Best Buy's Geek Squad - Getting More (Or Less) Than You Bargained For

[usmbguest5318]

I wonder whether the information obtained led to the apprehension of hackers. LOL

Russian hackers.

I really wouldn't know the nationality any hackers that may have been uncovered by the collaboration between the Geek Squad and the FBI.

 

[toobfreak]

"We have a moral and, in more than 20 states, a legal obligation to report these findings to law enforcement," Best Buy said in a statement. "We share this policy with our customers in writing before we begin any repair."

**** the stupid child pornographers.

So you like the idea of a stranger searching through your private files and folders while there to fix a power supply or wiring problem? It can involve much more than pornography, it is a privacy issue, and having pictures in your computer doesn't make you a child pornographer, the people on the web taking the pictures where I assume you GOT the pictures are, and the FBI ought to be more concerned with them. If the web wasn't full of the stuff to begin with, people wouldn't have it on their computers to look at.

Once you willingly hand over your property to a third party and give them permission to use/look at/access it, 4th amendment protections go out the window.

If you are dumb enough to hand your child porn filled computer to someone who's entire job is to look at the computer's files and system to figure out what's wrong, not only does the Constitution not protect you, but they probably have a duty to report this to police or become accomplices after the fact.

Like I keep saying, Marty, quite a different matter if it is a software issue and they have to be going through the operating system looking for application conflicts and stuff and accidentally come across illegal stuff. But no ethical company would be opening files and folders that do not concern them, just to see what is in there. That would be akin to taking your car in to your mechanic for an engine problem, and while there, the mechanic rooting all through your glove compartment papers, looking under your seat and rooting all through your trunk for anything valuable.

Considering how dumb these guys were in the first place to hand over a computer with illegal content over to someone, I have a feeling they didn't do much to hide the files on their system.

And guess what? You give your car to a mechanic they can actually do that, considering in some cars the fusebox is in the glove compartment.

No disagreement on either count other than to say that just because there are papers in my glove-box the mechanic might have to move out of his way to get to a fuse does not justify his taking them out and reading them! I leave spare money in my car for emergencies all of the time plus other valuables and do not worry about my mechanic ever taking any of it. It's called honesty and ethics. If I were in business to fix computers and the FBI told me to snoop through folders looking for stuff that did not concern me for them, I'd tell them to go get stuffed. Or I just wouldn't do it. Or I'd get into another line of work. The FBI doesn't know whether those guys look all through people's computers, does not ask them to report how many computers they check or ask why they don't find anything in 99% of them and if they are looking hard enough! And if they do, we are all in trouble. Whatever issue pornography is, it doesn't begin on people's computers and busting someone for looking at it solves nothing, it begins on the internet and the FBI can find all of it in the world they want with just a few simple mouse clicks. If they really want to combat it, they should look there and go after those that actually create it, those that post it, and those that transmit it around the world for others to find.

 

[martybegan]

"We have a moral and, in more than 20 states, a legal obligation to report these findings to law enforcement," Best Buy said in a statement. "We share this policy with our customers in writing before we begin any repair."

**** the stupid child pornographers.

So you like the idea of a stranger searching through your private files and folders while there to fix a power supply or wiring problem? It can involve much more than pornography, it is a privacy issue, and having pictures in your computer doesn't make you a child pornographer, the people on the web taking the pictures where I assume you GOT the pictures are, and the FBI ought to be more concerned with them. If the web wasn't full of the stuff to begin with, people wouldn't have it on their computers to look at.

Once you willingly hand over your property to a third party and give them permission to use/look at/access it, 4th amendment protections go out the window.

If you are dumb enough to hand your child porn filled computer to someone who's entire job is to look at the computer's files and system to figure out what's wrong, not only does the Constitution not protect you, but they probably have a duty to report this to police or become accomplices after the fact.

Like I keep saying, Marty, quite a different matter if it is a software issue and they have to be going through the operating system looking for application conflicts and stuff and accidentally come across illegal stuff. But no ethical company would be opening files and folders that do not concern them, just to see what is in there. That would be akin to taking your car in to your mechanic for an engine problem, and while there, the mechanic rooting all through your glove compartment papers, looking under your seat and rooting all through your trunk for anything valuable.

Considering how dumb these guys were in the first place to hand over a computer with illegal content over to someone, I have a feeling they didn't do much to hide the files on their system.

And guess what? You give your car to a mechanic they can actually do that, considering in some cars the fusebox is in the glove compartment.

