Eric Arthur Blair
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Before you vote for Biden and his socialist pals running for office, read this!
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Can you show us where Biden claimed he was for socialism.
You bring back the past when it is to your advantage in agendas. The whole issue is...Could we be a richer nation and world with more for all then we currently are?Desperation time already?Well, first off, no one in this country is proposing the government or the state controls the means of production.
As Sanders has boasted, Biden would be “the most progressive president since FDR.”
HINT: When Sanders talks about Biden being the “most progressive president since FDR” that essentially mean he would be the most socialist president since FDR judging on the particulars of the manifesto he signed. He surely does not support and defend a free market, free enterprise system, and a federal government protecting the defined and limited powers granted to our federal government by our Constitution.
Here is a link to the 110 page manifesto that Biden signed.
JWK
Joe Biden and the Democrat Leadership want elderly American citizens, who paid into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their healthcare revenue with the millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders. LINK
One small problem with your posting. At the very end of the PDF, the Signatories are listed. As in the supporters. Here they are.
Fmr. Sec. of State John Kerry, Co-chair
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Co-chair
Rep. Kathy Castor
Kerry Duggan
Catherine Flowers
Rep. Conor Lamb
Gina McCarthy
Rep. Donald McEachin
Varshini Prakash
Notice the one name missing? The very one you claim has endorsed it. Had he endorsed it it would have his name on it. Stop making shit up.
And I don't disagree with it. I only disagree with the timelines to accomplish it. If we were still using the Energy and Manufacturing production we were in the 1920s, the world would already be dead. We have made marked improvements already. I've seen that in my lifetime. Maybe your lifetime isn't long enough to see it.
Answered it. All these are examples of grabbing and consolidating power. Just like Chavez did...except no one in this country has ever suggested anything resembling socialism in it's pure form....the closest one I've ever seen coming to anything socialistic..was Trump.
(When he suggested equity stakes in companies that got COVID aid. Talk about controlling the means of production).
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Democrats be like... vote for us or we will riot and burn your country down
Democrats are nothing but domestic terrorist scum who are led by a creepy old pedophile.
Ask Democrats to explain and spin Biden's behavior. They are sick *****.
Eric Arthur Blair
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Biden doesn't say he's a socialist, or amenable to socialism.
Biden shows he's a socialist by implementing socialist policies from Bernie Sanders and promising
to put his programs in action.
Even a dumb **** like you can figure that out.
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Venezuela is a Socialist success story and worked PERFECTLY!
The leadership became overnight billionaires without doing a single productive thing; the sheeple that thought they would magically be better off by surrendering their property, weapons and liberty to the Socialists end up eating their pets and selling their kids.
Biden is a centrist. Biden shows he's a good politician by building coalitions. Appeal to the old school and the new school. If you've watched politics for any length of time beyond the last 4 years, you would know this.
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Of course not. It's what they are told.
Ok shithead post some of the socialist policies that Biden has proposed.
That ignorant Jackass is nothing but an idiot Trump Humper.
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First we have to get rid of the cancer, then we can begin to heal the body. Trump has to go.
Eric Arthur Blair
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So Trump is in reality Hugo Chavez? Okay.....Answered it. All these are examples of grabbing and consolidating power. Just like Chavez did...except no one in this country has ever suggested anything resembling socialism in it's pure form....the closest one I've ever seen coming to anything socialistic..was Trump.
Got it. What Trump suggested was getting something from companies that want corona virus aid from US
taxpayers. How is this in anyway "socialism'?
I guess banks that will make business loans using a percentage of that business as collateral are also "socialists" in your mindless world.
U.S. may take equity stake in companies that get coronavirus aid, White House advisor Kudlow says | Fortune
Kudlow said that the 2008 bailout of General Motors had been a good deal for the federal government.
bailing out GM/Chrysler and letting the US government become their business partners?
And what did you think of the Obama GM bailout? Let me guess...you were all for it.
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Eric Arthur Blair
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The Bernie/Alexandria New Green Deal for one. Medicare for all, for another. Kapish, shithead?
Bernie Sanders stepped aside for Old Senile Joe provided Joe pushed Bernie's socialist policies.
Don't you know anything, you ignorant ****?
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Biden is a "centerist" pushing socialism in exchange for Bernie stepping aside and letting Joe run unopposed.
We'll see if pissing off the socialist wing of the party at the same time he drives away moderates is being
a "good politician" or not.
Most people would call it "idiotic". The only thing holding the democrats together is their absolute hatred for Donald Trump. It sure isn't good politician Joe Biden trying to be fish and fowl at the same time.
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No mention at all of your Joe Biden as signatory gaffe? Okay. We'll just pretend none of
Bernie Sanders and .......Joe Biden! Ta da.....!
"Notice the one name missing? The very one you claim has endorsed it. Had he endorsed it it would have his name on it. Stop making shit up. " His name IS on the paper as the person responsible for it's existence, not that I think he had a thing to do with this paper's creation except to put his name on it as a way of
the democrat old guard entering into an alliance with Bernie and the Marxists.
Political expediency is like that. Anyway, I hope you don't feel too stupid. Go to the heading on page one
to see where you went wrong.
