Before There Was God…

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….there were gods.



1.Perhaps God was tired out from creating the world, or didn’t feel it necessary to intermingle with the kids, so he didn’t ….until Moses, in 1313 BCE. That’s when he offered the contract, the Ten Commandments, acceptance of which sent mankind off to the races, producing the greatest culture ever known: Western Civilization.




BTW, even before the events on Sinai, there were rules for humanity.

2.Before Sinai and the Ten Commandments, there were the rules called the Noahide Laws, based on reason and a desire to be able to live with other people, laws against bad behavior, the idea that these injured society: bans on murder, theft, idolatry, sexual immorality, animal cruelty, cursing God, and the need to set up courts to punish the infractions. They are incumbent on everyone, whether one respects the Bible or not, because they are so obvious.
The benefit of the Bible is that it tells society how to be good.

Noahide Laws, also called Noachian Laws, a Jewish Talmudic designation for seven biblical laws given to Adam and to Noah before the revelation to Moses on Mt. Sinai and consequently binding on all mankind.” Noahide Laws | Judaism


“According to Jewish tradition, non-Jews who adhere to these laws …are said to be followers of Noahidism and regarded as righteous gentiles, who are assured of a place in the world to come, the final reward of the righteous.” Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia





3. Now for the idea that the rational, the common sense method is better than specific rules of religious morality. Can a human being be good without reference to God? As the saying goes, ‘Going to church doesn’t make you a good Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.’ Sure….there could be good pagans….or bad religious folks. While it is true that one can be moral and good and not religious, the idea does not work for all or even most, and certainly not for entire societies, not in the long term.

Why? Because there is no force behind reason. Take slavery as an example. There is no rational way to convince the slaveholder that he shouldn’t own and sell his fellow man: it makes a great profit, makes his life easier. He can even claim that his slaves live longer and better than many free men.

Or, take as an example, a sadist who gets satisfaction from murdering children. If there is no God who declares that such an act is wrong, then my arguing such is simply my opinion versus that of the murderer. Without God, good and evil are a matter of taste.





And, there is the obvious case today: the Democrat Party actually favors infanticide….and have convinced many to still vote for this….paganism. Abortion up to actual birth, and allowing one born in this manner to die.....is human sacrifice.

No coincidence that the same party eschews religion.
 
I always heard that they were going to drive one more nail into Jesus but a gypsy stole it so they said that gave them a license to steal.
 
4. But wait….polytheists weren’t idiots. No, they actually tried to avail themselves of one of the two themes that built our civilization. We’ve built western civilization on two pillars: God created every human in His image and human beings are able to investigate and make rational conclusions about the world. These two ideas were born in Jerusalem and Athens, respectively.

They missed out on the first, monotheism, but tried to make sense of the world through reason.


They saw so many different things in the world, and didn’t perceive of a singular God as being responsible for all. So….the polytheists envisioned a whole bunch of gods. Their religion was based, primarily, on only one sense: eyesight.

“The pagan perceives the divine in nature through the medium of the eye and he becomes conscious of it as something to be looked at.” Faith Lectures: Revelation - Torah From Heaven - Rabbi Sacks


“…a multiple of objects is a multiple of creators.”
Ben Shapiro.





Our monotheist forefathers added the idea of an unseen Creator, and that adds a requirement that we may not see all, and with an acceptance of the spiritual, a need to consider all sorts of ideas.
Yet, somehow, after three millennia, a large part of our population has regressed to practically being savages, and given up both religion and reason.

I would posit that only the simplest among us simply accept what they are told….Liberals. Every idea, plan, agenda should be questioned, and tested…..that’s the use of ‘reason,’ something even the most primitive tried to do.

You can’t be a ‘lock-step Liberal’ and claim that you use reason, intelligence, and knowledge. ‘Else, why would they support this: full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…




The inability to reason explains why they cannot hold a candle to conservatives in debate.
 