No disagreement on either count other than to say that just because there are papers in my glove-box the mechanic might have to move out of his way to get to a fuse does not justify his taking them out and reading them! I leave spare money in my car for emergencies all of the time plus other valuables and do not worry about my mechanic ever taking any of it. It's called honesty and ethics. If I were in business to fix computers and the FBI told me to snoop through folders looking for stuff that did not concern me for them, I'd tell them to go get stuffed. Or I just wouldn't do it. Or I'd get into another line of work. The FBI doesn't know whether those guys look all through people's computers, does not ask them to report how many computers they check or ask why they don't find anything in 99% of them and if they are looking hard enough! And if they do, we are all in trouble. Whatever issue pornography is, it doesn't begin on people's computers and busting someone for looking at it solves nothing, it begins on the internet and the FBI can find all of it in the world they want with just a few simple mouse clicks. If they really want to combat it, they should look there and go after those that actually create it, those that post it, and those that transmit it around the world for others to find.

Well now going onto your computer via the internet would be an actual search. I know we are not really disagreeing here, but the simple fact is these morons physically brought their pron laden computers to a place given express permission to access their computers.

 

[toobfreak]

"We have a moral and, in more than 20 states, a legal obligation to report these findings to law enforcement," Best Buy said in a statement. "We share this policy with our customers in writing before we begin any repair."

**** the stupid child pornographers.

So you like the idea of a stranger searching through your private files and folders while there to fix a power supply or wiring problem? It can involve much more than pornography, it is a privacy issue, and having pictures in your computer doesn't make you a child pornographer, the people on the web taking the pictures where I assume you GOT the pictures are, and the FBI ought to be more concerned with them. If the web wasn't full of the stuff to begin with, people wouldn't have it on their computers to look at.

Once you willingly hand over your property to a third party and give them permission to use/look at/access it, 4th amendment protections go out the window.

If you are dumb enough to hand your child porn filled computer to someone who's entire job is to look at the computer's files and system to figure out what's wrong, not only does the Constitution not protect you, but they probably have a duty to report this to police or become accomplices after the fact.

Like I keep saying, Marty, quite a different matter if it is a software issue and they have to be going through the operating system looking for application conflicts and stuff and accidentally come across illegal stuff. But no ethical company would be opening files and folders that do not concern them, just to see what is in there. That would be akin to taking your car in to your mechanic for an engine problem, and while there, the mechanic rooting all through your glove compartment papers, looking under your seat and rooting all through your trunk for anything valuable.

Considering how dumb these guys were in the first place to hand over a computer with illegal content over to someone, I have a feeling they didn't do much to hide the files on their system.

And guess what? You give your car to a mechanic they can actually do that, considering in some cars the fusebox is in the glove compartment.

You are simply rationalizing now. You don't know any of that. Let's say you have porn on your desktop because it's easy to access there never suspecting your computer might crash! That doesn't necessarily make you dumb, do you really think most people think that far ahead? Once your computer crashes, it's not like you can go in there and move it.

But we keep dodging the real issue here. Now, if you just happened to be a child pornographer who was actually USING children and taking pictures of them and running a business making money selling the stuff out of your computer (which is the kind of stuff the FBI should already be looking to detect and stop on the internet), that is one thing. I have absolutely no disagreement that if I was a tech and found such evidence, I would call someone; they wouldn't need a "law" for me to do it. But what we are talking about here is a totally different thing: some guy who is an insurance salesman or a plumber who just happens to have saved some porn he came across freely available and floating all over the internet on his computer. What is served in reporting him and busting him? For what, using the internet? For saving pictures that are already saved in 10,000 Google servers around the world? But what about the FBI "ordering" Best Buy to report porn? Sounds like a good thing, but many bad things start with good intentions. I'd wager that ZERO percent of anyone caught by Best Buy was actually contributing to or creating the porn themselves, they were just average people like you and I.

But if the FBI can do this, go after average people for just LOOKING at porn and ordering others to report it to them because that's a lot easier to do and makes it look like they are doing their jobs when in fact it does NOTHING to the real porn problem ON THE INTERNET, then, why not just take it to the nest logical step? If you find no issue with that, then would you be OK with, like random drug tests by your employer, if the FBI started doing random house searches? Why not then just have the FBI go around at random, show up at your house, demand entrance without warning, and search through your computer and smartphones for porn, then take you away if they find any?

WHY STOP THERE. Just let them search your whole house for any evidence that you have or are doing ANYTHING against the law? You see, there are no many laws now that I bet they could find you breaking at least one of them! Any person reading this is, I'm sure breaking some kind of law somewhere, whether they even know it or not. So let's have Big Brother come in and shake us down every now and then. Take father away in the middle of the night because the State didn't like something he was doing.

