Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

[Vigilante]

It seems muslim men have a HOMOSEXUAL PERVERSION with young muslim boys.... the dirty little secret why DemocRATS and their pedophile allies NEVER say anything derogatory about the muslim religion?.....Makes one wonder! Even from that bastion of MSM liberalism, the N.Y. Times!

• U.S. Soldiers Told to Ignore Afghan Allies’ Abuse of Boys
  The New York Times ^ | 20 Sept 2015 | Joseph Goldstein
  In his last phone call home, Lance Cpl. Gregory Buckley Jr. told his father what was troubling him: From his bunk in southern Afghanistan, he could hear Afghan police officers sexually abusing boys they had brought to the base. “At night we can hear them screaming, but we’re not allowed to do anything about it,” the Marine’s father, Gregory Buckley Sr., recalled his son telling him before he was shot to death at the base in 2012. He urged his son to tell his superiors. “My son said that his officers told him to look the other way because it’s...

Another note of interest.....

John Quincy Adams on Islam

In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar, the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust, by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE.

Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. That war is yet flagrant; nor can it cease but by the extinction of that imposture, which has been permitted by Providence to prolong the degeneracy of man. While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men. The hand of Ishmael will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him. It is, indeed, amongst the mysterious dealings of God, that this delusion should have been suffered for so many ages, and during so many generations of human kind, to prevail over the doctrines of the meek and peaceful and benevolent Jesus (Blunt, 1830, 29:269, capitals in orig.).

Men on the Right are obsessed with anal and sex with young boys.

Is that why MOST GAYS are DemocRATs? And why you DemocRATs refuse to acknowledge the muslim pedophiles that seem to run rampant in Afghanistan & Pakistan?

 

[Avatar4321]

Leftwingers are the ones who don't have a problem with Sharia. They keep telling us that Islam should be treated with respect.

The Right has its own ideas for a Sharia of their own .. Christian Sharia.

Over 200 years of US history we see no sign of a Christian Sharia.

The left tries to constantly fraudulently equivocate Islam and Islamic behavior with Christianity. That pig won't fly.

Plenty of signs.. Do you remember how long gay marriage was banned for? How one party wants to control women's bodies? Keep gays out of the military? Women?

Gay marriage has been considered an abomination for the last two years in the U.S. And before that for 5000 years. Are you seriously complaining THAT to the barbarism in Shariah law? Ho ho ho what a ******* moron.

Who considers it an abomination other then Christian fundie nutters? The majority of the American public supports it now, the sky isn't falling, the bigots lost. I wonder how scared you would be if I showed you a photo of a gay couple kissing..

If a majority supported it, you would have taken it to a ballot box instead of a group of unelected judges.

 

[Avatar4321]

Gay marriage has been considered an abomination for the last two years in the U.S. And before that for 5000 years. Are you seriously complaining THAT to the barbarism in Shariah law? Ho ho ho what a ******* moron.

Who considers it an abomination other then Christian fundie nutters? The majority of the American public supports it now, the sky isn't falling, the bigots lost. I wonder how scared you would be if I showed you a photo of a gay couple kissing..

Gay marriage is a recent phenomenon forced down the throats of an unwilling public by bullies and leftist fascists who are trying to impose their warped ideological vision of social engineering upon Western civilization.

And yet you compare THAT to the barbarism of the Shariah shitholes we see across the Islamic world. Take a hike.

In other words we compare something don't like with something you do like, and you say we can't compare the two.

In other words it's a false comparison. Most of the countries living under Shariah law are barbaric shitholes of intolerance and persecution. While most Christian nations are tolerant democracies.

Yes, Sharia Law countries are not great places for freedom, human rights, democracy etc.

However saying that in one sentence, then saying that the US should take away human rights and freedom from Americans doesn't exactly make your case for freedom and Human Rights any better, does it?

How does an individual choosing not to advocate for a certain group with different values to have political power take away anyone's human rights?

I would oppose and vote against any person who promotes values I don't care for. That doesn't mean I'm violating their human rights. The idea that a democrat would be violating the human rights of a republican and vice versa simply because they oppose each other is absurd.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I've been saying it, the GOP is truly ******* insane.
Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

A supporter at a Donald Trump created quite a stir on Thursday when, among other incendiary remarks, he falsely claimed President Obama was a Muslim.

But the comment raises an interesting question: What if it were true? Why should it matter if Obama was a Muslim?