Abortion up to actual birth, and allowing one born in this manner to die.....is human sacrifice.
Christians just finished celebrating THEIR human sacrifice, unless you argue that JC was NOT human, now suddenly human sacrifice is wrong.
 
Abortion up to actual birth, and allowing one born in this manner to die.....is human sacrifice.
Christians just finished celebrating THEIR human sacrifice, unless you argue that JC was NOT human, now suddenly human sacrifice is wrong.



What a stupid attempt at a post....from a truly stupid human-stump.
 
….there were gods.



1.Perhaps God was tired out from creating the world, or didn’t feel it necessary to intermingle with the kids, so he didn’t ….until Moses, in 1313 BCE. That’s when he offered the contract, the Ten Commandments, acceptance of which sent mankind off to the races, producing the greatest culture ever known: Western Civilization.




BTW, even before the events on Sinai, there were rules for humanity.

2.Before Sinai and the Ten Commandments, there were the rules called the Noahide Laws, based on reason and a desire to be able to live with other people, laws against bad behavior, the idea that these injured society: bans on murder, theft, idolatry, sexual immorality, animal cruelty, cursing God, and the need to set up courts to punish the infractions. They are incumbent on everyone, whether one respects the Bible or not, because they are so obvious.
The benefit of the Bible is that it tells society how to be good.

Noahide Laws, also called Noachian Laws, a Jewish Talmudic designation for seven biblical laws given to Adam and to Noah before the revelation to Moses on Mt. Sinai and consequently binding on all mankind.” Noahide Laws | Judaism


“According to Jewish tradition, non-Jews who adhere to these laws …are said to be followers of Noahidism and regarded as righteous gentiles, who are assured of a place in the world to come, the final reward of the righteous.” Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia





3. Now for the idea that the rational, the common sense method is better than specific rules of religious morality. Can a human being be good without reference to God? As the saying goes, ‘Going to church doesn’t make you a good Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.’ Sure….there could be good pagans….or bad religious folks. While it is true that one can be moral and good and not religious, the idea does not work for all or even most, and certainly not for entire societies, not in the long term.

Why? Because there is no force behind reason. Take slavery as an example. There is no rational way to convince the slaveholder that he shouldn’t own and sell his fellow man: it makes a great profit, makes his life easier. He can even claim that his slaves live longer and better than many free men.

Or, take as an example, a sadist who gets satisfaction from murdering children. If there is no God who declares that such an act is wrong, then my arguing such is simply my opinion versus that of the murderer. Without God, good and evil are a matter of taste.





And, there is the obvious case today: the Democrat Party actually favors infanticide….and have convinced many to still vote for this….paganism. Abortion up to actual birth, and allowing one born in this manner to die.....is human sacrifice.

No coincidence that the same party eschews religion.
Your ideology blinds you to history.

The Seven Laws of Noah include prohibitions against worshipping idols, cursing God, murder, adultery and sexual immorality, theft, eating flesh torn from a living animal, as well as the obligation to establish courts of justice. Yet every culture has paganism and idolatry in it's history and most never changed until their contact with the West. So far as I know, paganism was at the root of every native American culture. If they descended from Noah you'd think there would be some memory of Noah's laws.

Every culture has rules for what is murder but the rules are almost always unique to that culture. Same for sexual immorality. The rules can and do evolve over time. The truth is that God did not give us the rules for conduct, we gave them to God.
 
I would posit that only the simplest among us simply accept what they are told….Liberals. Every idea, plan, agenda should be questioned, and tested…..that’s the use of ‘reason,’ something even the most primitive tried to do.
Has God talked directly to you or are you simply accepting what others have told you is the word or God?
 
I would posit that only the simplest among us simply accept what they are told….Liberals. Every idea, plan, agenda should be questioned, and tested…..that’s the use of ‘reason,’ something even the most primitive tried to do.
Has God talked directly to you or are you simply accepting what others have told you is the word or God?


what she is actually saying is that she would NOT know RIGHT from WRONG without a god to tell her.

and by "a god" I mean camel jockies who died 2000 years ago.....

