Bernie Sanders wants preemptive pardons for members of the House January 6 select committee

[22lcidw]

Well you got Lauren Boebart on your side, but the Republican head of committee, investigating the work of the J6 committee, says there is no evidence of them destroying evidence. Are you saying you do not believe in the evidence of the J6 Committee and you do not believe the Republican investigation of the J6 Committee? So now what. Do we need a Republican committee to investigate the Republican Committee and investigated the J6 Committee?

AOC will destroy the nation.

 

[White 6]

I have no idea what your paraphrased comments are referring to. I need transcripts if we are to honestly discuss this.

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[elektra]

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BFD

You can't quote or provide the transcripts if the actual conversation.

Linking to disinformation is a poor discussion

 

[White 6]

This thread is about what democrats called a coup, not "recoup" of Medicare?

So, everybody over 60 can blow it off, as they will not be affected?

 

[Foxfyre]

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Senator Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) said President Joe Biden should “very seriously” consider preemptive pardons for members of the House January 6 select committee after president-elect Donald Trump said last week they should be jailed.

Sanders twice called Trump’s recent statement “outrageous.”

“This is what authoritarianism is all about. It’s what dictatorship is all about,” the former Democrat said on NBC’s Meet the Press Sunday morning. “You do not arrest elected officials who disagree with you, who undertake an investigation.”

During a wide-ranging interview with NBC News host Kristen Welker last Sunday, Trump said the seven House Democrats and two House Republicans who served on the January 6 panel “should go to jail.”

Comment:
There should be an investigation into the destruction of evidence by Pelosi's Jan 6 committee.
There should be an investigation into the death of the unarmed protester Ashly Babbitt.
There should be an investigation into the abnormally long prison sentences of the Jan 6 protesters.
Bernie Sanders is a paranoid left wing knuttjob.
Trump is not the "authoritarian".
In fact, what Trump is battling is the far-left authoritarianism of the corrupt Democrat Party.

Since it is unlikely Trump will want to prosecute any on the J6 Committee I wish Biden would do that so they would look more guilty than they already do. And then the House and the new GOP Senate should call every one of them as a witness to testify under oath and, if they are caught in a lie, Bondi should indict them for perjury.

That is how the 'revenge' they claim Trump is wanting could actually come to fruition. And how delicious it would be.

 

[blackhawk]

What do they need pardons for? According to the supporters of the J6 committee they have done nothing that would require a pardon, and they can't be suggesting lawfare is a real thing or that the DOJ can be weaponized.

 

[elektra]

So, everybody over 60 can blow it off, as they will not be affected?

Blow what off, how about linking to a trancript so we know the truth of what was said

 

[Mister Iggy]

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Senator Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) said President Joe Biden should “very seriously” consider preemptive pardons for members of the House January 6 select committee after president-elect Donald Trump said last week they should be jailed.

Sanders twice called Trump’s recent statement “outrageous.”

“This is what authoritarianism is all about. It’s what dictatorship is all about,” the former Democrat said on NBC’s Meet the Press Sunday morning. “You do not arrest elected officials who disagree with you, who undertake an investigation.”

During a wide-ranging interview with NBC News host Kristen Welker last Sunday, Trump said the seven House Democrats and two House Republicans who served on the January 6 panel “should go to jail.”

Comment:
There should be an investigation into the destruction of evidence by Pelosi's Jan 6 committee.
There should be an investigation into the death of the unarmed protester Ashly Babbitt.
There should be an investigation into the abnormally long prison sentences of the Jan 6 protesters.
Bernie Sanders is a paranoid left wing knuttjob.
Trump is not the "authoritarian".
In fact, what Trump is battling is the far-left authoritarianism of the corrupt Democrat Party.

Love you Bernie but you can fuck off..

 

[Blaster]

By pardoning the Jan 6 committee members he is admitting they were all guilty of a crime.

 

[scruffy]

False.

DELETED & ENCRYPTED FILES
The Select Committee also deleted or failed to turn over more than 100 digital documents from the hard drives the Select Committee provided to the Subcommittee. This included numerous password-protected and encrypted files, and in some cases, these files were deleted just days before Republicans took over the majority in January 2023.

In order to reconcile the significant discrepancy between the four terabytes, that Chairperson Thompson claimed he turned over and the less than three terabytes actually received, the Subcommittee contracted with a digital forensics team to conduct a forensic analysis. As a result, the forensics team recovered over 100 deleted or password-protected documents that would otherwise not have been accessible by simply plugging the hard drives into a computer.