Isn't that a bit like Trump? They don't know he broke any law or committed anything wrong, they just suspected him, accused him, then sent Mueller in there now to shake his life apart top to bottom until they find SOMETHING to justify the investigation. Is that Your America?

YOU SEE, IT IS THE SAME THING. Just now, the robes have been taken off and it has been unmasked for what it really is. It isn't a question of defending porn, it is a question of how they go about it and whether private use is really the issue instead of those who ACTUALLY CREATE THE STUFF?

 

[evenflow1969]

Turns out the Geek Squad has for years been working with the FBI to rat you out on any personal information they might find snooping around through your device without your permission while supposedly fixing it the FBI might be interested in. Discuss.

FBI paid Geek Squad staff to be informants, documents show

Where the **** you at Tube? See what these russian freeks are putting on your thread ------
Russians Have Some Nerve
let them know what you think

 

[martybegan]

"We have a moral and, in more than 20 states, a legal obligation to report these findings to law enforcement," Best Buy said in a statement. "We share this policy with our customers in writing before we begin any repair."

**** the stupid child pornographers.

So you like the idea of a stranger searching through your private files and folders while there to fix a power supply or wiring problem? It can involve much more than pornography, it is a privacy issue, and having pictures in your computer doesn't make you a child pornographer, the people on the web taking the pictures where I assume you GOT the pictures are, and the FBI ought to be more concerned with them. If the web wasn't full of the stuff to begin with, people wouldn't have it on their computers to look at.

Once you willingly hand over your property to a third party and give them permission to use/look at/access it, 4th amendment protections go out the window.

If you are dumb enough to hand your child porn filled computer to someone who's entire job is to look at the computer's files and system to figure out what's wrong, not only does the Constitution not protect you, but they probably have a duty to report this to police or become accomplices after the fact.

Like I keep saying, Marty, quite a different matter if it is a software issue and they have to be going through the operating system looking for application conflicts and stuff and accidentally come across illegal stuff. But no ethical company would be opening files and folders that do not concern them, just to see what is in there. That would be akin to taking your car in to your mechanic for an engine problem, and while there, the mechanic rooting all through your glove compartment papers, looking under your seat and rooting all through your trunk for anything valuable.

Considering how dumb these guys were in the first place to hand over a computer with illegal content over to someone, I have a feeling they didn't do much to hide the files on their system.

And guess what? You give your car to a mechanic they can actually do that, considering in some cars the fusebox is in the glove compartment.

You are simply rationalizing now. You don't know any of that. Let's say you have porn on your desktop because it's easy to access there never suspecting your computer might crash! That doesn't necessarily make you dumb, do you really think most people think that far ahead? Once your computer crashes, it's not like you can go in there and move it.

But we keep dodging the real issue here. Now, if you just happened to be a child pornographer who was actually USING children and taking pictures of them and running a business making money selling the stuff out of your computer (which is the kind of stuff the FBI should already be looking to detect and stop on the internet), that is one thing. I have absolutely no disagreement that if I was a tech and found such evidence, I would call someone; they wouldn't need a "law" for me to do it. But what we are talking about here is a totally different thing: some guy who is an insurance salesman or a plumber who just happens to have saved some porn he came across freely available and floating all over the internet on his computer. What is served in reporting him and busting him? For what, using the internet? For saving pictures that are already saved in 10,000 Google servers around the world? But what about the FBI "ordering" Best Buy to report porn? Sounds like a good thing, but many bad things start with good intention. I'd wager that ZERO percent of anyone caught by Best Buy was actually contributing to or creating the porn themselves, they were just average people like you and I.

But if the FBI can do this, go after average people for just LOOKING at porn and ordering others to report it to them because that's a lot easier to do and makes it look like they are doing their jobs when in fact it does NOTHING to the real porn problem ON THE INTERNET, then, why not just take it to the nest logical step? If you find no issue with that, then would you be OK with, like random drug tests by your employer, if the FBI started doing random house searches? Why not then just have the FBI go around at random, show up at your house, demand entrance without warning, and search through your computer and smartphones for porn, then take you away if they find any?

YOU SEE, IT IS THE SAME THING. Just now, the robes have been taken off and it has been unmasked for what it really is. It isn't a question of defending porn, it is a question of how they go about it and whether private use is really the issue instead of those who ACTUALLY CREATE THE STUFF?

if you have something illegal on your computer and it crashes YOU SMASH THE HARD DRIVE AND GET A NEW ONE

Possession of child porn is a crime itself because the material is the result of a criminal activity. It's why you only punish possession of "real" child porn, not cartoon hentai or written stories about it.

