Before There Was God…

[OldLady]

Have I made clear why no Democrat/Liberal/Progressive can explain or defend the agenda of the party they support?

This:

The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…

No one is trying to defend that crap because it's nothing but nasty partisan bullshit.

I recognize how deeply the truth, my posts, wound you, but do try to use adult language and eschew the vulgarity.



Let me give you another chance......are you disputing that the Democrat Party stands for exactly what I wrote: full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…



Now.....think it over carefully before you put your hoof in your mouth......and consider that, if this is the first time you have tried to think, it may result in an aneurysm.

You know better if you indeed have a brain; however, this is off topic and I apologize for that.

 

[OldLady]

….there were gods.



1.Perhaps God was tired out from creating the world, or didn’t feel it necessary to intermingle with the kids, so he didn’t ….until Moses, in 1313 BCE. That’s when he offered the contract, the Ten Commandments, acceptance of which sent mankind off to the races, producing the greatest culture ever known: Western Civilization.




BTW, even before the events on Sinai, there were rules for humanity.

2.Before Sinai and the Ten Commandments, there were the rules called the Noahide Laws, based on reason and a desire to be able to live with other people, laws against bad behavior, the idea that these injured society: bans on murder, theft, idolatry, sexual immorality, animal cruelty, cursing God, and the need to set up courts to punish the infractions. They are incumbent on everyone, whether one respects the Bible or not, because they are so obvious.
The benefit of the Bible is that it tells society how to be good.

“Noahide Laws, also called Noachian Laws, a Jewish Talmudic designation for seven biblical laws given to Adam and to Noah before the revelation to Moses on Mt. Sinai and consequently binding on all mankind.” Noahide Laws | Judaism


“According to Jewish tradition, non-Jews who adhere to these laws …are said to be followers of Noahidism and regarded as righteous gentiles, who are assured of a place in …the world to come, the final reward of the righteous.” Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia





3. Now for the idea that the rational, the common sense method is better than specific rules of religious morality. Can a human being be good without reference to God? As the saying goes, ‘Going to church doesn’t make you a good Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.’ Sure….there could be good pagans….or bad religious folks. While it is true that one can be moral and good and not religious, the idea does not work for all or even most, and certainly not for entire societies, not in the long term.

Why? Because there is no force behind reason. Take slavery as an example. There is no rational way to convince the slaveholder that he shouldn’t own and sell his fellow man: it makes a great profit, makes his life easier. He can even claim that his slaves live longer and better than many free men.

Or, take as an example, a sadist who gets satisfaction from murdering children. If there is no God who declares that such an act is wrong, then my arguing such is simply my opinion versus that of the murderer. Without God, good and evil are a matter of taste.





And, there is the obvious case today: the Democrat Party actually favors infanticide….and have convinced many to still vote for this….paganism. Abortion up to actual birth, and allowing one born in this manner to die.....is human sacrifice.

No coincidence that the same party eschews religion.

You seem to be pushing the idea of an "acceptable" religion. That is one of the first things our Founding Fathers said NO to.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Have I made clear why no Democrat/Liberal/Progressive can explain or defend the agenda of the party they support?

This:

The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…

No one is trying to defend that crap because it's nothing but nasty partisan bullshit.

I recognize how deeply the truth, my posts, wound you, but do try to use adult language and eschew the vulgarity.



Let me give you another chance......are you disputing that the Democrat Party stands for exactly what I wrote: full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…



Now.....think it over carefully before you put your hoof in your mouth......and consider that, if this is the first time you have tried to think, it may result in an aneurysm.

You know better if you indeed have a brain; however, this is off topic and I apologize for that.

Let me give you another chance......are you disputing that the Democrat Party stands for exactly what I wrote: full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…


Seems you knew better than to deny the clear and evident truth of my post.

 

[PoliticalChic]

….there were gods.



1.Perhaps God was tired out from creating the world, or didn’t feel it necessary to intermingle with the kids, so he didn’t ….until Moses, in 1313 BCE. That’s when he offered the contract, the Ten Commandments, acceptance of which sent mankind off to the races, producing the greatest culture ever known: Western Civilization.