On Meet The Press, Chuck Todd posed that exact question to Ben Carson, the retired neurosurgeon who is closely trailing Trump in the polls. Carson said he would not support a Muslim president and that only candidates with a faith “consistent with the Constitution” should be President.

CHUCK TODD: Let me wrap this up by finally dealing with what’s been going on, Donald Trump, and a deal with a questioner that claimed that the president was Muslim. Let me ask you the question this way. Should a President’s faith matter? Should your faith matter to voters?

BEN CARSON: Well, I guess it depends on what that faith is. If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and consistent with the constitution, no problem.

TODD: So do you believe that Islam is consistent with the constitution?

CARSON: No, I don’t, I do not.

TODD: So you–

CARSON: I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.

You're a ******* tool propagandist.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Who considers it an abomination other then Christian fundie nutters? The majority of the American public supports it now, the sky isn't falling, the bigots lost. I wonder how scared you would be if I showed you a photo of a gay couple kissing..

Gay marriage is a recent phenomenon forced down the throats of an unwilling public by bullies and leftist fascists who are trying to impose their warped ideological vision of social engineering upon Western civilization.

And yet you compare THAT to the barbarism of the Shariah shitholes we see across the Islamic world. Take a hike.

In other words we compare something don't like with something you do like, and you say we can't compare the two.

In other words it's a false comparison. Most of the countries living under Shariah law are barbaric shitholes of intolerance and persecution. While most Christian nations are tolerant democracies.

Yes, Sharia Law countries are not great places for freedom, human rights, democracy etc.

However saying that in one sentence, then saying that the US should take away human rights and freedom from Americans doesn't exactly make your case for freedom and Human Rights any better, does it?

How does an individual choosing not to advocate for a certain group with different values to have political power take away anyone's human rights?

I would oppose and vote against any person who promotes values I don't care for. That doesn't mean I'm violating their human rights. The idea that a democrat would be violating the human rights of a republican and vice versa simply because they oppose each other is absurd.

Choose to doesn't do anything. Acting upon this choice, ESPECIALLY when working for the US govt, does.

I'm not talking about voting against someone taking away their Human Rights, I don't know where you got that from.

The point I'm making is that if you're going against the Human Rights by advocating, say, preventing gay people getting married, then there's not much difference between you and someone under Sharia that also stops gay people getting married.

Either you're for Human Rights or you're not. You can't pick and choose whichever suit your agenda.

 

[Statistikhengst]

I remember when right wingers were saying that about John F. Kennedy. They felt he would answer to the Pope over American interests.

Yepp. It was 1928 all over again, only this time, the Catholic Democrat won.

 

[Statistikhengst]

He's right, as we can see, Islam is incompatible with freedom and democracy.

I agree with you that the tenets of Islam in no way are compatible with Democracy and/or any form of tolerance, for Islam itself in it's purest form is extremely intolerant, brutal, hateful and primitive, in my book.

But this doesn't mean that an American Muslim should be disqualified from running for President. Let him or her run and let the voters decide. As soon as we start excluding groups from participating in events like this just because we do not like what they stand for, then we would not be much different than the fascists of the 1930s. We should have at least a little trust in the American voter and if we don't, then maybe America is not worth "saving", from, well, whatever.

 

[Statistikhengst]

I think it's pretty obvious that Carson said what he said because he wants to out-Trump Trump.
With his statement, Carson won over some of the hardest of the hard-right base of the GOP.
This may be Carson's "self-deportation" moment...

 

[Statistikhengst]

Hard to believe the top two republicans are bigots

And the party core supports them

Shocking, eh?

 

[Statistikhengst]

Ben Carson seems like a decent person

But you just have to scratch him to find the racist

And his denial of basic biology.

I'm fairly confident he knows more about biology than most people ever know.

What are his views on evolution?

Don't really care.

Yes, I figured you would run away from that one.

When confronted with facts, Righties turn into pussies. They run for the hills.

Thank you very much for confirming what we have already witnessed hundreds and hundreds of times over in USMB.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Hard to believe the top two republicans are bigots

And the party core supports them

Shocking, eh?

But Carsons blacks. I thought black people can't be bigots!

 

[Statistikhengst]

Well thankfully the American people rejected that kolobian nut case in 2012

It's really sad you dont realize that the Marxist we have in charge now is the nut case.