In other words...SHE has NO MORALS of her own. She only has the morals that she has been indoctrinated to believe.
 
5. One real advantage of polytheism is the reduction in conflict.

“…religious tolerance characterized ancient peoples. This does not mean that one group could flout another group's religious practices. Far from it. Diodorus Siculus mentions the case of an irate Egyptian mob who lynched a Roman because he killed a sacred cat.

But it does mean that if one person were content to accept the religious practices of other people, they would accept his.

Accepting a polytheistic view of life, the ancients were under no pressure to deny the existence of the gods of other peoples. The only problem which could arise was the relative rank of their gods, and this commonly reflected political relationships of their worshippers.


Difficulties only surfaced when one group assertively denied the very existence of other gods. This was the case with the Jews, who in consequence became the least tolerant of all ancient peoples.”
Henry Saggs, “Civilization Before Greece And Rome,” p. 268
http://maistre.uni.cx:70/Texts/Reader/History/H W F Saggs - Civilization before Greece and Rome.pdf





Imagine the stubbornness needed to die rather than accept a religion one doesn’t believe it…..

Today there is a prominent political view, often claimed to be a religion, whose name actually means ‘submission.’

‘Death’ is a prominent feature of said belief if one chooses not to 'submit.'

Not surprisingly, it is often shielded and advanced by Democrats/Liberals/Leftists.
 
I would posit that only the simplest among us simply accept what they are told….Liberals. Every idea, plan, agenda should be questioned, and tested…..that’s the use of ‘reason,’ something even the most primitive tried to do.
Has God talked directly to you or are you simply accepting what others have told you is the word or God?


what she is actually saying is that she would NOT know RIGHT from WRONG without a god to tell her.

and by "a god" I mean camel jockies who died 2000 years ago.....

In other words...SHE has NO MORALS of her own. She only has the morals that she has been indoctrinated to believe.




I truly love how effortlessly I force you Leftists into lies and absurd posts.

Seems to be one of my myriad gifts, huh?
 
6. On the one hand we have polytheism, and contemporary Liberalism, in which no dispute is allowed. The former demanded living sacrifices and death to satisfy the gods, to those who strayed, and today we have a stylized and symbolic version of death….loss of status and livelihood….and actual human sacrifice:

Democrat Northam, Governor of Virginia, on infanticide:
“So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” he went on. “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”


Soooo......liar.....what are the possible outcomes of that 'discussion'????????

That’s right: sacrifice of this human.





The early monotheists had a vastly different view of disagreeing…even with God….


7. In his book “The Right Side Of History,” (p.25,) Ben Shapiro relates an argument between rabbis, and God’s voice enters the debate on the side of one rabbi. The other rabbi says to God, 'you gave us the Torah on Sinai, and it supports our side of the question, so we don’t have to listen to you.'

Later, when another rabbi asked, “What did the Holy One say when this happened?”

He said, ‘my children have triumphed over me.’”

Debate, the use of our intellect, is encouraged in the Judeo-Christian faith….no wonder Democrats eschew the faith.





8. Shapiro further proves the point: “It’s woven into the name itself- Yisrael, in Hebrew, means “struggle with God.” God wants man to use his mind, to explore ideas, not to submit without question.
New Testament adherents represented this on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, where God is shown resting on what is clearly a cerebrum...




This is the basis of, and what has made, Western Civilization great: logic, thought, debate.
 
Have I made clear why no Democrat/Liberal/Progressive can explain or defend the agenda of the party they support?

This:

The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…
 
….there were gods.



1.Perhaps God was tired out from creating the world, or didn’t feel it necessary to intermingle with the kids, so he didn’t ….until Moses, in 1313 BCE. That’s when he offered the contract, the Ten Commandments, acceptance of which sent mankind off to the races, producing the greatest culture ever known: Western Civilization.