BTW, even before the events on Sinai, there were rules for humanity.

2.Before Sinai and the Ten Commandments, there were the rules called the Noahide Laws, based on reason and a desire to be able to live with other people, laws against bad behavior, the idea that these injured society: bans on murder, theft, idolatry, sexual immorality, animal cruelty, cursing God, and the need to set up courts to punish the infractions. They are incumbent on everyone, whether one respects the Bible or not, because they are so obvious.
The benefit of the Bible is that it tells society how to be good.

“Noahide Laws, also called Noachian Laws, a Jewish Talmudic designation for seven biblical laws given to Adam and to Noah before the revelation to Moses on Mt. Sinai and consequently binding on all mankind.” Noahide Laws | Judaism


“According to Jewish tradition, non-Jews who adhere to these laws …are said to be followers of Noahidism and regarded as righteous gentiles, who are assured of a place in …the world to come, the final reward of the righteous.” Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia





3. Now for the idea that the rational, the common sense method is better than specific rules of religious morality. Can a human being be good without reference to God? As the saying goes, ‘Going to church doesn’t make you a good Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.’ Sure….there could be good pagans….or bad religious folks. While it is true that one can be moral and good and not religious, the idea does not work for all or even most, and certainly not for entire societies, not in the long term.

Why? Because there is no force behind reason. Take slavery as an example. There is no rational way to convince the slaveholder that he shouldn’t own and sell his fellow man: it makes a great profit, makes his life easier. He can even claim that his slaves live longer and better than many free men.

Or, take as an example, a sadist who gets satisfaction from murdering children. If there is no God who declares that such an act is wrong, then my arguing such is simply my opinion versus that of the murderer. Without God, good and evil are a matter of taste.





And, there is the obvious case today: the Democrat Party actually favors infanticide….and have convinced many to still vote for this….paganism. Abortion up to actual birth, and allowing one born in this manner to die.....is human sacrifice.

No coincidence that the same party eschews religion.

You seem to be pushing the idea of an "acceptable" religion. That is one of the first things our Founding Fathers said NO to.

"You seem to be pushing the idea of an "acceptable" religion. That is one of the first things our Founding Fathers said NO to."



You really are a dunce......

The battle cry of the Left…”separation of church and state.” Why? Truth is, America was founded based on the Judeo-Christian faith, the Bible being the most quoted source by our Founders. And those Founders were religious folks who saw America escaping the king as the extension of the Jews escaping Egypt.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

They were believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known by Leftists today, “an extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”
Oh.....a "white" extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”




I'll bet you are a government school grad who has never read a book not assigned therein.

 

[OldLady]

Have I made clear why no Democrat/Liberal/Progressive can explain or defend the agenda of the party they support?

This:

The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…

No one is trying to defend that crap because it's nothing but nasty partisan bullshit.

I recognize how deeply the truth, my posts, wound you, but do try to use adult language and eschew the vulgarity.



Let me give you another chance......are you disputing that the Democrat Party stands for exactly what I wrote: full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…



Now.....think it over carefully before you put your hoof in your mouth......and consider that, if this is the first time you have tried to think, it may result in an aneurysm.

You know better if you indeed have a brain; however, this is off topic and I apologize for that.

Let me give you another chance......are you disputing that the Democrat Party stands for exactly what I wrote: full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…


Seems you knew better than to deny the clear and evident truth of my post.

Well, you are the OP. Obviously, your intent here was not to talk about paganism v. Judeo-Christian religion. It was to enourage the idea that the Judeo-Christian religions are the only ones acceptable in our country.

 

[OldLady]

….there were gods.



1.Perhaps God was tired out from creating the world, or didn’t feel it necessary to intermingle with the kids, so he didn’t ….until Moses, in 1313 BCE. That’s when he offered the contract, the Ten Commandments, acceptance of which sent mankind off to the races, producing the greatest culture ever known: Western Civilization.




BTW, even before the events on Sinai, there were rules for humanity.

2.Before Sinai and the Ten Commandments, there were the rules called the Noahide Laws, based on reason and a desire to be able to live with other people, laws against bad behavior, the idea that these injured society: bans on murder, theft, idolatry, sexual immorality, animal cruelty, cursing God, and the need to set up courts to punish the infractions. They are incumbent on everyone, whether one respects the Bible or not, because they are so obvious.
The benefit of the Bible is that it tells society how to be good.

“Noahide Laws, also called Noachian Laws, a Jewish Talmudic designation for seven biblical laws given to Adam and to Noah before the revelation to Moses on Mt. Sinai and consequently binding on all mankind.” Noahide Laws | Judaism


“According to Jewish tradition, non-Jews who adhere to these laws …are said to be followers of Noahidism and regarded as righteous gentiles, who are assured of a place in …the world to come, the final reward of the righteous.” Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia





3. Now for the idea that the rational, the common sense method is better than specific rules of religious morality. Can a human being be good without reference to God? As the saying goes, ‘Going to church doesn’t make you a good Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.’ Sure….there could be good pagans….or bad religious folks. While it is true that one can be moral and good and not religious, the idea does not work for all or even most, and certainly not for entire societies, not in the long term.

Why? Because there is no force behind reason. Take slavery as an example. There is no rational way to convince the slaveholder that he shouldn’t own and sell his fellow man: it makes a great profit, makes his life easier. He can even claim that his slaves live longer and better than many free men.

Or, take as an example, a sadist who gets satisfaction from murdering children. If there is no God who declares that such an act is wrong, then my arguing such is simply my opinion versus that of the murderer. Without God, good and evil are a matter of taste.





And, there is the obvious case today: the Democrat Party actually favors infanticide….and have convinced many to still vote for this….paganism. Abortion up to actual birth, and allowing one born in this manner to die.....is human sacrifice.

No coincidence that the same party eschews religion.

You seem to be pushing the idea of an "acceptable" religion. That is one of the first things our Founding Fathers said NO to.

"You seem to be pushing the idea of an "acceptable" religion. That is one of the first things our Founding Fathers said NO to."



You really are a dunce......

The battle cry of the Left…”separation of church and state.” Why? Truth is, America was founded based on the Judeo-Christian faith, the Bible being the most quoted source by our Founders. And those Founders were religious folks who saw America escaping the king as the extension of the Jews escaping Egypt.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

They were believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known by Leftists today, “an extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”
Oh.....a "white" extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”




I'll bet you are a government school grad who has never read a book not assigned therein.

I don't agree with your trying to equate an acceptable or superior religion to our success. Mixing religion and politics is never a good idea. Look at the Muslim countries you despise. Look at the Fundamentalists who want us to legalize bigotry against gays again. Religion needs to stay out of it for a reason.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Thank you for admitting you have no rebuttal.

No rebuttal required for such a ridiculous straw man.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Have I made clear why no Democrat/Liberal/Progressive can explain or defend the agenda of the party they support?

This:

The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…

No one is trying to defend that crap because it's nothing but nasty partisan bullshit.

I recognize how deeply the truth, my posts, wound you, but do try to use adult language and eschew the vulgarity.



Let me give you another chance......are you disputing that the Democrat Party stands for exactly what I wrote: full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…



Now.....think it over carefully before you put your hoof in your mouth......and consider that, if this is the first time you have tried to think, it may result in an aneurysm.

You know better if you indeed have a brain; however, this is off topic and I apologize for that.

Let me give you another chance......are you disputing that the Democrat Party stands for exactly what I wrote: full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, Myinfanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…


Seems you knew better than to deny the clear and evident truth of my post.

Well, you are the OP. Obviously, your intent here was not to talk about paganism v. Judeo-Christian religion. It was to enourage the idea that the Judeo-Christian religions are the only ones acceptable in our country.

My intent was to show:
a. that the monotheism was the impetus for Western Civilization

b. That the Judeo-Christian faith that developed from said monotheism was the basis of our nation's founding

c. That the current Democrat/Liberal/Progressive agenda is a throwback to paganism, which is why you are unable to deny that this atavistic agenda is pagan and anti-American at its core: full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, Myinfanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism…

 

[PoliticalChic]

….there were gods.



