Belichick not a 1st ballot HOFer

[pknopp]

As a 6th round pick, few would have given Brady a chance except for some mop up duties
If given a choice between Brady and Bledsoe, almost everyone would take Bledsoe

Bledsoe got hurt.

 

[pknopp]

If Brady isn't drafted by NE and Bledsoe doesn't get hurt you wouldn't know Tom's name.

Brock Purdy was picked with the last pick.

 

[leftwinger]

As a 6th round pick, few would have given Brady a chance except for some mop up duties
If given a choice between Brady and Bledsoe, almost everyone would take Bledsoe

The track record is about 50-50 on even first rounders. I hope they are getting better these expert draft boards. I can do 50-50 without leaving my house.

Brady, Purdy, Montana? Plunkett? I could go on. Should have had all these cheese headed clowns fired.

 

[Couchpotato]

Brock Purdy was picked with the last pick.

On average 5-8 QBs are drafted every year. Guess how many become starters. A large part of any players success is who drafts them. If Trey Lance and Jimmy G don’t get hurt Purdy doesn’t start in week 14 3 years ago and we aren’t talking about Purdy

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Sources: Bill Belichick will not be a first-ballot Hall of Famer

Bill Belichick, the eight-time Super Bowl-winning coach, will not be a first-ballot Hall of Famer, sources told ESPN.

www.espn.com

WTF. If Belichick isn’t no coach is

Crazy.

I'm joking here (mostly).. but man, watching Belichek be imasculated and controlled by his young girlfriend was super cringe. Here you had a respected leader of men, a man who led some of the greatest athletes to the highest of highs.. to be leashed and shushed. I lost most respect for him watching that interview he did. I seriously wonder if that crept into some of the voters minds.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

No the voters punished him for always being a dick to them. The decision to keep him out wasn’t football related.

The same things goes for baseball and:
1. Albert Belle
2. Pete Rose
3. Barry Bonds

Media HOF voters are some of the most petty, insecure people on planet earth. They're like the umpire who wants to make the game about themselves.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

If Brady isn't drafted by NE and Bledsoe doesn't get hurt you wouldn't know Tom's name.

Likely the same thing happens on the St Louis Cardinals.

If Trent Green doesn't get injured, Kurt Warner never sees a snap, and no Greatest show on Turf ever happens.

 

[Couchpotato]

The same things goes for baseball and:
1. Albert Belle
2. Pete Rose
3. Barry Bonds

Media HOF voters are some of the most petty, insecure people on planet earth. They're like the umpire who wants to make the game about themselves.

To be fair Rose was banned by the commissioner and Bonds was a ridiculous cheater who still won’t admit it.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

To be fair Rose was banned by the commissioner

Yea by Giamatti in 1989. It could have been overturned by the snap of the fingers by Vincent, Selig, or Manfred. Plus, all the sports writers were piling onto the ban. They didn't like that Rose didn't kiss their ass.

and Bonds was a ridiculous cheater who still won’t admit it.

Yet was one of the greatest things to ever happen to baseball, and the league/media are culpable... because they didn't say much while it happened, made the money from Bonds name as halted the sports world at every AB on his way to 73 HR's, and then once he winded down and retired they cut him loose and denounced him.

 

[JoeMoma]

He was a dick to everyone.

Maybe not to a certain young lafy.

 

[citygator]

Brady would have had a career as a backup QB without Bill

You can’t really know that. But you can know how Bill did without Tom and how Tom did without Bill.

Of them won another Super Bowl. The other is coaching mostly losses at UNC.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

You can’t really know that. But you can know how Bill did without Tom and how Tom did without Bill.

Of them won another Super Bowl. The other is coaching mostly losses at UNC.

Can we not act like Tom Brady picked up the Buccaneers by their boot straps and dragged them to success? Brady played very well, but they had an elite defense with tons of weapons. They were 12-4 the year before he got there, and were 11-5 his first year there. The 2021 team that won the super bowl he had the 5th best scoring defense in the league. Just stop.

