Bernie Sanders needs to man up and drop out of this race.

[Pogo]

Thousands and thousands show up at the rally's....
Then they don't vote for him??

Over 700K voted for him in NY. The folks at his rallies vote for him, assuming they got registered in time. But more are voting for Hillary. Still, Bernie's riding a wave of populism. He's a professional politician getting his huge ego stroked. Nothing wrong with it, so long as he keeps his eyes focused on the goal. The worry from Team Hillary is that since he really isn't a dem, Bernie's goal may not actually be electing a dem.

It isn't. Never has been. Bernie won his first office by unseating an entrenched Democrat. He only joined the Party to run this campaign.

At least once in Vermont, the Democrats and Republicans teamed up and ran a joint-endorsed candidate to try to beat him. He still won.
Anyone who's not a big fan of the Same Old Thing loves that sort of thing. One of the reasons he has the highest approval rating from his constituents of anyone in the Senate.

The question is whether his primary purpose in continuing his campaign is affecting the public debate and democratic policy and electing a democrat OR stroking his ego. If he continues attacks on Hillary that are more about exciting his crowds that actual substance, e.g. the Wall St speeches, than actual policy differences, he will not be acting constructively.

He is electable. Hillary is not. In the end, he will be the nominee.

He has nearly 3 million LESS VOTES than Hillary and he has 277 LESS pledged delegates.... although he has done way better than anyone has expected, it ain't looking good for him.

"FEWER" -- not "less".

"Fewer raindrops... Less rain"

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Saying Bernie should MAN up is sexist & bigoted.

He needs to unisex up

 

[Pogo]

Sanders just got slammed dunked in New York. This was a must win state for him. There is absolutely no possibility of him winning this nomination. Next Tuesday, April 26- it's going to be even more embarrassing for Bernie Sanders and his supporters.

Tuesday April 26
Connecticut Closed 70 delegates
Delaware Closed 31 delegates
Maryland Closed 118 delegates
Pennsylvania Closed 210 delegates
Rhode Island Mixed 31 delegates

Hillary Clinton is leading by double digits in all of them. After this big win in New York her momentum is going to show itself in the above states.

Sanders has been getting clobbered in these closed Primary states where only Democrats are allowed to vote. He's had a run on several of the smaller caucus states, due to very low voter participation. Typically underdogs will win them, because only underdog supporters will bother to show up for a 3 hour meeting to cast a vote. Had these states been primary states where several days of voting are allowed along with the use of mail in ballots Hillary Clinton would have won them all, and he would be a distant memory now.

If he stays in this race after losing this badly in New York it only proves what Democrats think of him anyway. That he's no Democrat, and he will not do what is right and helpful for the Democrat Party. If he decides he just wants to stay in the limelight--while launching assaults at Hillary Clinton, he does damage to her in the General Election. It's time for this party to unify, and that's not going to happen if Sanders insists on staying in a race that he cannot win.

What, specifically, do you think Hillary will do right for the party?

There are millions of Republicans that believe Hillary Clinton is more conservative than Donald Trump. Republicans are going to vote for conservatism.

She is also a Hawk--she is not as passive regarding terrorism as Barack Obama. In fact, if not for her, Osama Bin Laden would be alive and well today. She was the one that put the pressure on Obama to do the hit, while Joe Biden and many other said no. Also Leon Panneta praises her in his book.

And she has a lot of Republicans that have praised her in the past.
Hillary's secret weapon? GOP praise

Republicans also despise her.

Ok what exactly do you think she will do domestically that would be good for the American people?

Well you probably weren't born yet--but the most fantastic economy that this country ever witnessed was under another Clinton--named Bill. This is when middle class incomes were going thru the roof--and the middle class was also investing in Wall Street. A time when employers were begging for employees. A time when the Federal Budget was balanced--which creates economic growth and opportunity in this country.

Hillary has a lot of praise from Republicans she has worked with in the past. Including Bush Sr. who worked hand in hand with her on putting major dent in AIDS in Africa. G.W. Bush seemed to be fond of her--and commented about about her, and most notably Paul Ryan--house speaker stated: That had she been elected instead of Barack Obama--this fiscal mess would have already been solved.

Bernie on the other hand--has just been a yay, nay and present voter in the senate for the last 25 years. No one ever heard of him, prior to him changing his party status to run on the Democrat ticket. He is the epitiome of what a politician does, that has no real accomplishment or record to run on. He comes out of the gate making all kinds of promises--that he knows with 100% certainty have ZERO chance of making it through the House or Senate. He has exploited the political ignorance of his supporters for campaign donations.

In fact here is his email--after getting clobbered in New York last night to his supporters:

"As you read this, thousands of supporters are responding to tonight’s results with contributions because they believe we can win. I need to know if I can count on you to add yours.

