Best potus since Washington?

[BluesLegend]

Trump is historic because in this modern age, he's the first president in 100 years that isn't bought and paid for by the special interests AND isn't in it to line his own pockets like the Clintons, Obamas and Bidens. Thus, Trump is free to actually represent the American people.

The Washington SWAMP absolutely hates this.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

We'll see. Trump's the best in my lifetime.

After Trump, followed by Reagan, we may have some disagreement.

Admittedly it's kind of a battle of the least evil at that point.

But if Dubya is your third, that's where we part ways.

 

[rightwinger]

What makes a great President is …

What challenges did you face and what did you do in the face of those challenges?

By far, Lincoln and FDR were the best

 

[BluesLegend]

When have multiple Dem presidential candidates defected and joined the Republican presidential candidate, then after he won joined his cabinet? BOOM like a BOSS!

 

[The Duke]

After Trump, followed by Reagan, we may have some disagreement.

Admittedly it's kind of a battle of the least evil at that point.

But if Dubya is your third, that's where we part ways.

Teddy, Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, Nixon was good.
Nixon was 100x better than any recent Democrats.
No Bushes for me, Bubba.
I've seen old newspaper things and what they say and what they do are different.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

What makes a great President is …

What challenges did you face and what did you do in the face of those challenges?

By far, Lincoln and FDR were the best

According to conventional history, yes.

According to highly credible alternative takes, maybe not.

The challenges cannot be denied.

The responses?

YMMV.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Teddy, Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, Nixon was good.
Nixon was 100x better than any recent Democrats.
No Bushes for me, Bubba.

I was talking in our lifetimes.

You set the predicate brother.

 

[BluesLegend]

What makes a great President is …

What challenges did you face and what did you do in the face of those challenges?

By far, Lincoln and FDR were the best

WTF? How many Americans did Lincoln and FDR KILL in wars? That's failure not leadership.

 

[The Duke]

I was talking in our lifetimes.

You set the predicate brother.

Oh, in my lifetime it's Trump.

 

[BluesLegend]

Teddy, Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, Nixon was good.
Nixon was 100x better than any recent Democrats.
No Bushes for me, Bubba.
I've seen old newspaper things and what they say and what they do are different.

The two Bushes were no different than the Clintons, Obamas and Bidens they were in it for the money. ALL sold out American workers and businesses to foreign countries.

 

[rightwinger]

WTF? How many Americans did Lincoln and FDR KILL in wars? That's failure not leadership.

No Presidents faced the Challenges that Lincoln and FDR faced

Lincoln saved our country
FDR saved the world

 

[RhodyPatriot]

WTF? How many Americans did Lincoln and FDR KILL in wars? That's failure not leadership.

I don't know if I'd characterize either of them as failures.

Far from it.

But the shiny sheen they're gussied up with by conventional history is often far more complicated, and at times even problematic when you check under the hood.

 

[BluesLegend]

Teddy, Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, Nixon was good.
Nixon was 100x better than any recent Democrats.
No Bushes for me, Bubba.
I've seen old newspaper things and what they say and what they do are different.

Truman was the only leader with the guts to NUKE some MF'ers to save an estimated 1 million American soldiers. All the wars since would have been reduced 95% if we were willing to drop a few nukes on these murderous assholes that get out of line.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Oh, in my lifetime it's Trump.

Yeah, and then Reagan.

After that is where we may (or may not) part ways.

Nonetheless, it's an interesting conversation.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

WTF? How many Americans did Lincoln and FDR KILL in wars? That's failure not leadership.

intersting how leftists praise Lincoln for defeating leftists

 

[jwoodie]

Lincoln saved our country
FDR saved the world

Lincoln saved his Presidency
FDR saved Communism

 

[mamooth]

I've always wondered....

Wait.

Are you saying that Trump didn't crash the economy in 2020, and that he's not crashing the economy now?

I'm just wondering how far the senility has progressed.

Or maybe it's that thing where you deliberately humiliate yourself by saying crazy things, to show how loyal to TheParty you are.

Or maybe you're just blubbering at me out of butthurt again.

Yeah, it's the last one. I live rent-free in the butthurt minds of so many Trump cultists

 

[The Duke]

Wait.

Are you saying that Trump didn't crash the economy in 2020, and that he's not crashing the economy now?

I'm just wondering how far the senility has progressed.

Or maybe it's that thing where you deliberately humiliate yourself by saying crazy things, to show how loyal to TheParty you are.

Or maybe you're just blubbering at me out of butthurt again.

Yeah, it's the last one. I live rent-free in the butthurt minds of so many Trump cultists

What do you think? No, Democrat governors shut everything down to tank the economy.

 

[BluesLegend]

I don't know if I'd characterize either of them as failures.

Far from it.

But the shiny sheen they're gussied up with by conventional history is often far more complicated, and at times even problematic when you check under the hood.

Things like the FUBAR operation Market Garden fiasco come to mind. The attack on Pearl Harbor fiasco. Fire bombing German women and children long after Germany was beaten and ready to surrender.

Now Japan the unrepentant rat bastards needed to be taught a lesson and got a couple atomic bombs shoved up their ass before they figured out who won!

Lincoln should have worked much harder to avoid the civil war AND end it sooner. Pitting Americans against Americans in a brutal civil war that killed and mangled our best warriors is flat out stupid.

 

[mamooth]

Trump is historic because in this modern age, he's the first president in 100 years that isn't bought and paid for by the special interests AND isn't in it to line his own pockets like the Clintons, Obamas and Bidens.

We've lost a generation of the the mentally deficient to irreversible Trump cult brainwashing.

Trump openly takes bribes now. He's taking whole airplanes now. The whole Trump family is taking billion dollar bribes. The whole GOP is now on the take.

In stark contrast, Biden never took a penny. Nor did Obama or Clinton.

If any Trump cult hellspawn disagree, they should show evidence against Biden. None will, because it doesn't exist, and because they're too busy being down on their knees pleasuring the Lord of Lies.