Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

[Lakhota]

Dr. Ben Carson Doubles Down On Likening Obamacare To Slavery

“You know Obamacare is really I think the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery,” Carson said Friday. “And it is in a way, it is slavery in a way, because it is making all of us subservient to the government, and it was never about health care. It was about control.”

This is antithetical to the original intent of what America was supposed to be. Federal government was there to allow people to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, not to control every aspect of their lives. And we’re sleeping through it. We need to wake the people up.

The American people, we the people are not each other’s enemies. The enemies are those people behind the curtain pulling every string, driving a wedge in every place that they possibly can. Be it race, be it gender, be it age, be it income. Doesn’t matter. If you can keep everybody divided and at each other’s throats and you can throw them off the real issues, then they won’t even noticed that the government is insinuating itself into every part of their life and gradually changing America into something that we don’t want it to be.

Dr. Ben Carson Doubles Down On Likening Obamacare To Slavery

Now, contrast the above with the following:​

The Startling Hypocrisy Of Conservative Icon Dr. Ben Carson

Interesting facts about Dr. Ben Carson, Conservative Icon:

1. raised by a single mother
2. raised in public housing
3. fed with food stamps.
4. supported with welfare was-dependent-on-government
5. kept healthy with medicaid…
6. educated in public schools
7. got eyeglasses from state agency
8. benefited from affirmative action to enter college
9. used federal loans and Pell grants in undergrad school
10. benefited from affirmative action to enter medical school
11. med school paid for with grant from USPHS*
12. said: “The disintegration of the family unit and the welfare state are enslaving African-Americans and ruining their futures.”

Wonkette addressed and sourced the statement above. Read her article HERE.

Dr. Carson is demonizing all of the social programs he has benefited from. Isn’t that the very definition of hypocrisy? How does he not understand that other people can also benefit from social programs? Does he not understand it, or is he trying to earn points with the Tea Party?

It is clear that Dr. Carson is intelligent. It is clear Dr. Carson is a very skilled doctor. What is not clear, at least not to me, is how he can be so completely detached from reality, logic and reason when it pertains basic human rights.

He recently made the claim that the Lord told him to call for a flat tax when he was at the Obama prayer breakfast last year.

He’s retired from his chosen profession as a neurosurgeon. Maybe he should look into being a Walmart greeter and leave the presidency to someone who isn’t hearing imaginary voices.

The Startling Hypocrisy Of Conservative Icon Dr. Ben Carson

I seriously don't think Ben is playing with a full deck. Big government social programs were good for him - but now he condemns those same programs for others who also need a helping hand.

 

[Roudy]

You mad, bro'?

No I am OK are you...?....

I'm fine. I just love taking you secular-progressives down to the mat...........

I am a Christian. I just don't think I have the right to tell others what they should believe or how to act according to my beliefs. And vise - versey. What I do or don't do, is between me & my God. Not you & your God.

If you truly owed allegiance to your country and In God We Trust, you might believe different.

But, that's just you.

I wonder if the koch brothers paid Herman Cain more to push that 999 idea than they paid ben carson to bad mouth Muslims and blacks.

Or maybe they were in a bidding war with the financial pirate George Soros over control of Barack Osama bin Laden?

 

[sealybobo]

You

Glass houses.......throw stones.....I'm not rich, but well off, thanks to my choices before I retired. Thanx for your concern, tho'.

Just comfortable enough and already got yours so now you don't care about what's right.

You baby boomers all got 10% on your savings, had good healthcare, pensions, good ss. You did it under a progressive system. Your parents left you money and you were paid a fair wage. You old phucks ruined this country. Lol

It wasn't a progressive system, fool. It was a mixed system, where the scales tipped towards the balance of capitalism which primarily provided the fuel to fund it.
The average muppet, like yourself, expects the scales to tip in favor of socialism, hoping capitalists can continue to fund it, which won't happen, and try to sell it as a mixed system. Furthur regulations based on liberal social justice memes along with redistribution will prohibit that from happening. Enjoy your pipe dream.........and poverty.
I got a tee time early tomorrow...........