If everybody who has signed up to support our campaign made a $2.70 contribution tonight, we will have the resources we need to do very well next week and to take the pledged delegate lead on June 7.

From the day we started this campaign, the corporate media counted us out. The political establishment and financial elite organized against us. But every great movement in American history faced many of the same obstacles and eventually won because of a simple, timeless human truth: when people come together, when they stand together even through adversity, they win."

And so will we.

In solidarity,

Bernie Sanders

So as we see Sander's is still trying to scorch his supporters for more campaign donations, when he knows that there is absolutely no mathematical possibility of him winning this nomination. Maybe that's why they refer to him as a BUM. But now he's also a sore loser.
Bernie Sanders, The Bum Who Wants Your Money

He should drop out of this race immediately. Hillary Clinton needs to be focused on the General Election, not what's coming out of this loser's mouth.

Once again you exhibit a profound ignorance of what you're talking about even after being corrected on it.

Sanders has been in the Senate since 2007. On what planet is that "25 years"?

And this desperate bleating that "no one has ever heard of him" is just pathetic confirmation of that ignorance. I knew all about him 25 years ago BEFORE I moved to Vermont. But that's because I'm doing things like paying attention.

 

[Pogo]

Saying Bernie should MAN up is sexist & bigoted.

He needs to unisex up

 

[hadit]

Bernie needs to stay in. Democrats need to pretend their voters actually have a choice.

(sorry, I couldn't keep from laughing at that)

 

[Care4all]

The question is whether his primary purpose in continuing his campaign is affecting the public debate and democratic policy and electing a democrat OR stroking his ego. If he continues attacks on Hillary that are more about exciting his crowds that actual substance, e.g. the Wall St speeches, than actual policy differences, he will not be acting constructively.

He is electable. Hillary is not. In the end, he will be the nominee.

He has nearly 3 million LESS VOTES than Hillary and he has 277 LESS pledged delegates.... although he has done way better than anyone has expected, it ain't looking good for him.

Hillary only wins in closed primaries and when fraud is easily perpetrated. Independents won't vote for her. They will vote from Bernie.

Open Primaries are used by both parties, to subvert the true will of each party's members by supporting the opponent's candidate that they believe is least likely to win in the General....

Conservatives voting in Democratic primaries to attain their ultimate goal, and Liberals voting in Republican primaries to attain their ultimate goal....the weakest candidate.

Only the hopelessly cynical would use an open primary like that.

I use it to improve my choices in both parties. For example in 2012 I voted for Jon Huntsman. He would have been a better candidate for the RP. What I'm after is a better menu --- not stacking the deck. That's mindless.

It is mindless, but it is done.... Don't you remember Rush calling for conservative independents to do this....?

 

[bendog]

Sanders has the biggest microphone he has ever had in his life. If you think he is going to walk away from it now, you're very stupid.

Thousands and thousands show up at the rally's....
Then they don't vote for him??

Over 700K voted for him in NY. The folks at his rallies vote for him, assuming they got registered in time. But more are voting for Hillary. Still, Bernie's riding a wave of populism. He's a professional politician getting his huge ego stroked. Nothing wrong with it, so long as he keeps his eyes focused on the goal. The worry from Team Hillary is that since he really isn't a dem, Bernie's goal may not actually be electing a dem.

It isn't. Never has been. Bernie won his first office by unseating an entrenched Democrat. He only joined the Party to run this campaign.

At least once in Vermont, the Democrats and Republicans teamed up and ran a joint-endorsed candidate to try to beat him. He still won.
Anyone who's not a big fan of the Same Old Thing loves that sort of thing. One of the reasons he has the highest approval rating from his constituents of anyone in the Senate.

The question is whether his primary purpose in continuing his campaign is affecting the public debate and democratic policy and electing a democrat OR stroking his ego. If he continues attacks on Hillary that are more about exciting his crowds that actual substance, e.g. the Wall St speeches, than actual policy differences, he will not be acting constructively.

Bernie doesn't have an ego. He's entirely about ideals, always has been.

LOL

 

[Pogo]

He is electable. Hillary is not. In the end, he will be the nominee.

He has nearly 3 million LESS VOTES than Hillary and he has 277 LESS pledged delegates.... although he has done way better than anyone has expected, it ain't looking good for him.

Hillary only wins in closed primaries and when fraud is easily perpetrated. Independents won't vote for her. They will vote from Bernie.

Open Primaries are used by both parties, to subvert the true will of each party's members by supporting the opponent's candidate that they believe is least likely to win in the General....

Conservatives voting in Democratic primaries to attain their ultimate goal, and Liberals voting in Republican primaries to attain their ultimate goal....the weakest candidate.

Only the hopelessly cynical would use an open primary like that.