And it's not just looking, these people get busted for having it ON their hard drive, and it's not usually just 1-2 images that you may just pick up by accident in your browser history, 99% of the time is megabytes of the stuff.

Getting the people making it may be more important, but getting the people creating the demand is an acceptable 2nd place win.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Turns out the Geek Squad has for years been working with the FBI to rat you out on any personal information they might find snooping around through your device without your permission while supposedly fixing it the FBI might be interested in. Discuss.

FBI paid Geek Squad staff to be informants, documents show

I'd sell Geek Squad short if I could

 

[Ravi]

"We have a moral and, in more than 20 states, a legal obligation to report these findings to law enforcement," Best Buy said in a statement. "We share this policy with our customers in writing before we begin any repair."

**** the stupid child pornographers.

So you like the idea of a stranger searching through your private files and folders while there to fix a power supply or wiring problem? It can involve much more than pornography, it is a privacy issue, and having pictures in your computer doesn't make you a child pornographer, the people on the web taking the pictures where I assume you GOT the pictures are, and the FBI ought to be more concerned with them. If the web wasn't full of the stuff to begin with, people wouldn't have it on their computers to look at.

Once you willingly hand over your property to a third party and give them permission to use/look at/access it, 4th amendment protections go out the window.

If you are dumb enough to hand your child porn filled computer to someone who's entire job is to look at the computer's files and system to figure out what's wrong, not only does the Constitution not protect you, but they probably have a duty to report this to police or become accomplices after the fact.

Like I keep saying, Marty, quite a different matter if it is a software issue and they have to be going through the operating system looking for application conflicts and stuff and accidentally come across illegal stuff. But no ethical company would be opening files and folders that do not concern them, just to see what is in there. That would be akin to taking your car in to your mechanic for an engine problem, and while there, the mechanic rooting all through your glove compartment papers, looking under your seat and rooting all through your trunk for anything valuable.

Considering how dumb these guys were in the first place to hand over a computer with illegal content over to someone, I have a feeling they didn't do much to hide the files on their system.

And guess what? You give your car to a mechanic they can actually do that, considering in some cars the fusebox is in the glove compartment.

You are simply rationalizing now. You don't know any of that. Let's say you have porn on your desktop because it's easy to access there never suspecting your computer might crash! That doesn't necessarily make you dumb, do you really think most people think that far ahead? Once your computer crashes, it's not like you can go in there and move it.

But we keep dodging the real issue here. Now, if you just happened to be a child pornographer who was actually USING children and taking pictures of them and running a business making money selling the stuff out of your computer (which is the kind of stuff the FBI should already be looking to detect and stop on the internet), that is one thing. I have absolutely no disagreement that if I was a tech and found such evidence, I would call someone; they wouldn't need a "law" for me to do it. But what we are talking about here is a totally different thing: some guy who is an insurance salesman or a plumber who just happens to have saved some porn he came across freely available and floating all over the internet on his computer. What is served in reporting him and busting him? For what, using the internet? For saving pictures that are already saved in 10,000 Google servers around the world? But what about the FBI "ordering" Best Buy to report porn? Sounds like a good thing, but many bad things start with good intentions. I'd wager that ZERO percent of anyone caught by Best Buy was actually contributing to or creating the porn themselves, they were just average people like you and I.

But if the FBI can do this, go after average people for just LOOKING at porn and ordering others to report it to them because that's a lot easier to do and makes it look like they are doing their jobs when in fact it does NOTHING to the real porn problem ON THE INTERNET, then, why not just take it to the nest logical step? If you find no issue with that, then would you be OK with, like random drug tests by your employer, if the FBI started doing random house searches? Why not then just have the FBI go around at random, show up at your house, demand entrance without warning, and search through your computer and smartphones for porn, then take you away if they find any?

WHY STOP THERE. Just let them search your whole house for any evidence that you have or are doing ANYTHING against the law? You see, there are no many laws now that I bet they could find you breaking at least one of them! Any person reading this is, I'm sure breaking some kind of law somewhere, whether they even know it or not. So let's have Big Brother come in and shake us down every now and then. Take father away in the middle of the night because the State didn't like something he was doing.

Isn't that a bit like Trump? They don't know he broke any law or committed anything wrong, they just suspected him, accused him, then sent Mueller in there now to shake his life apart top to bottom until they find SOMETHING to justify the investigation. Is that Your America?

YOU SEE, IT IS THE SAME THING. Just now, the robes have been taken off and it has been unmasked for what it really is. It isn't a question of defending porn, it is a question of how they go about it and whether private use is really the issue instead of those who ACTUALLY CREATE THE STUFF?