I'll be up at my family property this weekend getting ready for hunting season. I'm going to get a new quadrunners this weekend. Have fun on the city course. Do you get the senior discount?

See, that's the difference between my generation and yours.......you depend on your parents, and fortunately, the system used to be stacked, where my generation could create their own wealth and circumstances. Enjoy mommy and daddys' stuff............Bye.......

Your generation didn't even have to have an education to be successful and if you went to school it was cheap. I'm generation x. I know your generation.

 

[HenryBHough]

What a grand opportunity for you liberals to demonstrate your faith in the wisdom of bringing tens of thousands of refugees into America!

Just sign on right here indicating your willingness to bring one (1, libs) into your home and family. I'll forward the information to an international agency that's pairing up refugees and hosts.

If you fail to sign up then please refrain from commenting as you will have demonstrated your racism and xenophobia.

 

[sealybobo]

Dr. Ben Carson Doubles Down On Likening Obamacare To Slavery

“You know Obamacare is really I think the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery,” Carson said Friday. “And it is in a way, it is slavery in a way, because it is making all of us subservient to the government, and it was never about health care. It was about control.”

This is antithetical to the original intent of what America was supposed to be. Federal government was there to allow people to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, not to control every aspect of their lives. And we’re sleeping through it. We need to wake the people up.

The American people, we the people are not each other’s enemies. The enemies are those people behind the curtain pulling every string, driving a wedge in every place that they possibly can. Be it race, be it gender, be it age, be it income. Doesn’t matter. If you can keep everybody divided and at each other’s throats and you can throw them off the real issues, then they won’t even noticed that the government is insinuating itself into every part of their life and gradually changing America into something that we don’t want it to be.

Dr. Ben Carson Doubles Down On Likening Obamacare To Slavery

Now, contrast the above with the following:​

The Startling Hypocrisy Of Conservative Icon Dr. Ben Carson

Interesting facts about Dr. Ben Carson, Conservative Icon:

1. raised by a single mother
2. raised in public housing
3. fed with food stamps.
4. supported with welfare was-dependent-on-government
5. kept healthy with medicaid…
6. educated in public schools
7. got eyeglasses from state agency
8. benefited from affirmative action to enter college
9. used federal loans and Pell grants in undergrad school
10. benefited from affirmative action to enter medical school
11. med school paid for with grant from USPHS*
12. said: “The disintegration of the family unit and the welfare state are enslaving African-Americans and ruining their futures.”

Wonkette addressed and sourced the statement above. Read her article HERE.

Dr. Carson is demonizing all of the social programs he has benefited from. Isn’t that the very definition of hypocrisy? How does he not understand that other people can also benefit from social programs? Does he not understand it, or is he trying to earn points with the Tea Party?

It is clear that Dr. Carson is intelligent. It is clear Dr. Carson is a very skilled doctor. What is not clear, at least not to me, is how he can be so completely detached from reality, logic and reason when it pertains basic human rights.

He recently made the claim that the Lord told him to call for a flat tax when he was at the Obama prayer breakfast last year.

He’s retired from his chosen profession as a neurosurgeon. Maybe he should look into being a Walmart greeter and leave the presidency to someone who isn’t hearing imaginary voices.

The Startling Hypocrisy Of Conservative Icon Dr. Ben Carson

I seriously don't think Ben is playing with a full deck. Big government social programs were good for him - but now he condemns those same programs for others who also need a helping hand.

Many Republicans are like that and don't even realize it. One day my Republican buddy tells me he went to private Catholic school after his father died. He didn't even realize that was a government program. Republicans always believe they are the one exception.

 

[sealybobo]

What a grand opportunity for you liberals to demonstrate your faith in the wisdom of bringing tens of thousands of refugees into America!

Just sign on right here indicating your willingness to bring one (1, libs) into your home and family. I'll forward the information to an international agency that's pairing up refugees and hosts.

If you fail to sign up then please refrain from commenting as you will have demonstrated your racism and xenophobia.