I use it to improve my choices in both parties. For example in 2012 I voted for Jon Huntsman. He would have been a better candidate for the RP. What I'm after is a better menu --- not stacking the deck. That's mindless.

It is mindless, but it is done.... Don't you remember Rush calling for conservative independents to do this....?

Sure do. But that's the Limblob audience so --- "mindless" clearly applies.

That's a "party" mentality. That's the mentality that looks at all of this as if it's a sports event where "our team" has to beat "their team" by any means it can think of. The same mentality that comes up with a term like "RINO" --- people more interested in a political party than in We the People. Those are the people dragging us down.

 

[bendog]

What's funny and hypocritical is that Bernie wants to go in to the convention with millions less in the popular vote and hundreds less in pledged delegates, and get the Super delegates to change their support for Hillary to HIM, so he can win!

MUCH like scuzzy Ted Cruz wants the delegates to SWITCH their support of Trump, who has more votes and more pledged delegates, to him at the convention.

no difference....

And Sanders supporters call Sanders honest?

Well, it's just that he needs a mathematical justification to stay in. And, there's no real reason for him not to stay in. He's getting his ego stroked, and he'll never have this happen again. And, he can actually do good, if he can bring in new voters for the progressive wing, and push Hill on issues like student debt.

He could also be a troll, however.

 

[Care4all]

Bernie needs to stay in. Democrats need to pretend their voters actually have a choice.

(sorry, I couldn't keep from laughing at that)

What utter bull crud!!!!

Keep tryin'!!!

The voters HAVE SPOKEN, to the tune of nearly 3 million voters picking Hillary over Bernie, and 277 pledged delegates for Hillary over Bernie.

I have no issues with Bernie going to the last primary, but unless some sort of miracle from God happens, he will not even come close to the delegates and votes Hillary has earned in the election process.

 

[Pogo]

What's funny and hypocritical is that Bernie wants to go in to the convention with millions less in the popular vote and hundreds less in pledged delegates, and get the Super delegates to change their support for Hillary to HIM, so he can win!

MUCH like scuzzy Ted Cruz wants the delegates to SWITCH their support of Trump, who has more votes and more pledged delegates, to him at the convention.

no difference....

And Sanders supporters call Sanders honest?

Well, it's just that he needs a mathematical justification to stay in. And, there's no real reason for him not to stay in. He's getting his ego stroked, and he'll never have this happen again. And, he can actually do good, if he can bring in new voters for the progressive wing, and push Hill on issues like student debt.

What did you think the whole point of his candidacy WAS? "Ego"?? Again, Sanders has never worked that way, ever. He didn't even own a suit for much of the time running Burlington. It's all idealism.

That's why it's so baffling to read posters actually suggesting he and Rump have anything in common. The latter's all about ego with no ideals; Sanders is all about ideals with no ego. They're complete opposites of each other.

 

[Markle]

He should not drop out before she gets indicted.

If she is going to be indicted they might as well start an FBI investigation into Colin Powell's and Condi Rice's emails as they have the same email issues.
Rice Aides, Powell Also Got Classified Info on Personal Email Accounts

Hillary Clinton will not be indicted, the state department has repeatedly stated she did nothing wrong. That the 22 emails were marked "classified" by inter agencies of the government long after she received or sent them. This is the exact same issue that Colin Powell and Condi Rice had happen.

You are 100% WRONG about Rice and Powell having the same issues with email as Hillary Clinton. Not even close.

Bill and Hillary Clinton INTENTIONALLY set up a private server to conceal their emails from the scrutiny of the government or the government even storing and protecting those emails.

There were over 1,000 emails, WHICH HAVE BEEN FOUND, that is designated with some level of classification. Do some due diligence. IT DOES NOT MATTER if the document is "marked" classified or not. Employees of the State Department, including Hillary Clinton, receive training so they know what documents are or are not classified. The 22 emails you refer to were ABOVE TOP SECRET. They are so sensitive that they cannot be released even if they are redacted.

The Clinton's desperately needed to keep secret the information they exchanged with their personal slush fund, the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation.

We also cannot know whether or not their personal server was hacked by our enemies. Before you say there were no footprints, you must know that highly sophisticated programs are used by China, Russia, and others which imitate recognized, allowed users. So when the hacker enters the server, it simply leaves a footprint which is identical to one left by Huma, Hillary, Cheryl Mills and others.

 

[bendog]

Bernie needs to stay in. Democrats need to pretend their voters actually have a choice.

(sorry, I couldn't keep from laughing at that)

What utter bull crud!!!!

Keep tryin'!!!

The voters HAVE SPOKEN, to the tune of nearly 3 million voters picking Hillary over Bernie, and 277 pledged delegates for Hillary over Bernie.

I have no issues with Bernie going to the last primary, but unless some sort of miracle from God happens, he will not even come close to the delegates and votes Hillary has earned in the election process.