1.Perhaps God was tired out from creating the world, or didn’t feel it necessary to intermingle with the kids, so he didn’t ….until Moses, in 1313 BCE. That’s when he offered the contract, the Ten Commandments, acceptance of which sent mankind off to the races, producing the greatest culture ever known: Western Civilization.




BTW, even before the events on Sinai, there were rules for humanity.

2.Before Sinai and the Ten Commandments, there were the rules called the Noahide Laws, based on reason and a desire to be able to live with other people, laws against bad behavior, the idea that these injured society: bans on murder, theft, idolatry, sexual immorality, animal cruelty, cursing God, and the need to set up courts to punish the infractions. They are incumbent on everyone, whether one respects the Bible or not, because they are so obvious.
The benefit of the Bible is that it tells society how to be good.

“Noahide Laws, also called Noachian Laws, a Jewish Talmudic designation for seven biblical laws given to Adam and to Noah before the revelation to Moses on Mt. Sinai and consequently binding on all mankind.” Noahide Laws | Judaism


“According to Jewish tradition, non-Jews who adhere to these laws …are said to be followers of Noahidism and regarded as righteous gentiles, who are assured of a place in …the world to come, the final reward of the righteous.” Seven Laws of Noah - Wikipedia





3. Now for the idea that the rational, the common sense method is better than specific rules of religious morality. Can a human being be good without reference to God? As the saying goes, ‘Going to church doesn’t make you a good Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.’ Sure….there could be good pagans….or bad religious folks. While it is true that one can be moral and good and not religious, the idea does not work for all or even most, and certainly not for entire societies, not in the long term.

Why? Because there is no force behind reason. Take slavery as an example. There is no rational way to convince the slaveholder that he shouldn’t own and sell his fellow man: it makes a great profit, makes his life easier. He can even claim that his slaves live longer and better than many free men.

Or, take as an example, a sadist who gets satisfaction from murdering children. If there is no God who declares that such an act is wrong, then my arguing such is simply my opinion versus that of the murderer. Without God, good and evil are a matter of taste.





And, there is the obvious case today: the Democrat Party actually favors infanticide….and have convinced many to still vote for this….paganism. Abortion up to actual birth, and allowing one born in this manner to die.....is human sacrifice.

No coincidence that the same party eschews religion.

You seem to be pushing the idea of an "acceptable" religion. That is one of the first things our Founding Fathers said NO to.

"You seem to be pushing the idea of an "acceptable" religion. That is one of the first things our Founding Fathers said NO to."



You really are a dunce......

The battle cry of the Left…”separation of church and state.” Why? Truth is, America was founded based on the Judeo-Christian faith, the Bible being the most quoted source by our Founders. And those Founders were religious folks who saw America escaping the king as the extension of the Jews escaping Egypt.

The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2010/02/new_column_libe_4.html

They were believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known by Leftists today, “an extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”
Oh.....a "white" extremist Fundamentalist hate group.”




I'll bet you are a government school grad who has never read a book not assigned therein.

I don't agree with your trying to equate an acceptable or superior religion to our success. Mixing religion and politics is never a good idea. Look at the Muslim countries you despise. Look at the Fundamentalists who want us to legalize bigotry against gays again. Religion needs to stay out of it for a reason.

" Mixing religion and politics is never a good idea."


(sigh.....) If only you were less ignorant, and had a knowledge of history.

This is the result of NOT aligning morality and governance:

The regimen that mandated the end of religion in Western civilization began two centuries ago.


‘The Enlightenment’…sounds like a blessing, sunlight into the dark. That’s probably the impression left by government schooling. Actually, the explosion of science, the sudden success in understanding of the world, led to many elites actually believing that only one of the two features that led to that point, reason, was necessary….and the other, religion, could be dispensed with.


They were wrong. Science can tell us what we can do, but, sans religion, not what we should do.




“The term Enlightenment suggests….that belief in Judeo-Christian values and God Himself was at best an obstruction to modern Western civilization.”
Ben Shapiro, “The Right Side Of History,” p.98

Herein the danger of eliminating the Judeo-Christian influence that were prominent in the creation of this nation.





.Want to see the comparison between keeping both faith and reason, and basing the revolution only on reason? That would be the American Revolution vs the French version.
In the course of France's short revolution, 600,000 French citizens were killed, and another 145,000 fled the country.
Schom, "Napoleon Bonaparte," p. 253.

"That's in a country with between 24 and 26 million people, about the current population of Texas. In terms of population loss, that would be the equivalent of the United States having a 9/11 attack every day for seven years."
Coulter, "Demonic," p. 266.


The American Revolution? About 1%-2% of that number.

There is no morality. No care or concern for other, or for life. Nor is any required. This is the gift of the Enlightenment, with its view to replacing religion with science, with reason.




BTW, the Russian Revolution was an extension of the French one, and ultimately cost over 100 million human lives.
Even in the 19th century, as religious conviction waned, the warnings were there. Ivan Karamazov, in “The Brothers Karamazov,” exclaimed ‘if God does not exist, then everything is permitted.’

Mass murder included.


"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

This is why the major political party, the Democrat, can endorse infanticide and racism, and still be considered a choice for governing.

 

[alang1216]

Equality before the law was an essential element in the material prosperity we revel in….but before that, is the spiritual, and legal, equality that monotheism provided.

I don't see how monotheism is responsible for any of that. Your rewriting of history changes nothing.

Legal equality is completely divorced from theology. The early Christian kingdoms were the first not to be based on slavery but they enforced a stringent Feudal hierarchy supported by the Church. I don't see how they were any more equal than pagan Rome or Greece.

As for spiritual equality, monotheism was diametrically opposed to it. You could be a pagan and worship any number of gods, there was no jealousy between them. Not so the God of Israel who demanded they worship him alone, a very jealous God. That jealousy flowed into Christianity and Islam and war with non-believers and heretics became the norm.

 

[Vastator]

Equality before the law was an essential element in the material prosperity we revel in….but before that, is the spiritual, and legal, equality that monotheism provided.

I don't see how monotheism is responsible for any of that. Your rewriting of history changes nothing.

Legal equality is completely divorced from theology. The early Christian kingdoms were the first not to be based on slavery but they enforced a stringent Feudal hierarchy supported by the Church. I don't see how they were any more equal than pagan Rome or Greece.

As for spiritual equality, monotheism was diametrically opposed to it. You could be a pagan and worship any number of gods, there was no jealousy between them. Not so the God of Israel who demanded they worship him alone, a very jealous God. That jealousy flowed into Christianity and Islam and war with non-believers and heretics became the norm.

Spin however they like; Christians are not monotheistic. End of story...

 

[alang1216]

Spin however they like; Christians are not monotheistic. End of story...

Is that your view or their view?

 

[Vastator]

Spin however they like; Christians are not monotheistic. End of story...

Is that your view or their view?

It’s reality, no matter how anyone views it...

 

[alang1216]

Spin however they like; Christians are not monotheistic. End of story...

Is that your view or their view?

It’s reality, no matter how anyone views it...

Sorry but your opinion does not equate to reality. You may think the Trinity is contrived or silly or whatever but that is only your opinion. You are welcome to live in your own personal reality but don't think it is shared by anyone else.

 

[Vastator]

Spin however they like; Christians are not monotheistic. End of story...

Is that your view or their view?

It’s reality, no matter how anyone views it...

Sorry but your opinion does not equate to reality. You may think the Trinity is contrived or silly or whatever but that is only your opinion. You are welcome to live in your own personal reality but don't think it is shared by anyone else.

“Trinity”, “Tri”, Three... Reality persists, without regard to yours, or my feelings on the matter...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Spin however they like; Christians are not monotheistic. End of story...

Is that your view or their view?

It’s reality, no matter how anyone views it...

Sorry but your opinion does not equate to reality. You may think the Trinity is contrived or silly or whatever but that is only your opinion. You are welcome to live in your own personal reality but don't think it is shared by anyone else.

“Trinity”, “Tri”, Three... Reality persists, without regard to yours, or my feelings on the matter...

This is where reading books comes in handy.