I agree. I'm a lib and say Muslims stay out.

 

[sealybobo]

Christians brought us 1933 Nazi Germany.

Are you saying Hitler was a Christian?

He certainly was. Hitler professed his Christianity in Mein Kampf, and believed Jesus was a Jew hater.

Hitler: "Christ was nailed to the cross for his intolerance of the Jews".

Hitler eventually evolved to like Islam better than all other faiths. He thought that Arabs were racially inferior to carry out Islam's true potential.

No, he always liked Christianity, first and foremost. Protestantism. He hated Catholicism.

His alliances with the Arab world were political and military relationships based on "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". France had a huge presence in Africa, and France was Hitler's number one target of hate.

Nope. Hitler and his henchmen fell in love with Islam:

Nazi-era Minister of Armaments and War Production Albert Speer acknowledged that in private, Hitler regarded Arabs as an inferior race[225] and that the relationship he had with various Muslim figures was more political than personal.[225] During a meeting with a delegation of distinguished Arab figures, Hitler learned of how Islam motivated the Umayyad Caliphate during the Islamic invasion of Gaul and was now convinced that "the world would be Mohammedan today" if the Arab regime had successfully taken France during the Battle of Tours,[225] while also suggesting to Speer that "ultimately not Arabs, but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

In speeches, Hitler made apparently warm references towards Muslim culture such as: "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France".[226]

According to Speer, Hitler stated in private, "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[225] Speer also stated that when he was discussing with Hitler events which might have occurred had Islam absorbed Europe: "Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

Similarly, Hitler was transcribed as saying: "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers [...] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world."[227]

One day Christians say Nazis were atheists now you blame Islam? The Germans were Catholic Jew haters

 

[Roudy]

Are you saying Hitler was a Christian?

He certainly was. Hitler professed his Christianity in Mein Kampf, and believed Jesus was a Jew hater.

Hitler: "Christ was nailed to the cross for his intolerance of the Jews".

Hitler eventually evolved to like Islam better than all other faiths. He thought that Arabs were racially inferior to carry out Islam's true potential.

No, he always liked Christianity, first and foremost. Protestantism. He hated Catholicism.

His alliances with the Arab world were political and military relationships based on "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". France had a huge presence in Africa, and France was Hitler's number one target of hate.

Nope. Hitler and his henchmen fell in love with Islam:

Nazi-era Minister of Armaments and War Production Albert Speer acknowledged that in private, Hitler regarded Arabs as an inferior race[225] and that the relationship he had with various Muslim figures was more political than personal.[225] During a meeting with a delegation of distinguished Arab figures, Hitler learned of how Islam motivated the Umayyad Caliphate during the Islamic invasion of Gaul and was now convinced that "the world would be Mohammedan today" if the Arab regime had successfully taken France during the Battle of Tours,[225] while also suggesting to Speer that "ultimately not Arabs, but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

In speeches, Hitler made apparently warm references towards Muslim culture such as: "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France".[226]

According to Speer, Hitler stated in private, "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[225] Speer also stated that when he was discussing with Hitler events which might have occurred had Islam absorbed Europe: "Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

Similarly, Hitler was transcribed as saying: "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers [...] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world."[227]

One day Christians say Nazis were atheists now you blame Islam? The Germans were Catholic Jew haters

True. But eventually Hitler and the Nazis navigated towards Islam as the faith that best matches their ideology and one that would help propel their militaristic and imperialistic ambitions.

 

[truthteller]

He certainly was. Hitler professed his Christianity in Mein Kampf, and believed Jesus was a Jew hater.

Hitler: "Christ was nailed to the cross for his intolerance of the Jews".

Hitler eventually evolved to like Islam better than all other faiths. He thought that Arabs were racially inferior to carry out Islam's true potential.

No, he always liked Christianity, first and foremost. Protestantism. He hated Catholicism.

His alliances with the Arab world were political and military relationships based on "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". France had a huge presence in Africa, and France was Hitler's number one target of hate.