I believe Hillary stayed in against Obama until June. Of course, she made her peace with him.

 

[OnePercenter]

There's no reason for Sanders to get out. He's getting his message across, and the more people who hear it, the better chance the country has of a major revolt against our corrupt government. Trump is serving up a similar message of revolt, albeit in a much more crude and polarizing way. It's not going to happen this election, but they're laying the groundwork for something potentially very big in 2020.

The biggest threats to the American middle class are Republicans and corporate America, ie; Trump.

 

[Markle]

Bernie needs to stay in. Democrats need to pretend their voters actually have a choice.

(sorry, I couldn't keep from laughing at that)

What utter bull crud!!!!

Keep tryin'!!!

The voters HAVE SPOKEN, to the tune of nearly 3 million voters picking Hillary over Bernie, and 277 pledged delegates for Hillary over Bernie.

I have no issues with Bernie going to the last primary, but unless some sort of miracle from God happens, he will not even come close to the delegates and votes Hillary has earned in the election process.

I doubt that Socialist Bernie Sanders ever had any hope of winning the nomination. I believe he intends to stay until the very end because he wants to push for a prime speaking spot and to force some of his issues, like "FREE" college to be included in the Democrat platform.

 

[Moxie2]

There's no reason for Sanders to get out. He's getting his message across, and the more people who hear it, the better chance the country has of a major revolt against our corrupt government. Trump is serving up a similar message of revolt, albeit in a much more crude and polarizing way. It's not going to happen this election, but they're laying the groundwork for something potentially very big in 2020.

The biggest threats to the American middle class are Republicans and corporate America, ie; Trump.

"Corporate America" built this country my friend.

Neither it, nor Trump are going anywhere.

 

[Care4all]

Sanders was & essentially still is a registered independent. In New York voters registered as independent are not allowed to vote in the Democratic primary.

Hillarys win seems legit right?

Those were the rules and this was done last year...for both Democrats and Republicans in New York, had to register for one of those parties last year...Bernie's team should have had registration drives to convert liberal independents to Democrats back then, I suppose, and Trump's team should have known better and done the same for conservative leaning Independents?

 

[Markle]

Bernie needs to stay in. Democrats need to pretend their voters actually have a choice.

(sorry, I couldn't keep from laughing at that)

What utter bull crud!!!!

Keep tryin'!!!

The voters HAVE SPOKEN, to the tune of nearly 3 million voters picking Hillary over Bernie, and 277 pledged delegates for Hillary over Bernie.

I have no issues with Bernie going to the last primary, but unless some sort of miracle from God happens, he will not even come close to the delegates and votes Hillary has earned in the election process.

I believe Hillary stayed in against Obama until June. Of course, she made her peace with him.

As you know, there was NEVER any peace between the Clinton's and Lame Duck President Obama. Hillary Clinton was appointed Secretary of State due to the old adage that you keep your friends close...and your enemies closer.

 

[Care4all]

Bernie needs to stay in. Democrats need to pretend their voters actually have a choice.

(sorry, I couldn't keep from laughing at that)

What utter bull crud!!!!

Keep tryin'!!!

The voters HAVE SPOKEN, to the tune of nearly 3 million voters picking Hillary over Bernie, and 277 pledged delegates for Hillary over Bernie.

I have no issues with Bernie going to the last primary, but unless some sort of miracle from God happens, he will not even come close to the delegates and votes Hillary has earned in the election process.

I doubt that Socialist Bernie Sanders ever had any hope of winning the nomination. I believe he intends to stay until the very end because he wants to push for a prime speaking spot and to force some of his issues, like "FREE" college to be included in the Democrat platform.

I agree with you. This gives him more negotiating power at the convention.

 

[Care4all]

Bernie needs to stay in. Democrats need to pretend their voters actually have a choice.

(sorry, I couldn't keep from laughing at that)

What utter bull crud!!!!

Keep tryin'!!!

The voters HAVE SPOKEN, to the tune of nearly 3 million voters picking Hillary over Bernie, and 277 pledged delegates for Hillary over Bernie.

I have no issues with Bernie going to the last primary, but unless some sort of miracle from God happens, he will not even come close to the delegates and votes Hillary has earned in the election process.

I believe Hillary stayed in against Obama until June. Of course, she made her peace with him.

As you know, there was NEVER any peace between the Clinton's and Lame Duck President Obama. Hillary Clinton was appointed Secretary of State due to the old adage that you keep your friends close...and your enemies closer.

Actually, there was PEACE between them, I recently read some articles on this and the Clinton State Department team, came in and made peace with all of the Obama teams in the administration....immediately, and they all worked very well together, with no indication what so ever, of disrespect.... in my spare time I'll see if I can find a link for what I had read (might take a couple of days)....I was surprised and thought there would have been friction, but there wasn't.