No one is reporting them for regular porn you idiot. They are getting reported for having child porn.

 

[Inmar]

Turns out the Geek Squad has for years been working with the FBI to rat you out on any personal information they might find snooping around through your device without your permission while supposedly fixing it the FBI might be interested in. Discuss.

FBI paid Geek Squad staff to be informants, documents show

Where the **** you at Tube? See what these russian freeks are putting on your thread ------
Russians Have Some Nerve
let them know what you think

Are you pissed, American pig?

 

[martybegan]

So you like the idea of a stranger searching through your private files and folders while there to fix a power supply or wiring problem? It can involve much more than pornography, it is a privacy issue, and having pictures in your computer doesn't make you a child pornographer, the people on the web taking the pictures where I assume you GOT the pictures are, and the FBI ought to be more concerned with them. If the web wasn't full of the stuff to begin with, people wouldn't have it on their computers to look at.

Once you willingly hand over your property to a third party and give them permission to use/look at/access it, 4th amendment protections go out the window.

If you are dumb enough to hand your child porn filled computer to someone who's entire job is to look at the computer's files and system to figure out what's wrong, not only does the Constitution not protect you, but they probably have a duty to report this to police or become accomplices after the fact.

Like I keep saying, Marty, quite a different matter if it is a software issue and they have to be going through the operating system looking for application conflicts and stuff and accidentally come across illegal stuff. But no ethical company would be opening files and folders that do not concern them, just to see what is in there. That would be akin to taking your car in to your mechanic for an engine problem, and while there, the mechanic rooting all through your glove compartment papers, looking under your seat and rooting all through your trunk for anything valuable.

Considering how dumb these guys were in the first place to hand over a computer with illegal content over to someone, I have a feeling they didn't do much to hide the files on their system.

And guess what? You give your car to a mechanic they can actually do that, considering in some cars the fusebox is in the glove compartment.

You are simply rationalizing now. You don't know any of that. Let's say you have porn on your desktop because it's easy to access there never suspecting your computer might crash! That doesn't necessarily make you dumb, do you really think most people think that far ahead? Once your computer crashes, it's not like you can go in there and move it.

But we keep dodging the real issue here. Now, if you just happened to be a child pornographer who was actually USING children and taking pictures of them and running a business making money selling the stuff out of your computer (which is the kind of stuff the FBI should already be looking to detect and stop on the internet), that is one thing. I have absolutely no disagreement that if I was a tech and found such evidence, I would call someone; they wouldn't need a "law" for me to do it. But what we are talking about here is a totally different thing: some guy who is an insurance salesman or a plumber who just happens to have saved some porn he came across freely available and floating all over the internet on his computer. What is served in reporting him and busting him? For what, using the internet? For saving pictures that are already saved in 10,000 Google servers around the world? But what about the FBI "ordering" Best Buy to report porn? Sounds like a good thing, but many bad things start with good intentions. I'd wager that ZERO percent of anyone caught by Best Buy was actually contributing to or creating the porn themselves, they were just average people like you and I.

But if the FBI can do this, go after average people for just LOOKING at porn and ordering others to report it to them because that's a lot easier to do and makes it look like they are doing their jobs when in fact it does NOTHING to the real porn problem ON THE INTERNET, then, why not just take it to the nest logical step? If you find no issue with that, then would you be OK with, like random drug tests by your employer, if the FBI started doing random house searches? Why not then just have the FBI go around at random, show up at your house, demand entrance without warning, and search through your computer and smartphones for porn, then take you away if they find any?

WHY STOP THERE. Just let them search your whole house for any evidence that you have or are doing ANYTHING against the law? You see, there are no many laws now that I bet they could find you breaking at least one of them! Any person reading this is, I'm sure breaking some kind of law somewhere, whether they even know it or not. So let's have Big Brother come in and shake us down every now and then. Take father away in the middle of the night because the State didn't like something he was doing.

Isn't that a bit like Trump? They don't know he broke any law or committed anything wrong, they just suspected him, accused him, then sent Mueller in there now to shake his life apart top to bottom until they find SOMETHING to justify the investigation. Is that Your America?

YOU SEE, IT IS THE SAME THING. Just now, the robes have been taken off and it has been unmasked for what it really is. It isn't a question of defending porn, it is a question of how they go about it and whether private use is really the issue instead of those who ACTUALLY CREATE THE STUFF?

No one is reporting them for regular porn you idiot. They are getting reported for having child porn.

Knowing the types of people working a geek squad, they probably find a normal person's porn pretty tame.

No Tentacles.