Nope. Hitler and his henchmen fell in love with Islam:

Nazi-era Minister of Armaments and War Production Albert Speer acknowledged that in private, Hitler regarded Arabs as an inferior race[225] and that the relationship he had with various Muslim figures was more political than personal.[225] During a meeting with a delegation of distinguished Arab figures, Hitler learned of how Islam motivated the Umayyad Caliphate during the Islamic invasion of Gaul and was now convinced that "the world would be Mohammedan today" if the Arab regime had successfully taken France during the Battle of Tours,[225] while also suggesting to Speer that "ultimately not Arabs, but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

In speeches, Hitler made apparently warm references towards Muslim culture such as: "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France".[226]

According to Speer, Hitler stated in private, "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[225] Speer also stated that when he was discussing with Hitler events which might have occurred had Islam absorbed Europe: "Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

Similarly, Hitler was transcribed as saying: "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers [...] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world."[227]

One day Christians say Nazis were atheists now you blame Islam? The Germans were Catholic Jew haters

True. But eventually Hitler and the Nazis navigated towards Islam as the faith that best matches their ideology and one that would help propel their militaristic and imperialistic ambitions.

No they didnt the Nazis were Christians they considered jews arabs asians and every other nationally besides arian to be sub human. Lets be honest of whats going on you guys are right wing extremists you point out a couple of bad muslims and try to damn all muslims as a political scare tatic game. Your so quick to demonize a whole group of people to justify your racist views. You talk about this thing called shirah law like is actually a threat, american muslims do not believe in shirah law. The only muslims that actually want that is isis and more for a way to control than for religion. Just like american Christians dont murder/smite there wicked in cold blood its the same thing, Christians have a form of shirah law as well. No what we do as americans is follow our constitutional laws, common sense and fair jury by our peers. As for what this thread is about Ben carson, he is obviously misinformed, only educated in medicine his comments continue a dialogue of racial bigotry and fear mongering. Ben carson asking for muslims to renounce shirah law is the same thing as asking ben carson to renounce drugs and murder just because he's black. A blatant uneducated racist statement. Oh and pew is a right wing funded organization any chart they putout can be easily be faked to further a political agenda.

 

[jon_berzerk]

He certainly was. Hitler professed his Christianity in Mein Kampf, and believed Jesus was a Jew hater.

Hitler: "Christ was nailed to the cross for his intolerance of the Jews".

Hitler eventually evolved to like Islam better than all other faiths. He thought that Arabs were racially inferior to carry out Islam's true potential.

No, he always liked Christianity, first and foremost. Protestantism. He hated Catholicism.

His alliances with the Arab world were political and military relationships based on "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". France had a huge presence in Africa, and France was Hitler's number one target of hate.

Nope. Hitler and his henchmen fell in love with Islam:

Nazi-era Minister of Armaments and War Production Albert Speer acknowledged that in private, Hitler regarded Arabs as an inferior race[225] and that the relationship he had with various Muslim figures was more political than personal.[225] During a meeting with a delegation of distinguished Arab figures, Hitler learned of how Islam motivated the Umayyad Caliphate during the Islamic invasion of Gaul and was now convinced that "the world would be Mohammedan today" if the Arab regime had successfully taken France during the Battle of Tours,[225] while also suggesting to Speer that "ultimately not Arabs, but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

In speeches, Hitler made apparently warm references towards Muslim culture such as: "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France".[226]

According to Speer, Hitler stated in private, "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[225] Speer also stated that when he was discussing with Hitler events which might have occurred had Islam absorbed Europe: "Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

Similarly, Hitler was transcribed as saying: "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers [...] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world."[227]

One day Christians say Nazis were atheists now you blame Islam? The Germans were Catholic Jew haters

True. But eventually Hitler and the Nazis navigated towards Islam as the faith that best matches their ideology and one that would help propel their militaristic and imperialistic ambitions.

they are certainly both jew haters

 

[jon_berzerk]

good book on it

Nazis, Islamists, and the Making of the Modern Middle East

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0300140908?tag=usmb-20

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

I'm fine. I just love taking you secular-progressives down to the mat...........