Do you actually believe that? Ben Carson inferred that Muslims shouldn't be able to hold office, the interview is clear on this. Obama is not a Marxist, why would a Marxist let the stock market grow? Why would a Marxist help businesses? Why would a Marxist be religious? The delusional and paranoid right never ceases to amaze me.

He said he wouldn't advocate for one to be president.

And he isn't religious. He only wrote an entire book on obtaining the dreams from his father who was an avid Marxist. He was raised by Marxists. He appoints open Marxists to his administration and quotes Marxists. You'd have to be completely blind to conclude he isn't a Marxist.

Read over his quotes and understand the inference. Obama is a Christian, 7 years of right wing fear mongering and conspiracy theories will not change that. You have no idea what a Marxist is, let alone an understanding of obamas life. What Marxists are in his administration? What Marxists does he quote? Who cares if he likes things his father did? That doesn't make him a Marxist. The fear and delusions you right wing morons spew is hilarious. Keep it up.

Liberation theology has nothing to do with Christianity.

Neither does Dominionism/7 Hills theology, but Righties gulp that rhetorical jizz all the time and are just determined that that is THE way.

LOL!

 

[Avatar4321]

Ben Carson seems like a decent person

But you just have to scratch him to find the racist

And his denial of basic biology.

I'm fairly confident he knows more about biology than most people ever know.

What are his views on evolution?

Don't really care.

Yes, I figured you would run away from that one.

When confronted with facts, Righties turn into pussies. They run for the hills.

Thank you very much for confirming what we have already witnessed hundreds and hundreds of times over in USMB.

And when progressives can't deal with facts they change the subject and name call. So I can't say I'm shocked

 

[Statistikhengst]

I've been saying it, the GOP is truly ******* insane.
Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

A supporter at a Donald Trump created quite a stir on Thursday when, among other incendiary remarks, he falsely claimed President Obama was a Muslim.

But the comment raises an interesting question: What if it were true? Why should it matter if Obama was a Muslim?

On Meet The Press, Chuck Todd posed that exact question to Ben Carson, the retired neurosurgeon who is closely trailing Trump in the polls. Carson said he would not support a Muslim president and that only candidates with a faith “consistent with the Constitution” should be President.

CHUCK TODD: Let me wrap this up by finally dealing with what’s been going on, Donald Trump, and a deal with a questioner that claimed that the president was Muslim. Let me ask you the question this way. Should a President’s faith matter? Should your faith matter to voters?

BEN CARSON: Well, I guess it depends on what that faith is. If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and consistent with the constitution, no problem.

TODD: So do you believe that Islam is consistent with the constitution?

CARSON: No, I don’t, I do not.

TODD: So you–

CARSON: I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.

In other words, it's plain common sense. Muslims view America as the enemy. They despise everything American stands for. Only the insane would vote for a Muslim.

This is plain delusional ignorance and hate.

There are millions of American Muslims who love their country and are loyal citizens.

Millions more around the world harbor no ill will toward the United States, there is nothing in Muslim doctrine or dogma which mandates 'hating' America – you're confusing politics with religion, where there are some Muslims who oppose American foreign policy for political reasons, having nothing to do with Islam, and have sought to misappropriate and exploit Islam to realize their political objectives with regard to the United States; these Muslims hostile to America are not 'representative' of all Muslims, or of Islam, and to argue otherwise fails as a composition fallacy.

What would be insane is to not vote for someone for president for no other reason than being Muslim.

It is true that there are indeed millions of American Muslims who love their country, but Islam itself, in it's purest form, is indeed a problem. And I disagree with your statement about Muslims around the world. Most of them hate us, and quite voiciferously at that. Islam must reform itself with a deep inner discussion, just as Christianity did with Luther's 95 theses, just as Judaism did at the turn of the 20th century. It's time to Islam to come out of it's infancy and shed it's barbarism. Until it does, Islam is a threat to all who love freedom and real peace. Islamic terrorists don't "pervert" Islam. They take it's teachings completely literally, as do so many fundie Christians with Christianity in the USA.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Obama's ring: 'There is no god but Allah'
He's worn band on wedding-ring finger since before he met Michelle

Read more at Obama’s ring: ‘There is no god but Allah’

How many Christians would be wearing a RING since, at least 1981 by available pictures that states....'There is no god but Allah'

Admits he's a muslim on video, wears a ring dedicated to allah.... mighty convincing evidence!