 

[evenflow1969]

Turns out the Geek Squad has for years been working with the FBI to rat you out on any personal information they might find snooping around through your device without your permission while supposedly fixing it the FBI might be interested in. Discuss.

FBI paid Geek Squad staff to be informants, documents show

Where the **** you at Tube? See what these russian freeks are putting on your thread ------
Russians Have Some Nerve
let them know what you think

Are you pissed, American pig?

I have a good idea of who and what you are! You know videos like that do not scare people like us! We were ready to leave the moment we got here! We americans have not gotten soft. There are plenty around who still get it. Meet Mike he is a freind of mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You will meet more!

 

[toobfreak]

Turns out the Geek Squad has for years been working with the FBI to rat you out on any personal information they might find snooping around through your device without your permission while supposedly fixing it the FBI might be interested in. Discuss.

FBI paid Geek Squad staff to be informants, documents show

Where the **** you at Tube? See what these russian freeks are putting on your thread ------
Russians Have Some Nerve
let them know what you think

Where am I at? I'm sitting at a pub right now in Moscow, drinking a beer at the corner of Povarskaya ulitsa and Bol'shaya Molchanovka ulitsa while watching a soccer match on the television. I'm sitting at the third table in from the door alone wearing a green hat and with a brown mustache and sporting a black coat and hat and tan shirt, waiting for the resident russian USMB psycho trolls to come get Mogul, Rogul, or whomever the **** they think I really am in their fucked up heads! Hurry up boys, I'm waiting!

 

[evenflow1969]

Once you willingly hand over your property to a third party and give them permission to use/look at/access it, 4th amendment protections go out the window.

If you are dumb enough to hand your child porn filled computer to someone who's entire job is to look at the computer's files and system to figure out what's wrong, not only does the Constitution not protect you, but they probably have a duty to report this to police or become accomplices after the fact.

Like I keep saying, Marty, quite a different matter if it is a software issue and they have to be going through the operating system looking for application conflicts and stuff and accidentally come across illegal stuff. But no ethical company would be opening files and folders that do not concern them, just to see what is in there. That would be akin to taking your car in to your mechanic for an engine problem, and while there, the mechanic rooting all through your glove compartment papers, looking under your seat and rooting all through your trunk for anything valuable.

Considering how dumb these guys were in the first place to hand over a computer with illegal content over to someone, I have a feeling they didn't do much to hide the files on their system.

And guess what? You give your car to a mechanic they can actually do that, considering in some cars the fusebox is in the glove compartment.

You are simply rationalizing now. You don't know any of that. Let's say you have porn on your desktop because it's easy to access there never suspecting your computer might crash! That doesn't necessarily make you dumb, do you really think most people think that far ahead? Once your computer crashes, it's not like you can go in there and move it.

But we keep dodging the real issue here. Now, if you just happened to be a child pornographer who was actually USING children and taking pictures of them and running a business making money selling the stuff out of your computer (which is the kind of stuff the FBI should already be looking to detect and stop on the internet), that is one thing. I have absolutely no disagreement that if I was a tech and found such evidence, I would call someone; they wouldn't need a "law" for me to do it. But what we are talking about here is a totally different thing: some guy who is an insurance salesman or a plumber who just happens to have saved some porn he came across freely available and floating all over the internet on his computer. What is served in reporting him and busting him? For what, using the internet? For saving pictures that are already saved in 10,000 Google servers around the world? But what about the FBI "ordering" Best Buy to report porn? Sounds like a good thing, but many bad things start with good intentions. I'd wager that ZERO percent of anyone caught by Best Buy was actually contributing to or creating the porn themselves, they were just average people like you and I.

But if the FBI can do this, go after average people for just LOOKING at porn and ordering others to report it to them because that's a lot easier to do and makes it look like they are doing their jobs when in fact it does NOTHING to the real porn problem ON THE INTERNET, then, why not just take it to the nest logical step? If you find no issue with that, then would you be OK with, like random drug tests by your employer, if the FBI started doing random house searches? Why not then just have the FBI go around at random, show up at your house, demand entrance without warning, and search through your computer and smartphones for porn, then take you away if they find any?

WHY STOP THERE. Just let them search your whole house for any evidence that you have or are doing ANYTHING against the law? You see, there are no many laws now that I bet they could find you breaking at least one of them! Any person reading this is, I'm sure breaking some kind of law somewhere, whether they even know it or not. So let's have Big Brother come in and shake us down every now and then. Take father away in the middle of the night because the State didn't like something he was doing.