I love insulting and offending Conservatives to the mat you deserve it

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Assumption is your strong suit?

You unfortunately do not have a "strong suit" you a wing nut

 

[Mac1958]

You claim;
"Gay marriage has been considered an abomination for the last two years in the U.S."
Actually, I would say it's been just a tad longer than that. Is that from a secular perspective or a canonical POV you're speaking from? The answer is, obviously, the latter of the two just as with Islamic law, Sharia! The canonical law of a Christian, a Jew and a Muslim are the same in that respect and are held fast by the fundamentalists of those faiths, with some being "more faithful" than others!

You seem afraid, very afraid, of the possibility of Sharia & its Courts here in the US. We may share a common concern, but I'm not as one sided as you seem to be, but lets see! How about Jewish Law Courts and Rabbinical Courts that are already existing here in the US? Do you not fear those religious courts? I don't believe those civil law courts established by fundamentalist Jewry and Mosaic law are in harmony with the establishment clause either, but they exist. So are you going to be just as strident against those EXIXTING JEWISH LAW & COURTS (BETH DIN) AS YOU ARE AGAINST THE NON-EXISTENT ISLAMIC LAW & COURTS (SHARIA) AND PERHAPS SHOW ALL A HYPOCRITICAL, BIGOTED SIDE?

For one's edification:
http://www.nylslawreview.com/wp-con...012/11/NYLS_Law_Review_Volume-57-2.Broyde.pdf
http://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1890&context=ulj

I meant "gay marriage has been considered an abomination for the last TWO HUNDRED YEARS" and rightly so. When you see a priest or rabbi perform a religious marriage ceremony for two men or women, IT IS AN ABOMINATION and an insult to all three faiths, Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. Let them have a different union and call it something else and give them the same exact rights as married couples. But to mock a faith and force it to change it's basic teachings, to me reeks of fascism, which is what radical leftists are really good at.

Shariah law is a barbaric and neanderthal. Take a look at all the areas ISIS has captured, or the Taliban are ruling, that is Shariah law.

Other than in the first line where you admit your error, what the hell does the rest of your rant have to do with the totality of my post to you? Now will you respond to the rest of my original reply or continue to pretend it that what you wrote in the first line was merely a typo?

BTW, "Sharia law" is redundant. Sharia is Islamic law, so it's like saying Islamic law law!

Exactly, Shariah is Islamic law, which is barbaric and intolerant and has been PROVEN to be incompatible with the constitution, freedom Western way of life. Which is why a "devout Muslim" cannot be president, ever. And that's what Carson said.

My initial post to you had nothing to do with your deflection. You don't want to reply to this:

You claim;
""Gay marriage has been considered an abomination for the last two years in the U.S."
Actually, I would say it's been just a tad longer than that. Is that from a secular perspective or a canonical POV you're speaking from? The answer is, obviously, the latter of the two just as with Islamic law, Sharia! The canonical law of a Christian, a Jew and a Muslim are the same in that respect and are held fast by the fundamentalists of those faiths, with some being "more faithful" than others!

You seem afraid, very afraid, of the possibility of Sharia & its Courts here in the US. We may share a common concern, but I'm not as one sided as you seem to be, but lets see! How about Jewish Law Courts and Rabbinical Courts that are already existing here in the US? Do you not fear those religious courts? I don't believe those civil law courts established by fundamentalist Jewry and Mosaic law are in harmony with the establishment clause either, but they exist. So are you going to be just as strident against those EXIXTING JEWISH LAW & COURTS (BETH DIN) AS YOU ARE AGAINST THE NON-EXISTENT ISLAMIC LAW & COURTS (SHARIA) AND PERHAPS SHOW ALL A HYPOCRITICAL, BIGOTED SIDE?"

For one's edification:
http://www.nylslawreview.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/2012/11/NYLS_Law_Review_Volume-57-2.Broyde.pdf
http://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1890&context=ulj
"
So will you continue to deflect from the points made above for a third time or address them?

Deflect what, Shariah law is burning down the middle east, and slaughtering hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Again, not all religions are equal:

The PC Police are (predictably) spinning for the PC-protected religion, pretending that they have NO IDEA why ANYONE would EVER have even a MOMENT'S pause about devout Muslims. Not one.

This is being obtuse in the extreme, they're choosing to be screamingly dishonest, and it's a waste of time trying to play that game.
.

 

[Campbell]

In other words, it's plain common sense. Muslims view America as the enemy.

Was Carson talking about Muslims that live in the ME? FYI, Muslims that live in America are American citizens.......and unless you can provide some facts (and not some fabricated myth from Briebart NN source) proving that every Muslim views America as the enemy, you are full of corn flakes.

Brother Ben defends his comment by saying the Muslims believe homosexuals must be killed. Surprise, Surprise:


There are 42 death penalty sins in the Old Testament:

1. Murder. Genesis 9:6.
2. Failing to circumcize. Genesis 17:14.
3. Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15, 19.
4. Smiting parents. Exodus 21:15.
5. Kidnapping. Exodus 21:16.
6. Cursing parents. Exodus 21:17.
7. Negligence with animals that kill. Exodus 21:28-32.
8. Witchcraft. Exodus 22:18.
9. Bestiality. Exodus 22:19.
10. Idolatry. Exodus 22:20.
11. Making holy anointing oil without authorization. Exodus 30:33.
12. Putting holy anointing oil on strangers. Exodus 30:33.
13. Making the holy perfume without being commanded to do so. Exodus 30:38.
14. Defiling the Sabbath. Exodus 31:14.
15. Working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
16. Eating the flesh of the peace offering in uncleanness. Leviticus 7:20-21.
17. Eating the fat of sacrifices. Leviticus 7:25.
18. Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the Tabernacle. Leviticus 17:1-9.
19. Eating blood. Leviticus 17:10-14.
20. Incest. Leviticus 18:6-29.
21. Eating sacrifices at the wrong time. Leviticus 19:5-8.
22. Consecration of children to idols. Leviticus 20:1-5.
23. Spiritualism. Leviticus 20:6, 27.
24. Adultery. Leviticus 20:10.
25. Men lying with men in religious prostitution. Leviticus 20:13.
26. Relationship with a menstrous woman. Leviticus 20:18.
27. Whoredom. Leviticus 21:9.
28. Sacrilege. Leviticus 22:3.
29. Refusing to fast on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:29.
30. Working on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:30.
31. Blasphemy. Leviticus 24:24:11-16.
32. Failure to keep the Passover. Numbers 9:13.
33. Presumptous sins. Numbers 15:30-31.
34. Gathering fire-wood on the Sabbath. Numbers 15:32-36.
35. Failure to purify one's self before worship. Numbers 19:13, 20.
36. False prophesy. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.
37. Leading mean away from God. Deuteronomy 13:6-18.
38. Backsliding. Deuteronomy 17:2-7.
39. Stubbornness and rebellion. Deuteronomy 21:18-23.
40. Gluttony. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
41. Drunkenness. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
42. False dreams and visions. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.

 

[sealybobo]

He certainly was. Hitler professed his Christianity in Mein Kampf, and believed Jesus was a Jew hater.

Hitler: "Christ was nailed to the cross for his intolerance of the Jews".

Hitler eventually evolved to like Islam better than all other faiths. He thought that Arabs were racially inferior to carry out Islam's true potential.

No, he always liked Christianity, first and foremost. Protestantism. He hated Catholicism.

His alliances with the Arab world were political and military relationships based on "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". France had a huge presence in Africa, and France was Hitler's number one target of hate.

Nope. Hitler and his henchmen fell in love with Islam:

Nazi-era Minister of Armaments and War Production Albert Speer acknowledged that in private, Hitler regarded Arabs as an inferior race[225] and that the relationship he had with various Muslim figures was more political than personal.[225] During a meeting with a delegation of distinguished Arab figures, Hitler learned of how Islam motivated the Umayyad Caliphate during the Islamic invasion of Gaul and was now convinced that "the world would be Mohammedan today" if the Arab regime had successfully taken France during the Battle of Tours,[225] while also suggesting to Speer that "ultimately not Arabs, but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

In speeches, Hitler made apparently warm references towards Muslim culture such as: "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France".[226]

According to Speer, Hitler stated in private, "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[225] Speer also stated that when he was discussing with Hitler events which might have occurred had Islam absorbed Europe: "Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

Similarly, Hitler was transcribed as saying: "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers [...] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world."[227]

One day Christians say Nazis were atheists now you blame Islam? The Germans were Catholic Jew haters

True. But eventually Hitler and the Nazis navigated towards Islam as the faith that best matches their ideology and one that would help propel their militaristic and imperialistic ambitions.

Ben carson is back peddling on this subject. Will you?

 

[playtime]

Never said they can't have the same RIGHTS as married couples. Why don't they call it a civil union and leave the world alone. But no, they want to stomp and insult people's faiths as well. They have the "right".

Marriage isn't owned by any one religion. "Marriage" is just a word to describe two people that have vowed before the courts that they are committed to each other and under the rules of being wedded.....it's not magically "spiritual", especially when so many like Rush Limbaugh and Donald Trump don't even take the word "marriage" seriously. I don't see conservatives denouncing Limbaugh for making a mockery of marriage....so I presume that it is all feigned sanctimony for those that abhor homosexuality.

Marriage is the union of a reproductive unit: a man and a woman. Your belief that that the sex of the members is irrelevant is absurd.

The Constitution says otherwise.

neener neener

 

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In other words, it's plain common sense. Muslims view America as the enemy.

Was Carson talking about Muslims that live in the ME? FYI, Muslims that live in America are American citizens.......and unless you can provide some facts (and not some fabricated myth from Briebart NN source) proving that every Muslim views America as the enemy, you are full of corn flakes.

Brother Ben defends his comment by saying the Muslims believe homosexuals must be killed. Surprise, Surprise:


There are 42 death penalty sins in the Old Testament:

1. Murder. Genesis 9:6.
2. Failing to circumcize. Genesis 17:14.
3. Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15, 19.
4. Smiting parents. Exodus 21:15.
5. Kidnapping. Exodus 21:16.
6. Cursing parents. Exodus 21:17.
7. Negligence with animals that kill. Exodus 21:28-32.
8. Witchcraft. Exodus 22:18.
9. Bestiality. Exodus 22:19.
10. Idolatry. Exodus 22:20.
11. Making holy anointing oil without authorization. Exodus 30:33.
12. Putting holy anointing oil on strangers. Exodus 30:33.
13. Making the holy perfume without being commanded to do so. Exodus 30:38.
14. Defiling the Sabbath. Exodus 31:14.
15. Working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
16. Eating the flesh of the peace offering in uncleanness. Leviticus 7:20-21.
17. Eating the fat of sacrifices. Leviticus 7:25.
18. Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the Tabernacle. Leviticus 17:1-9.
19. Eating blood. Leviticus 17:10-14.
20. Incest. Leviticus 18:6-29.
21. Eating sacrifices at the wrong time. Leviticus 19:5-8.
22. Consecration of children to idols. Leviticus 20:1-5.
23. Spiritualism. Leviticus 20:6, 27.
24. Adultery. Leviticus 20:10.
25. Men lying with men in religious prostitution. Leviticus 20:13.
26. Relationship with a menstrous woman. Leviticus 20:18.
27. Whoredom. Leviticus 21:9.
28. Sacrilege. Leviticus 22:3.
29. Refusing to fast on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:29.
30. Working on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:30.
31. Blasphemy. Leviticus 24:24:11-16.
32. Failure to keep the Passover. Numbers 9:13.
33. Presumptous sins. Numbers 15:30-31.
34. Gathering fire-wood on the Sabbath. Numbers 15:32-36.
35. Failure to purify one's self before worship. Numbers 19:13, 20.
36. False prophesy. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.
37. Leading mean away from God. Deuteronomy 13:6-18.
38. Backsliding. Deuteronomy 17:2-7.
39. Stubbornness and rebellion. Deuteronomy 21:18-23.
40. Gluttony. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
41. Drunkenness. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
42. False dreams and visions. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.

