodnight.