Bernie Sanders Says He Will “Look At” Tearing Down Existing U.S/Mexico Border Wall

[bripat9643]

It will be torn down eventually

And whoever is in charge of that will have to explain how they are tearing down the wall but don't believe in open borders. Democrats won't be happy until a band of terrorists come here and kill everybody in a state. If that does happen, hopefully it will be a very liberal one.

You don’t have to tear it down

Just follow the Republican lead on Obamacare.....Defund it

Reallocate maintenance money to more important items
Reassign border agents elsewhere

After a few years, do a study on how effective the wall is at stopping immigration and then tear it down because it is doing no good

We already know how Dims operate. Thanks for admitting to their sleazy behavior.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It will be torn down eventually

And whoever is in charge of that will have to explain how they are tearing down the wall but don't believe in open borders. Democrats won't be happy until a band of terrorists come here and kill everybody in a state. If that does happen, hopefully it will be a very liberal one.

You don’t have to tear it down

Just follow the Republican lead on Obamacare.....Defund it

Reallocate maintenance money to more important items
Reassign border agents elsewhere

After a few years, do a study on how effective the wall is at stopping immigration and then tear it down because it is doing no good

Now you and I both know, Doofus was not spouting to that reporter promising to tear down any walls that were to be built or have been built. Sounded like he wanted to weasel out and move on, to me. We do not ever tear down anything until ti becomes a safety hazard like some of the dams and bridges.

Just cut off funding and let it deteriorate and fall down

maybe time for Big Don to pay off on having Mexico pay for the wall if he can't steel enough from the military to build it.

Or you can vote Republicans back in leadership and let them fund it outside of military funds, the funds that Trump got for the military in the first place.

 

[White 6]

And whoever is in charge of that will have to explain how they are tearing down the wall but don't believe in open borders. Democrats won't be happy until a band of terrorists come here and kill everybody in a state. If that does happen, hopefully it will be a very liberal one.

You don’t have to tear it down

Just follow the Republican lead on Obamacare.....Defund it

Reallocate maintenance money to more important items
Reassign border agents elsewhere

After a few years, do a study on how effective the wall is at stopping immigration and then tear it down because it is doing no good

Now you and I both know, Doofus was not spouting to that reporter promising to tear down any walls that were to be built or have been built. Sounded like he wanted to weasel out and move on, to me. We do not ever tear down anything until ti becomes a safety hazard like some of the dams and bridges.

Just cut off funding and let it deteriorate and fall down

maybe time for Big Don to pay off on having Mexico pay for the wall if he can't steel enough from the military to build it.

Or you can vote Republicans back in leadership and let them fund it outside of military funds, the funds that Trump got for the military in the first place.

No. Be glad to watch him pay off on Mexico funding his wall though. I think he knew he was lying when he promised it, don't you?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Well let me explain the problem and why the wall is the solution: Yes, we can put effective policies in place, but it won't have as good of a result as the wall. If Democrats get in charge of the country again, removing regulations and changing them back to their favor is less than a week process. Tearing down the wall however would be a huge process.

This is why the Democrats are so hell bent on stopping the wall; because it's not something that they can easily reverse.

I hear you and understand, but do not think the wall is the answer. Before Trump came in, one of the absolute largest problems was student, workers, visitors coming in overstaying their welcome and joining the underground economy and still is, and unless addressed in the way i proposed always will be. Cheap labor is a valuable resource. By supporting these underground employees, possibly collecting benefits while working the underground side or not working at all, the American public is footing the bill to the benefit of employers making money on the cheap labor source, in other words externalizing the true cost of the labor to society at large. Like one of my points about the wall, I am too frugal with my money to support externalized costs of employment, I am not benefiting from.

Look at it this way: The cost of the food stamp program in 2018 was over 65 billion dollars. We spend that every year plus or minus. The cost to build a wall is about 12 billion, and we only spend that once.

In other words, for what we pay for food stamps for less than three months, we could have a wall across strategic sections of our southern border.

In our system of government, a person is considered innocent until proven guilty. When it comes to employers busted with illegal immigrants, you have to prove they knew the employees were illegal. Fake ID's and documents are a big business in this country. Even if the employer suspects the documentation if less than authentic, it's good enough to get a not guilty verdict in a court of law.

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So your solution is not as easy as that. It comes with a lot of complications, especially for employers.

What you say, could be very well true, but they haven't tried. When they did convict, fines were low and sentencing, non-existent. They have shut down whole meat processing plants, taking many illegal aliens at once, well know the company used illegal, yet light fines and no jail, certainly not lock up with horny Big Bubba. White collar corporate crime is not punished as Bubba was punished for street crime. A lot of those hard core lifers can take it. Greedy little MBA Business managers cannot handle that environment and I believe it would scare the BeJesus out of the ones that followed.

Perhaps, but it's not a total solution to anything. Like I said, illegals come here for all kinds of reasons. Let me put it to you this way: It's estimated by some we have 11 million people illegally in the country now. Some say the amount is much more closer to 20 or 25 million. Do you think all or most of those people are working in the country illegally?

Here is the stupidity of all this, we have a country with sanctuary cities and states, that allow illegals to drive, allow illegals to go to our schools knowingly, allows illegals to stand in line at a DMV in NYC for hours, and nobody does a thing. Some buy houses, others rent apartments or houses. All is fine in illegal alien land. But place hard fines and jail time for business owners because they hire them? It's ridiculous.

On one hand, you say that making it tough on them to get a job would solve the problem, but on the other hand, we have these Democrats that are trying to make them as comfortable as possible. They welcome these illegals with open arms; embrace them. They even warn them when they learn ICE is going to conduct major busts.

Ray, This time you are preaching to the choir and probably know and just strengthening the message. But, I'll play a moment. 1. If they are in the country illegally and working, they are working illegally in my opinion. 1a. If in the country illegally and not working, they are most likely using resources my tax dollars paid for. 2. Sanctuary cities are un-American, I feel they too are illegal and should lose all federal funding, including road construction and maintenance. Won't ever happen, but would not hurt my feelings a bit. Money is the primary thing driving the stream across the boarder and money is the only thing sanctuary cities might react to. I think there is big money of both sides of this issue, so nothing will be done by either party.

You probably don't remember, but Trump already tried that. The commie judges stopped him. After the death of Kate Steinle, the parents tried to sue San Francisco, and a judge stopped that as well. So it's not like Trump isn't trying--he is. But we have this resistance out there that that's making progress impossible. You can call them liberals, Democrats, Socialists, or my favorite, Communists, but they get in the way every time we advance the notion of making these people not want to come here.

So we are not only fighting the illegals, we have to fight the Americans who are ushering them into this country illegally. They want as many as they can get. Their goal is to make whites a minority for the first time in history, and they can't see that happen fast enough.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You don’t have to tear it down

Just follow the Republican lead on Obamacare.....Defund it

Reallocate maintenance money to more important items
Reassign border agents elsewhere

After a few years, do a study on how effective the wall is at stopping immigration and then tear it down because it is doing no good

Now you and I both know, Doofus was not spouting to that reporter promising to tear down any walls that were to be built or have been built. Sounded like he wanted to weasel out and move on, to me. We do not ever tear down anything until ti becomes a safety hazard like some of the dams and bridges.

Just cut off funding and let it deteriorate and fall down

maybe time for Big Don to pay off on having Mexico pay for the wall if he can't steel enough from the military to build it.

Or you can vote Republicans back in leadership and let them fund it outside of military funds, the funds that Trump got for the military in the first place.

No. Be glad to watch him pay off on Mexico funding his wall though. I think he knew he was lying when he promised it, don't you?

Probably, but like most of us on the right, we don't care, just as long as it gets built.

