Ben Franklin's misunderstood quote.

[martybegan]

Another judge, a Trump judge rules against him.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/trump-alien-enemies-act-deportations-unlawful-45de2792

On top of that, the Judge is in Texas.

Probably a RINO, and we know Trump got bad advice on nominees in his first admin.

At least this one went on the merits, even if they did it in a hack way.

 

[hjmick]

Oh... I thought we were going to discuss the whole fish and house guests quote...


Needless to say, I'm disappointed.

 

[pknopp]

Probably a RINO, and we know Trump got bad advice on nominees in his first admin.

At least this one went on the merits, even if they did it in a hack way.

He only picks the best. He said so himself many times.

 

[Leo123]

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

The common misconception is it has to do with sacrificing some freedoms for being protected from harm.

SIEGEL: What's the exact quotation?

WITTES: The exact quotation, which is from a letter that Franklin is believed to have written on behalf of the Pennsylvania General Assembly, reads, those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

SIEGEL: And what was the context of this remark?

WITTES: He was writing about a tax dispute between the Pennsylvania General Assembly and the family of the Penns, the proprietary family of the Pennsylvania colony who ruled it from afar. And the legislature was trying to tax the Penn family lands to pay for frontier defense during the French and Indian War. And the Penn family kept instructing the governor to veto. Franklin felt that this was a great affront to the ability of the legislature to govern. And so he actually meant purchase a little temporary safety very literally. The Penn family was trying to give a lump sum of money in exchange for the General Assembly's acknowledging that it did not have the authority to tax it.


Put in contemporary context, the misconception could be interpreted to mean people who would give their government the right to deny habeas corpus in order to have accused (BUT NOT CONVICTED) men illegally deported to a foreign gulag deserve neither the right to habeas or temporary safety.

 

[luiza]

so berg how many righties minds have your threads changed?.....

Our White mirror image of IQ-2.0

Obsessive and narrow . Obsequious and boring .

Imagine being in a car with it for a long journey .
You would have to push it out .
Splat .

 

[TemplarKormac]

Only a cult member would make such an absurd assertion.

Only a cult member would accuse others of being in cults.

And you, berg? You're in a leftist cult, just like the MAGA one I left behind.

 

[martybegan]

He only picks the best. He said so himself many times.

Guess you still don't get the Trumpian hyperbole.

I prefer it to the soft lying done by the left.

 

[pknopp]

Guess you still don't get the Trumpian hyperbole.

I prefer it to the soft lying done by the left.

You are OK with lying and hyperbole. I'm not.

 

[martybegan]

You are OK with lying and hyperbole. I'm not.

You get lied to by the left all the time, but you take it because it is soft lying.

 

[pknopp]

You get lied to by the left all the time, but you take it because it is soft lying.

You believe the lies of the left.

 

[Lesh]

Only a cult member would accuse others of being in cults.

And you, berg? You're in a leftist cult, just like the MAGA one I left behind.

Sometimes you make sense.

This ain’t one of them

 

[martybegan]

You believe the lies of the left.

I'm saying you tolerate them.

 

[schmidlap]

It's funny (sad) how MAGA has all of a sudden decided to trust the government no matter what it does.

With the exclusion of the judicial branch whenever it exposes its affinity for the U.S. Constitution.

Judges stand firm as Trump ramps up attacks on judiciary

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[pknopp]

I'm saying you tolerate them.

You believe them.

 

[martybegan]

You believe them.

I'm not supposed to believe they want to ban ICE vehicle sales when they say they do?

I'm talking about what they DON'T say as the lie, that their supposed help of the environment does more to make our lives harder than fix anything.

 

[pknopp]

I'm not supposed to believe they want to ban ICE vehicle sales when they say they do?

Well, yeah. Silly to believe that.

I'm talking about what they DON'T say as the lie, that their supposed help of the environment does more to make our lives harder than fix anything.

Kinda a vast generalization.

 

[martybegan]

Well, yeah. Silly to believe that.




Kinda a vast generalization.

They passed actual laws, you thick dunderhead.

it covers what the left does perfectly. All the laws the like to pass in the name of AGW gaia make our lives harder.

 

[pknopp]

They passed actual laws, you thick dunderhead.

For in the future. A future that was never going to happen.

I ask myself how people can be this gullible?

Have you been noticing the new tact Newsome has been taking?

it covers what the left does perfectly. All the laws the like to pass in the name of AGW gaia make our lives harder.

I grew up outside of Cleveland Ohio. The joke was always about how the Cuyahoga River caught on fire.

That this issue has been cleaned up is not a bad thing.

 

[martybegan]

For in the future. A future that was never going to happen.

I ask myself how people can be this gullible?

Have you been noticing the new tact Newsome has been taking?




I grew up outside of Cleveland Ohio. The joke was always about how the Cuyahoga River caught on fire.

That this issue has been cleaned up is not a bad thing.

They passed the laws, they want it to happen.

 

[pknopp]

They passed the laws, they want it to happen.

I want a lot of things............