Isn't that a bit like Trump? They don't know he broke any law or committed anything wrong, they just suspected him, accused him, then sent Mueller in there now to shake his life apart top to bottom until they find SOMETHING to justify the investigation. Is that Your America?

YOU SEE, IT IS THE SAME THING. Just now, the robes have been taken off and it has been unmasked for what it really is. It isn't a question of defending porn, it is a question of how they go about it and whether private use is really the issue instead of those who ACTUALLY CREATE THE STUFF?

No one is reporting them for regular porn you idiot. They are getting reported for having child porn.

Knowing the types of people working a geek squad, they probably find a normal person's porn pretty tame.

No Tentacles.

Imar here is not part of the geek squad are you, tell them who you realy are!

Turns out the Geek Squad has for years been working with the FBI to rat you out on any personal information they might find snooping around through your device without your permission while supposedly fixing it the FBI might be interested in. Discuss.

FBI paid Geek Squad staff to be informants, documents show

Where the **** you at Tube? See what these russian freeks are putting on your thread ------
Russians Have Some Nerve
let them know what you think

Are you pissed, American pig?

No, I like it! I love it! I want more of it! Drive on baby drive on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is like you are a dirty little russian whore talking dirty! I get a kick out of it! Gotsome more videos to show me buddy

 

[evenflow1969]

Turns out the Geek Squad has for years been working with the FBI to rat you out on any personal information they might find snooping around through your device without your permission while supposedly fixing it the FBI might be interested in. Discuss.

FBI paid Geek Squad staff to be informants, documents show

Where the **** you at Tube? See what these russian freeks are putting on your thread ------
Russians Have Some Nerve
let them know what you think

Where am I at? I'm sitting at a pub right now in Moscow, drinking a beer at the corner of Povarskaya ulitsa and Bol'shaya Molchanovka ulitsa while watching a soccer match on the television. I'm sitting at the third table in from the door alone wearing a green hat and with a brown mustache and sporting a black coat and hat and tan shirt, waiting for the resident russian USMB psycho trolls to come get Mogul, Rogul, or whomever the **** they think I really am in their fucked up heads! Hurry up boys, I'm waiting!

Good to see buddy! I was beginning to think I was alone in my hatred of these idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[toobfreak]

Possession of child porn is a crime itself because the material is the result of a criminal activity.

Then every server and search engine in the world is guilty of a crime. Let me know when Google goes to jail. Google, Bing and every other search engine provider are child pornographers. Saving a picture off the web that just pops up for free is not criminal activity. It does not create a "demand." The people who took that picture and put it there do not know you looked at it, saved it, nor do they profit from it. It is still there whether or not you view it or not and busting people for the stuff is a total cop out because it does nothing to address the real problem. It is all for show, just like busting some dude for smoking a joint. The FBI could eliminate porn off the web in a BLINK, if they really wanted to! Think about it, they know so well right where it is, they can filter it and separate it from all the rest at the click of a mouse!

these people get busted for having it ON their hard drive

Then let me know when all the world's search engines get busted. You are creating no demand by viewing pictures off the web because the source of those pictures has no way of knowing people looked at them, downloaded them, and no currency was exchanged. If anyone is creating a demand, it is the IPs themselves for freely spreading the stuff around for people to view. If they weren't putting it everywhere that you actually need a filter to BLOCK IT, no one would have it on their computers in the first place. And the FBI WANTS the porn out there otherwise they'd STOP IT. They WANT the stuff there because it gives them something to do to justify their having as job. Porn exists because those in power WANT IT to exist. Get a grip and wake up. If the US government really wanted to stop porn, THEY COULD DO IT IN A DAY.

Worse, the FBI is apparently PAYING Best Buy, so they are using your tax dollars, Best Buy isn't doing it to follow the law, and since the FBI allows the rampant spread of porn all over the web and does nothing to stop IPs from hosting it, you could consider this entrapment. It's all a clever gig to give a bunch of guys something to justify their paychecks. I'm not defending porn, but quite frankly, I could care less what you look at to get your jollies off. If I download a picture of a tree, I don't create a demand from the photographer of that nature scene to take more tree pictures. If people want to stop porn, stop screwing with people on the street whom you are throwing the stuff IN THEIR FACE and fix the internet that IS the SOURCE and CREATES the demand by hosting it. Go after the IP's to stop hosting the crap------ it's nothing but mind rot.

 

[toobfreak]

No one is reporting them for regular porn you idiot. They are getting reported for having child porn.