 

[citygator]

Can we not act like Tom Brady picked up the Buccaneers by their boot straps and dragged them to success? Brady played very well, but they had an elite defense with tons of weapons. They were 12-4 the year before he got there, and were 11-5 his first year there. The 2021 team that won the super bowl he had the 5th best scoring defense in the league. Just stop.

Had to look it up but his Tampa playoff run:

• Brady: 3 road wins
• Beat Brees → Rodgers → Mahomes
• Super Bowl passer rating: 125.8

Not bad.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Had to look it up but his Tampa playoff run:

• Brady: 3 road wins
• Beat Brees → Rodgers → Mahomes
• Super Bowl passer rating: 125.8

Not bad.

Nobody said he was bad. But he went to a Super Bowl contending team. You made it sound like he was the reason Tampa Bay got good.

Meanwhile, "He" did not beat other QB's.. his team did. This whole "QB's play 1 on 1" thing is retarded. Brady had one of the best defenses in the league.

Those are super cherry-picked stats by the way. You really had to select carefully. LOL

 

[pknopp]

On average 5-8 QBs are drafted every year. Guess how many become starters. A large part of any players success is who drafts them. If Trey Lance and Jimmy G don’t get hurt Purdy doesn’t start in week 14 3 years ago and we aren’t talking about Purdy

There is no point here.

 

[Couchpotato]

There is no point here.

That you don’t understand it doesn’t mean it’s not there.

 

[Couchpotato]

Yea by Giamatti in 1989. It could have been overturned by the snap of the fingers by Vincent, Selig, or Manfred. Plus, all the sports writers were piling onto the ban. They didn't like that Rose didn't kiss their ass.

But the press had nothing to do with his suspension nor his unwillingness to apologize. He knowingly broke the one rule everyone knew you couldn’t break.

Yet was one of the greatest things to ever happen to baseball, and the league/media are culpable... because they didn't say much while it happened, made the money from Bonds name as halted the sports world at every AB on his way to 73 HR's, and then once he winded down and retired they cut him loose and denounced him.

DID tne league and press kidnap Bonds hold him down and inject massive amounts of steroids and HGH into his system against his will for years and I just missed it? He cheated. It doesn’t matter why or who else knew. HE is responsible for his actions.

 

[pknopp]

That you don’t understand it doesn’t mean it’s not there.

Go ahead, how is this relevant to the issue being discussed?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

But the press had nothing to do with his suspension nor his unwillingness to apologize. He knowingly broke the one rule everyone knew you couldn’t break.

The Press was fully on board with punishing Rose. Stop. They let any commissioner feel at ease with the decision.

Meanwhile, put him in as a player, tell the story. Same with McGwire, Bonds, etc. You can't go to a Museum/HOF and say "well, let's look at the all-time hits leaders.. in second place is Ty Cobb, and in third place in Hank Aaron!". Moving onto Home Runs... In second place is Hank Aaron, and in third place is Babe Ruth!". LOL

DID tne league and press kidnap Bonds hold him down and inject massive amounts of steroids and HGH into his system against his will for years and I just missed it? He cheated. It doesn’t matter why or who else knew. HE is responsible for his actions.

Indeed. He also won 7 MVP's, and made the MLB millions/billions of dollars. They are just as dirty as he is, unless they want to donate all the money they made from the giant leap in coverage during his HR chase to charity?

 

[rightwinger]

You can’t really know that. But you can know how Bill did without Tom and how Tom did without Bill.

Of them won another Super Bowl. The other is coaching mostly losses at UNC.

I’m a Giant fan
We didn’t win two championships without Belichicks legendary defense.

If you look at most great coaches they build a great team and ride them to championships till the team burns itself out.
Belichick kept his team at a championship level for 20 years. Constantly retooling and winning without many HOF players outside of Brady.

Brady made for a great Patriots offense but Belichick built a team