BTW, even before the events on Sinai, there were rules for humanity.

2.Before Sinai and the Ten Commandments, there were the rules called the Noahide Laws, based on reason and a desire to be able to live with other people, laws against bad behavior, the idea that these injured society: bans on murder, theft, idolatry, sexual immorality, animal cruelty, cursing God, and the need to set up courts to punish the infractions. They are incumbent on everyone, whether one respects the Bible or not, because they are so obvious.
The benefit of the Bible is that it tells society how to be good.

Noahide Laws, also called Noachian Laws, a Jewish Talmudic designation for seven biblical laws given to Adam and to Noah before the revelation to Moses on Mt. Sinai and consequently binding on all mankind.” Noahide Laws | Judaism


“According to Jewish tradition, non-Jews who adhere to these laws …are said to be followers of Noahidism and regarded as righteous gentiles, who are assured of a place in the world to come, the final reward of the righteous.” Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia





3. Now for the idea that the rational, the common sense method is better than specific rules of religious morality. Can a human being be good without reference to God? As the saying goes, ‘Going to church doesn’t make you a good Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.’ Sure….there could be good pagans….or bad religious folks. While it is true that one can be moral and good and not religious, the idea does not work for all or even most, and certainly not for entire societies, not in the long term.

Why? Because there is no force behind reason. Take slavery as an example. There is no rational way to convince the slaveholder that he shouldn’t own and sell his fellow man: it makes a great profit, makes his life easier. He can even claim that his slaves live longer and better than many free men.

Or, take as an example, a sadist who gets satisfaction from murdering children. If there is no God who declares that such an act is wrong, then my arguing such is simply my opinion versus that of the murderer. Without God, good and evil are a matter of taste.





And, there is the obvious case today: the Democrat Party actually favors infanticide….and have convinced many to still vote for this….paganism. Abortion up to actual birth, and allowing one born in this manner to die.....is human sacrifice.

No coincidence that the same party eschews religion.
I don’t take orders from hearsay, or lackeys. If any entity has something to say to me; it can say it to my face. Or get fucked...
 
….there were gods.



1.Perhaps God was tired out from creating the world, or didn’t feel it necessary to intermingle with the kids, so he didn’t ….until Moses, in 1313 BCE. That’s when he offered the contract, the Ten Commandments, acceptance of which sent mankind off to the races, producing the greatest culture ever known: Western Civilization.




BTW, even before the events on Sinai, there were rules for humanity.

2.Before Sinai and the Ten Commandments, there were the rules called the Noahide Laws, based on reason and a desire to be able to live with other people, laws against bad behavior, the idea that these injured society: bans on murder, theft, idolatry, sexual immorality, animal cruelty, cursing God, and the need to set up courts to punish the infractions. They are incumbent on everyone, whether one respects the Bible or not, because they are so obvious.
The benefit of the Bible is that it tells society how to be good.

Noahide Laws, also called Noachian Laws, a Jewish Talmudic designation for seven biblical laws given to Adam and to Noah before the revelation to Moses on Mt. Sinai and consequently binding on all mankind.” Noahide Laws | Judaism


“According to Jewish tradition, non-Jews who adhere to these laws …are said to be followers of Noahidism and regarded as righteous gentiles, who are assured of a place in the world to come, the final reward of the righteous.” Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia





3. Now for the idea that the rational, the common sense method is better than specific rules of religious morality. Can a human being be good without reference to God? As the saying goes, ‘Going to church doesn’t make you a good Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.’ Sure….there could be good pagans….or bad religious folks. While it is true that one can be moral and good and not religious, the idea does not work for all or even most, and certainly not for entire societies, not in the long term.

Why? Because there is no force behind reason. Take slavery as an example. There is no rational way to convince the slaveholder that he shouldn’t own and sell his fellow man: it makes a great profit, makes his life easier. He can even claim that his slaves live longer and better than many free men.