 

[munkle]

The TDS morons in here claim that none of the Dims running for office are in favor of open borders. Why would you tear down the wall unless you want to make it easier for illegals to enter the United States? How can you claim you support controlling immigration if you want to destroy the means of doing it?

One thing is certain: Bernie just destroyed any chance he may have had of getting elected.

Stark Contrast – Bernie Sanders Says He Will “Look At” Tearing Down Existing U.S/Mexico Border Wall…​

• Wow, this is quite a contrast. The number one policy initiative that helped President Trump win election in 2016 was his promise to build a southern border wall. Several hundred miles of the new border security barrier have been completed with several hundred more in various stages of construction. During the VICE News Brown & Black Democrat Presidential Forum today, 2020 candidate Bernie Sanders said he would “look at” tearing it all down.

Would make little difference actually the wall is a joke, kids are showing the can climb it and sit on top of it. There is no immigration crisis until Trump came along and made it.

 

[Norman]

The TDS morons in here claim that none of the Dims running for office are in favor of open borders. Why would you tear down the wall unless you want to make it easier for illegals to enter the United States? How can you claim you support controlling immigration if you want to destroy the means of doing it?

One thing is certain: Bernie just destroyed any chance he may have had of getting elected.

Stark Contrast – Bernie Sanders Says He Will “Look At” Tearing Down Existing U.S/Mexico Border Wall…​

• Wow, this is quite a contrast. The number one policy initiative that helped President Trump win election in 2016 was his promise to build a southern border wall. Several hundred miles of the new border security barrier have been completed with several hundred more in various stages of construction. During the VICE News Brown & Black Democrat Presidential Forum today, 2020 candidate Bernie Sanders said he would “look at” tearing it all down.

Would make little difference actually the wall is a joke, kids are showing the can climb it and sit on top of it. There is no immigration crisis until Trump came along and made it.

No crisis... but over 10 million illegals in the country though. The sanctuary cities apparently appeared out of nothing.

And then of course the caravan invasion... never happened... nothing to see here.

 

[Likkmee]

It will be torn down eventually

And whoever is in charge of that will have to explain how they are tearing down the wall but don't believe in open borders. Democrats won't be happy until a band of terrorists come here and kill everybody in a state. If that does happen, hopefully it will be a very liberal one.

You don’t have to tear it down

Just follow the Republican lead on Obamacare.....Defund it

Reallocate maintenance money to more important items
Reassign border agents elsewhere

After a few years, do a study on how effective the wall is at stopping immigration and then tear it down because it is doing no good

We already know how Dims operate. Thanks for admitting to their sleazy behavior.

It'll be torn down by Mezkinz

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The TDS morons in here claim that none of the Dims running for office are in favor of open borders. Why would you tear down the wall unless you want to make it easier for illegals to enter the United States? How can you claim you support controlling immigration if you want to destroy the means of doing it?

One thing is certain: Bernie just destroyed any chance he may have had of getting elected.

Stark Contrast – Bernie Sanders Says He Will “Look At” Tearing Down Existing U.S/Mexico Border Wall…​

• Wow, this is quite a contrast. The number one policy initiative that helped President Trump win election in 2016 was his promise to build a southern border wall. Several hundred miles of the new border security barrier have been completed with several hundred more in various stages of construction. During the VICE News Brown & Black Democrat Presidential Forum today, 2020 candidate Bernie Sanders said he would “look at” tearing it all down.

Would make little difference actually the wall is a joke, kids are showing the can climb it and sit on top of it. There is no immigration crisis until Trump came along and made it.

Of course there is an immigration crisis. Even hear of the Angel families? Walls and fencing have been very successful everywhere they're tried. The Democrats can't stand it, so they lie to you stating it won't stop illegals. Sorry, but that's been proven to be a lie, even right here in our own country.

 

[skye]

Only a cretin would vote for Sanders.