But look at everything else that the OT pretty much says everyone must die for. Homogay sex isn't any worse than adultery or gluttony. Oxyboy Limbaugh should be a dead man twice.

 

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No I am OK are you...?....

I'm fine. I just love taking you secular-progressives down to the mat...........

I am a Christian. I just don't think I have the right to tell others what they should believe or how to act according to my beliefs. And vise - versey. What I do or don't do, is between me & my God. Not you & your God.

If you truly owed allegiance to your country and In God We Trust, you might believe different.

But, that's just you.

You... & what you think.... don't matter at all to me.

I'm okay with that......

That doesn't matter either.

 

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In other words, it's plain common sense. Muslims view America as the enemy.

Was Carson talking about Muslims that live in the ME? FYI, Muslims that live in America are American citizens.......and unless you can provide some facts (and not some fabricated myth from Briebart NN source) proving that every Muslim views America as the enemy, you are full of corn flakes.

Brother Ben defends his comment by saying the Muslims believe homosexuals must be killed. Surprise, Surprise:


There are 42 death penalty sins in the Old Testament:

1. Murder. Genesis 9:6.
2. Failing to circumcize. Genesis 17:14.
3. Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15, 19.
4. Smiting parents. Exodus 21:15.
5. Kidnapping. Exodus 21:16.
6. Cursing parents. Exodus 21:17.
7. Negligence with animals that kill. Exodus 21:28-32.
8. Witchcraft. Exodus 22:18.
9. Bestiality. Exodus 22:19.
10. Idolatry. Exodus 22:20.
11. Making holy anointing oil without authorization. Exodus 30:33.
12. Putting holy anointing oil on strangers. Exodus 30:33.
13. Making the holy perfume without being commanded to do so. Exodus 30:38.
14. Defiling the Sabbath. Exodus 31:14.
15. Working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
16. Eating the flesh of the peace offering in uncleanness. Leviticus 7:20-21.
17. Eating the fat of sacrifices. Leviticus 7:25.
18. Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the Tabernacle. Leviticus 17:1-9.
19. Eating blood. Leviticus 17:10-14.
20. Incest. Leviticus 18:6-29.
21. Eating sacrifices at the wrong time. Leviticus 19:5-8.
22. Consecration of children to idols. Leviticus 20:1-5.
23. Spiritualism. Leviticus 20:6, 27.
24. Adultery. Leviticus 20:10.
25. Men lying with men in religious prostitution. Leviticus 20:13.
26. Relationship with a menstrous woman. Leviticus 20:18.
27. Whoredom. Leviticus 21:9.
28. Sacrilege. Leviticus 22:3.
29. Refusing to fast on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:29.
30. Working on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:30.
31. Blasphemy. Leviticus 24:24:11-16.
32. Failure to keep the Passover. Numbers 9:13.
33. Presumptous sins. Numbers 15:30-31.
34. Gathering fire-wood on the Sabbath. Numbers 15:32-36.
35. Failure to purify one's self before worship. Numbers 19:13, 20.
36. False prophesy. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.
37. Leading mean away from God. Deuteronomy 13:6-18.
38. Backsliding. Deuteronomy 17:2-7.
39. Stubbornness and rebellion. Deuteronomy 21:18-23.
40. Gluttony. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
41. Drunkenness. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
42. False dreams and visions. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.

But look at everything else that the OT pretty much says everyone must die for. Homogay sex isn't any worse than adultery or gluttony. Oxyboy Limbaugh should be a dead man twice.

Stop thinking being gay is immoral, wrong or a sin. It is not. It's natural and thinking its wrong is wrong.