Or, take as an example, a sadist who gets satisfaction from murdering children. If there is no God who declares that such an act is wrong, then my arguing such is simply my opinion versus that of the murderer. Without God, good and evil are a matter of taste.





And, there is the obvious case today: the Democrat Party actually favors infanticide….and have convinced many to still vote for this….paganism. Abortion up to actual birth, and allowing one born in this manner to die.....is human sacrifice.

No coincidence that the same party eschews religion.
I don’t take orders from hearsay, or lackeys. If any entity has something to say to me; it can say it to my face. Or get fucked...



And another one comes out of the primordial ooze to prove the thread.

OK, you've served the purpose you were born to serve, now, back into the oblivion you so richly deserve.
 
Democrat Northam, Governor of Virginia, on infanticide:
So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” he went on. “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”
GEE, what a surprise, NOT! You deliberately and dishonestly misrepresented the "particular example" Northam was discussing.

Northam noted that this kind of procedure only occurs in cases of severe deformities or nonviable pregnancy. He said that in this scenario, “the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”
 
Have I made clear why no Democrat/Liberal/Progressive can explain or defend the agenda of the party they support?

This:

The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…
Why should anyone have to explain or defend YOUR lies?????
 
….there were gods.



1.Perhaps God was tired out from creating the world, or didn’t feel it necessary to intermingle with the kids, so he didn’t ….until Moses, in 1313 BCE. That’s when he offered the contract, the Ten Commandments, acceptance of which sent mankind off to the races, producing the greatest culture ever known: Western Civilization.




BTW, even before the events on Sinai, there were rules for humanity.

2.Before Sinai and the Ten Commandments, there were the rules called the Noahide Laws, based on reason and a desire to be able to live with other people, laws against bad behavior, the idea that these injured society: bans on murder, theft, idolatry, sexual immorality, animal cruelty, cursing God, and the need to set up courts to punish the infractions. They are incumbent on everyone, whether one respects the Bible or not, because they are so obvious.
The benefit of the Bible is that it tells society how to be good.

Noahide Laws, also called Noachian Laws, a Jewish Talmudic designation for seven biblical laws given to Adam and to Noah before the revelation to Moses on Mt. Sinai and consequently binding on all mankind.” Noahide Laws | Judaism


“According to Jewish tradition, non-Jews who adhere to these laws …are said to be followers of Noahidism and regarded as righteous gentiles, who are assured of a place in the world to come, the final reward of the righteous.” Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia





3. Now for the idea that the rational, the common sense method is better than specific rules of religious morality. Can a human being be good without reference to God? As the saying goes, ‘Going to church doesn’t make you a good Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.’ Sure….there could be good pagans….or bad religious folks. While it is true that one can be moral and good and not religious, the idea does not work for all or even most, and certainly not for entire societies, not in the long term.

Why? Because there is no force behind reason. Take slavery as an example. There is no rational way to convince the slaveholder that he shouldn’t own and sell his fellow man: it makes a great profit, makes his life easier. He can even claim that his slaves live longer and better than many free men.

Or, take as an example, a sadist who gets satisfaction from murdering children. If there is no God who declares that such an act is wrong, then my arguing such is simply my opinion versus that of the murderer. Without God, good and evil are a matter of taste.





And, there is the obvious case today: the Democrat Party actually favors infanticide….and have convinced many to still vote for this….paganism. Abortion up to actual birth, and allowing one born in this manner to die.....is human sacrifice.

No coincidence that the same party eschews religion.
I don’t take orders from hearsay, or lackeys. If any entity has something to say to me; it can say it to my face. Or get fucked...



And another one comes out of the primordial ooze to prove the thread.

OK, you've served the purpose you were born to serve, now, back into the oblivion you so richly deserve.
Struck a nerve I see... Good...
 

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