The Trinity, it was decided, was one.
"The Christian doctrine of the Trinity (Latin: Trinitas, lit. 'triad', from Latin: trinus "threefold")[1] holds that God is one God, but three coeternal consubstantial persons[2] or hypostases[3]—the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit—as "one God in three Divine Persons". The three Persons are distinct, yet are one "substance, essence or nature"
Trinity - Wikipedia



Constantine (232-327 CE) brought Christianity to the Roman Empire, and believed that religious disputes and controversies brought with them instability, preferring where possible to establish an orthodoxy, so he brought 300 bishops to the Council of Nicaea, May 20, 325.The immediate reason for the Council was the dispute between Arius, an Alexandrian priest, and his bishop in 306. Arius argues that Christ could not be divine, but was an intermediary of God. In 320, Arius was excommunicated- but his ideas continued to spread. At the Council, Constantine tried to find a compromise, but the emperor carried out his earlier statement: everybody who refuses to endorse the Creed will be exiled. Arius, Theonas, and Secundus refused to adhere to the creed, and were thus exiled to Illyria, in addition to being excommunicated. The works of Arius were ordered to be confiscated and consigned to the flames while all persons found possessing them were to be executed. A later council supported the Monophysite position: the nature of Christ contained no difference between human and devine, on a single-natured (Monophysite) Jesus.

 

[Vastator]

Spin however they like; Christians are not monotheistic. End of story...

Is that your view or their view?

It’s reality, no matter how anyone views it...

Sorry but your opinion does not equate to reality. You may think the Trinity is contrived or silly or whatever but that is only your opinion. You are welcome to live in your own personal reality but don't think it is shared by anyone else.

“Trinity”, “Tri”, Three... Reality persists, without regard to yours, or my feelings on the matter...

This is where reading books comes in handy.

The Trinity, it was decided, was one.
"The Christian doctrine of the Trinity (Latin: Trinitas, lit. 'triad', from Latin: trinus "threefold")[1] holds that God is one God, but three coeternal consubstantial persons[2] or hypostases[3]—the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit—as "one God in three Divine Persons". The three Persons are distinct, yet are one "substance, essence or nature"
Trinity - Wikipedia



Constantine (232-327 CE) brought Christianity to the Roman Empire, and believed that religious disputes and controversies brought with them instability, preferring where possible to establish an orthodoxy, so he brought 300 bishops to the Council of Nicaea, May 20, 325.The immediate reason for the Council was the dispute between Arius, an Alexandrian priest, and his bishop in 306. Arius argues that Christ could not be divine, but was an intermediary of God. In 320, Arius was excommunicated- but his ideas continued to spread. At the Council, Constantine tried to find a compromise, but the emperor carried out his earlier statement: everybody who refuses to endorse the Creed will be exiled. Arius, Theonas, and Secundus refused to adhere to the creed, and were thus exiled to Illyria, in addition to being excommunicated. The works of Arius were ordered to be confiscated and consigned to the flames while all persons found possessing them were to be executed. A later council supported the Monophysite position: the nature of Christ contained no difference between human and devine, on a single-natured (Monophysite) Jesus.

 

[alang1216]

“Trinity”, “Tri”, Three... Reality persists, without regard to yours, or my feelings on the matter...

Really? You're going to argue semantics as the basis for your reality? That's not reality that is purely illusion. A coin has two sides, is it one coin or two?

 

[Vastator]

“Trinity”, “Tri”, Three... Reality persists, without regard to yours, or my feelings on the matter...

Really? You're going to argue semantics as the basis for your reality? That's not reality that is purely illusion. A coin has two sides, is it one coin or two?

Actually a coin has three sides. And there is nothing semantical about reality...

 

[alang1216]

Equality before the law was an essential element in the material prosperity we revel in….but before that, is the spiritual, and legal, equality that monotheism provided.

Arius, Theonas, and Secundus refused to adhere to the creed, and were thus exiled to Illyria, in addition to being excommunicated. The works of Arius were ordered to be confiscated and consigned to the flames while all persons found possessing them were to be executed.

Could explain how this was spiritual and legal equality?