And how do you know what is child porn when it gets intermixed in with everything? You ask to see a washing machine and you get dirty pictures! Do you know if that girl is really 18 just because the picture says so? You are beating a dead horse ruining innocent people's lives for having pictures for personal use that are freely available and hosted around the world by every internet provider and search engine in the world. Downloading a picture does not create a "demand" or a "market." The stuff was there before you were born and would still be there had you never seen it. Your saving a photo to file is an INTERNAL PROCESS in your computer, it isn't like you ordered it off of Amazon, paid them, and they are mailing it to you!!!!! The real issue here is the free access to the stuff provided by the Internet which the FBI and DOJ do nothing about.

 

[martybegan]

Possession of child porn is a crime itself because the material is the result of a criminal activity.

Then every server and search engine in the world is guilty of a crime. Let me know when Google goes to jail. Google, Bing and every other search engine provider are child pornographers. Saving a picture off the web that just pops up for free is not criminal activity. It does not create a "demand." The people who took that picture and put it there do not know you looked at it, saved it, nor do they profit from it. It is still there whether or not you view it or not and busting people for the stuff is a total cop out because it does nothing to address the real problem. It is all for show, just like busting some dude for smoking a joint. The FBI could eliminate porn off the web in a BLINK, if they really wanted to! Think about it, they know so well right where it is, they can filter it and separate it from all the rest at the click of a mouse!

these people get busted for having it ON their hard drive

Then let me know when all the world's search engines get busted. You are creating no demand by viewing pictures off the web because the source of those pictures has no way of knowing people looked at them, downloaded them, and no currency was exchanged. If anyone is creating a demand, it is the IPs themselves for freely spreading the stuff around for people to view. If they weren't putting it everywhere that you actually need a filter to BLOCK IT, no one would have it on their computers in the first place. And the FBI WANTS the porn out there otherwise they'd STOP IT. They WANT the stuff there because it gives them something to do to justify their having as job. Porn exists because those in power WANT IT to exist. Get a grip and wake up. If the US government really wanted to stop porn, THEY COULD DO IT IN A DAY.

Worse, the FBI is apparently PAYING Best Buy, so they are using your tax dollars, Best Buy isn't doing it to follow the law, and since the FBI allows the rampant spread of porn all over the web and does nothing to stop IPs from hosting it, you could consider this entrapment. It's all a clever gig to give a bunch of guys something to justify their paychecks. I'm not defending porn, but quite frankly, I could care less what you look at to get your jollies off. If I download a picture of a tree, I don't create a demand from the photographer of that nature scene to take more tree pictures. If people want to stop porn, stop screwing with people on the street whom you are throwing the stuff IN THEIR FACE and fix the internet that IS the SOURCE and CREATES the demand by hosting it. Go after the IP's to stop hosting the crap------ it's nothing but mind rot.

There is a difference between the transit of information and possession on a machine by you on your property, that you just stupidly gave to a 3rd party to look at.

You are making a stand on a hill that no one wants to defend.

 

[martybegan]

No one is reporting them for regular porn you idiot. They are getting reported for having child porn.

And how do you know what is child porn when it gets intermixed in with everything? You ask to see a washing machine and you get dirty pictures! Do you know if that girl is really 18 just because the picture says so? You are beating a dead horse ruining innocent people's lives for having pictures for personal use that are freely available and hosted around the world by every internet provider and search engine in the world. Downloading a picture does not create a "demand" or a "market." The stuff was there before you were born and would still be there had you never seen it. Your saving a photo to file is an INTERNAL PROCESS in your computer, it isn't like you ordered it off of Amazon, paid them, and they are mailing it to you!!!!! The real issue here is the free access to the stuff provided by the Internet which the FBI and DOJ do nothing about.

Possession of child porn is a crime, and the type you get busted for CANNOT be mistaken for anything else.

 

[fncceo]

I don't care ... 'Geek Squad' is a way cooler name than 'Genius Bar'.

 

[G.T.]

Turns out the Geek Squad has for years been working with the FBI to rat you out on any personal information they might find snooping around through your device without your permission while supposedly fixing it the FBI might be interested in. Discuss.

FBI paid Geek Squad staff to be informants, documents show

Where the **** you at Tube? See what these russian freeks are putting on your thread ------
Russians Have Some Nerve
let them know what you think

Where am I at? I'm sitting at a pub right now in Moscow, drinking a beer at the corner of Povarskaya ulitsa and Bol'shaya Molchanovka ulitsa while watching a soccer match on the television. I'm sitting at the third table in from the door alone wearing a green hat and with a brown mustache and sporting a black coat and hat and tan shirt, waiting for the resident russian USMB psycho trolls to come get Mogul, Rogul, or whomever the **** they think I really am in their fucked up heads! Hurry up boys, I'm waiting!

this niggas wearin two hats