World Net Daily has been wrong so often, is that all you've got?
Why the crap against Obama, he's only got 15 months left in office?

Oh, I remember that one. I was debunked FIVE years ago. Vagisil is a little behind the times. I think he cholostomy bag broke. He's writing lots of stinky shit.

 

[Statistikhengst]

And his denial of basic biology.

I'm fairly confident he knows more about biology than most people ever know.

What are his views on evolution?

Don't really care.

Yes, I figured you would run away from that one.

When confronted with facts, Righties turn into pussies. They run for the hills.

Thank you very much for confirming what we have already witnessed hundreds and hundreds of times over in USMB.

And when progressives can't deal with facts they change the subject and name call. So I can't say I'm shocked

So, you, the great educated one, still do not know Carson's stand on evolution, which is a science, btw....

 

[Avatar4321]

I'm fairly confident he knows more about biology than most people ever know.

What are his views on evolution?

Don't really care.

Yes, I figured you would run away from that one.

When confronted with facts, Righties turn into pussies. They run for the hills.

Thank you very much for confirming what we have already witnessed hundreds and hundreds of times over in USMB.

And when progressives can't deal with facts they change the subject and name call. So I can't say I'm shocked

So, you, the great educated one, still do not know Carson's stand on evolution, which is a science, btw....

Like I said, I don't care about his view on evolution. There is far more to biology than evolution and he has demonstrated throughout his lifetime that he understands it quite well.

Why do you presume evolution is at all relevant to competent leadership and skill?

 

[Statistikhengst]

What are his views on evolution?

Don't really care.

Yes, I figured you would run away from that one.

When confronted with facts, Righties turn into pussies. They run for the hills.

Thank you very much for confirming what we have already witnessed hundreds and hundreds of times over in USMB.

And when progressives can't deal with facts they change the subject and name call. So I can't say I'm shocked

So, you, the great educated one, still do not know Carson's stand on evolution, which is a science, btw....

Like I said, I don't care about his view on evolution. There is far more to biology than evolution and he has demonstrated throughout his lifetime that he understands it quite well.

Why do you presume evolution is at all relevant to competent leadership and skill?

Thank you for answering that question: I would consider voting for a Republican who:

1.) doesn't judge people by their faith
2.) realizes that evolution is indeed a science - and that the theory has been proven to be quite real and true and must not necessarily collide with any holy writs.
3.) would actually have a jobs plan that works.

So, yeah, that kind of disqualifies every Republican out there.

 

[Roudy]

Gay marriage has been considered an abomination for the last two years in the U.S. And before that for 5000 years. Are you seriously complaining THAT to the barbarism in Shariah law? Ho ho ho what a ******* moron.

Who considers it an abomination other then Christian fundie nutters? The majority of the American public supports it now, the sky isn't falling, the bigots lost. I wonder how scared you would be if I showed you a photo of a gay couple kissing..

Gay marriage is a recent phenomenon forced down the throats of an unwilling public by bullies and leftist fascists who are trying to impose their warped ideological vision of social engineering upon Western civilization.

And yet you compare THAT to the barbarism of the Shariah shitholes we see across the Islamic world. Take a hike.

In other words we compare something don't like with something you do like, and you say we can't compare the two.

In other words it's a false comparison. Most of the countries living under Shariah law are barbaric shitholes of intolerance and persecution. While most Christian nations are tolerant democracies.

Yes, Sharia Law countries are not great places for freedom, human rights, democracy etc.

However saying that in one sentence, then saying that the US should take away human rights and freedom from Americans doesn't exactly make your case for freedom and Human Rights any better, does it?

Shariah takes away human rights and that's basically what Ben Carson correctly noted.

 

[Roudy]

He's right, as we can see, Islam is incompatible with freedom and democracy.

I agree with you that the tenets of Islam in no way are compatible with Democracy and/or any form of tolerance, for Islam itself in it's purest form is extremely intolerant, brutal, hateful and primitive, in my book.

But this doesn't mean that an American Muslim should be disqualified from running for President. Let him or her run and let the voters decide. As soon as we start excluding groups from participating in events like this just because we do not like what they stand for, then we would not be much different than the fascists of the 1930s. We should have at least a little trust in the American voter and if we don't, then maybe America is not worth "saving", from, well, whatever.

Agreed. Even a Satanist can run.