After recovering these password-protected documents, Chairman Loudermilk sent Representative Thompson a letter dated January 18, 2024, requesting “a list of passwords for all password-protected files created by the Select Committee.” In response, Representative Thompson claimed to have no knowledge about any passwords, writing, “I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.”

One recovered file, which was not encrypted but was deleted on January 1, 2023, revealed the identity of a witness who worked in the White House and sat for a transcribed interview with the Select Committee. This witness had firsthand knowledge of President Trump’s actions on January 6. This witness’ testimony was not archived by the Select Committee, and until the Subcommittee recovered this file, the Subcommittee had no record of this individual providing testimony to the Select Committee. At this time, the Subcommittee will not release the witness’ name.

Archived files that are encrypted serve no purpose other than to hide information from successive Congresses. Responding to Chairman Loudermilk’s letter, Representative Thompson, however, either no longer could or refused to provide such passwords.

https://cha.house.gov/_cache/files/d/9/d96ba6ce-03fb-4fc8-a4a7-5b5daf19d064/4F510144C1F427873D3298D955C8E19F.initial-findings-report.pdf

The J6 "committee" was a FRAUD.

 

[para bellum]

You do know, that when he started talking about ways to recoup, he pointed to Medicare and Medicaid first, as if they weren't funded by law from payroll taxes. Then, when asked about specific cuts to medicare, reiterated "Nothing is off the table".

Are you calling him a liar or suggesting the House Republican was being disingenuous in some way? Why would he lie?

You are the one being disingenuous when you take his comments out of context. He was not asked specifically about those programs, and he said nothing about Medicaid. He mentioned SS and Medicare because you can't get to $2 Tn on just the discretionary side.

BTW Medicaid is not funded from payroll taxes, it is in the HHS appropriation, and it's split between the Feds and the States.

From you own link:

"...and it’s also going to mean looking long-term at the front end of some programs like Social Security and Medicare. Not taking anyone off of what they paid into so far. But there is some waste, abuse and fraud in Medicare that we can take those numbers back and add to our general coffers and our treasury. And on the front end on Social Security, I think there’s a way, when people are living longer, they’re retiring later, then on the front end we can move that retirement age back a little bit."

Both of those statements are true. There is a industry of fraud related to medicare that has nothing to do with actual services received. There are people who setup fake companies and bill medicare for services and equipment that are never provided. Medicare pays all bills in 30 days, so by the time the fraud is detected the fraudsters have packed up shop and moved elsewhere.

Moving the retirement age back was done in 1983 by Reagan as part of the reforms to prepare for the Baby Boomer retirement, and to the extent lifespans are getting longer and people are retiring later in life, that is also something that might be done again.

 

[marvin martian]

Bernie is definitely pissed no one wanted to pay him to pretend to run for president again this year.

 

[para bellum]

The J6 "committee" was a FRAUD.

Dems do love their star chambers.

Pelosi broke her own house rules when she rejected the GOP appointed members and appointed Kinzinger. Also the committee had no ranking member. It should have been 7 dems and 6 repubs, instead it was 7 dems and Pelosi's 2 handpicked RINO's.

It was a sideshow, zero credibility.

Schiff said it- "If we allow them to appoint their own members, no one will watch"

 

[elektra]

We have very little time to convict Pelosi for failing to protect the Capitol building and grounds.

 

[marvin martian]

We have very little time to convict Pelosi for failing to protect the Capitol building and grounds.

If she doesn't die first.

 

[lafayette]

The longer time moves on from 2016, the more he tarnishes his once populist appeal.

Not at all.

 

[lafayette]

Lafayette cowardly does not respond directly with a reply to my comment so that his/her stand alone comment is not seen.
Lafayette attaches emotions to my comments that I do not have.

Lafayette demonstrates no integrity or honesty

You always receive what you require: correction, in this case.

 

[lafayette]

The J-6 committee... both the republican's and democrats conspired to frame a former US president for a crime... they hid and destroyed emails text messages and evidence that showed Trump was not guilty...
If a prosecutor and a Grand Jury did this they would all be facing 25 years in prison...

Politely, you are full of shit.

 

[elektra]

You always receive what you require: correction, in this case.

That was a low ig correction if we can call your cowardly attempt at an insult a correction

 

[elektra]

Politely, you are full of shit.

Yet, the comment you replied to at least presents an argument whereas all you offered was a low iq contradiction