And exactly what part of that do you object to? Is it that it's against Rump walking back the environmental protections that have been in place for decades? Since he is doing that, is it that they are saying that he needs to be replaced as soon as possible?
Considering we are on the cusp of Fission Power (give it 5 years or less and Lockheed Martin has a small one in operation right now and just needs to scale it up) does it sound like the year 2035 to get rid of all carbon based public power generation is too far wrong?
Are you against giving builders incentives to use energy savings construction? We are already doing that. Are you against large factories and large homes (rich bitches) homes using Geothermal for heating and cooling (already being done). Are you against new vehicles being zero emission? Norway is already doing that in cars and light trucks and the new changes in the batteries are already going to the factories to tool up and more are on the way.
Are you against School buses running Electricity for power? That's actually quite easy to do. Some Cities have already changed their public buses over already and saves a ton of money each year in not only power but maintenance.
Are you against pushing Buy American programs and tax programs? That should have been done about 3 decades ago.
Are you against making Farmers and Ranchers and others more energy efficient and more profitable?
Are you against removing the Racial bonds on energy efficiency? Right now, only the rich or well off gets to have any meaningful benefit from zero energy programs.
Are you against honoring the Treaties and agreements we have with the Native American Tribes?
Are you against giving the local governments more say in the energy programs including licensing and safety?
Are you against increasing the funds for the BLM and the Forest Service to help them manage the Forest better? Trust me, we REALLY need that one.
Are you against working with World Leaders and putting pressure on China and India to clean their act up?
Exactly what part of this are you opposed to? And don't go off on something stupid like "They want to do away with Airplanes" because crap like that just isn't in there.
that ever happened. Wink! It's our little secret.
For your information I have no problems with any of the technological advances you mentioned
and in a free market driven economy all of that will happen as natural consequence of market demand.
For instance considering some countries, like France, get most of their energy needs met by clean endless nuclear power I wonder when the left will acknowledge it's existence and stop living in a 1979 China Syndrome bubble?
France gets 70% of their power from nuclear. The US gets only 19.7%. Nuclear power by country - Wikipedia
But if nuclear power isn't your thing fission sounds great too.
What I object to are these dictatorial time mandates from politicians (like Gavin I'm not havin' any of that
Newsom). You can't mandate technology into being before it's feasible or ready.
Joe and Benie can put their names on all the policy position papers in the world. It won't deliver
clean practical innovation before it's time has come.
WE have barely tapped on the renewables available to us right now. Norway has tapped heavily and is energy neutral. They export oil to other countries and use little themselves. They hardly use any for light transportation, heating and electricity. And the US has more resources than Norway by far.
The way Norway did it was the way that MOST leaps like that happen. The Nationalized it and then turned it over to Capitalism after it was established. Like the US did with Railroads and such. Including Electric Grids. Are you aware that those electric grids are actually owned by the local Governments but leased by the Electric Companies? Same goes for the Cables that the TV Cable Companies use in cities and counties. Yes, it is a monopoly but one that must happen. But if the Service Company gets too far out of hand, they can be replaced by another since they don't actually own the lines. Same goes for the Railroads. You just don't get it, these are Social Programs that you would call Socialism and have been from the first day the Government paid to have them created. They are just too large to be created for any one company to do by themselves. It takes Nationalism to create such a venture. Like the Interstate System. Or even the local roads.
The next leap is going to have to be through nationalization because the initial cost is so high. But the benefits are so great. Lockheed and others working on Fission Power isn't doing on their own dime. They are doing it due to a Nationalized program where the Federal Government is picking up the tab. Whichever Company grabs the brass ball will end up with Hundreds of Trillions and the Government will be repaid over decades.
And that is what the New Green Deal is. It's a plan to Nationalize just like we have always done to get the things that each of us can't afford and no one company can afford. And later on, the Corporations or Companies will end up reaping the profits after the Government is paid back. Or while the Government is being paid back. This is a mixture of Socialism and Capitalism that built this nation.
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Oohhh, so abusive. And Biden doesn't agree with Bernie on Health care. And Biden is correct. Right now, he IS the Democratic party.
Eric Arthur Blair
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And Biden is absolutely pissing off the Jimmy Dore-ites, a significant socialist portion of the democrat political quilt. Watch a Dore YouTube video sometime and see how much they "love" Joe Biden.
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Ooohhh, I sense the GRU at work here, How's the weather in Moscow.
There is nothing wrong with the new green deal. No time limit has been set on it's accomplishment. As Technology permits, each part will become a reality. Some of it is already happening. And some of it has been happening since 1901. BTW, the biggest strides for Ecological Conservation in the past has been made by order of Republican Presidents. But you aren't a real Republican. You are a Party of the Rumper.
As for Medicare for Everyone, Biden has already spoken out against that. He won't support it. He is a proponent for working with both sides of the isle to come up with a workable solution. Don't let that fact get in the way of your lie.
Now, get back with your GRU handler or ask Hannity for an update. WE aren't buying what you are selling anymore. Rump just dropped to 15 points behind Biden as of Yesterday.
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