Before Government Schooling.....

[rightwinger]

Without Government Schooling, what would we be left with?

Home Skool
Look everyone, I is a Teecher!

 

[PoliticalChic]

40 days and 40 nights of rain- two of every species on a boat-Seattle Public Schools have achieved complete stupidity.

The reason for the first line?

Probably because it was the kind of nonsense we were taught in public schools when I was younger. Thankfully, the USSC saw the light and didn't make everyone bow to one sect's fairy tales anymore.

Speaking of fairy tales.....have you seen the views of the Democrat candidates for President???

I strongly disagree with the religion being taught in the schools....Militant Secularism



“The secularists Stewart represents just refuse to acknowledge that their religious beliefs are in fact religious beliefs, and of a far creepier and deadlier kind than Christians’.

….the belief that it is possible to fix the world by applying government pressure? That is not a belief that can be wholly validated by research or experience. In fact, research and experience both indicate that central planning usually makes life even more nasty, brutish, and short.

So what is this unfounded, undocumented, unprovable faith in government power to correct human psyches and behavior if not a religious (metaphysical) belief? It is also an unprovable and metaphysical belief about what a human is — a thing that can be “corrected” by politics and whose “error” is not intrinsic to itself. Again, these are all metaphysical, religious beliefs with no empirical basis or possibility of being fully empirically proven.

The secular, pagan, atheist types are the ones who claim religious assumptions are evil. They do so because they erroneously believe they are free from such assumptions. But in truth, no one is.”” Barr: The People Trying To 'Impose Their Values' Are 'Militant Secularists'





"The Left says of the Right, “You fools, it is demonstrable that dinosaurs lived one hundred million years ago, I can prove it to you, how can you say the earth was created in 4000BCE?” But this supposed intransigence on the part of the Religious Right is far less detrimental to the health of the body politic than the Left’s love affair with Marxism, Socialism, Racialism, the Command Economy, all of which have been proven via one hundred years of evidence shows only shortages, despotism and murder."
David Mamet.


Feel free to take notes....

You're gaslighting us by saying that scientific facts are some kind of religion. Religions are very resistant to change, while science demands change when new facts are uncovered.

"Us"????

You have a tapeworm???


Why are Liberals so afraid to stand up by and for themselves.



You didn't read Barr's quote carefully.....he makes clear that Liberalism taught in the government schools fits the definition of a religion.


"The secularists Stewart represents just refuse to acknowledge that their religious beliefs are in fact religious beliefs, and of a far creepier and deadlier kind than Christians’.

….the belief that it is possible to fix the world by applying government pressure? That is not a belief that can be wholly validated by research or experience. In fact, research and experience both indicate that central planning usually makes life even more nasty, brutish, and short.

So what is this unfounded, undocumented, unprovable faith in government power to correct human psyches and behavior if not a religious (metaphysical) belief? It is also an unprovable and metaphysical belief about what a human is — a thing that can be “corrected” by politics and whose “error” is not intrinsic to itself. Again, these are all metaphysical, religious beliefs with no empirical basis or possibility of being fully empirically proven.

The secular, pagan, atheist types are the ones who claim religious assumptions are evil. They do so because they erroneously believe they are free from such assumptions. But in truth, no one is.”” Barr: The People Trying To 'Impose Their Values' Are 'Militant Secularists'


In case you miss it a second time:

unfounded, undocumented, unprovable faith in government power

 

[PoliticalChic]

40 days and 40 nights of rain- two of every species on a boat-Seattle Public Schools have achieved complete stupidity.

The reason for the first line?

Probably because it was the kind of nonsense we were taught in public schools when I was younger. Thankfully, the USSC saw the light and didn't make everyone bow to one sect's fairy tales anymore.

Speaking of fairy tales.....have you seen the views of the Democrat candidates for President???

I strongly disagree with the religion being taught in the schools....Militant Secularism



“The secularists Stewart represents just refuse to acknowledge that their religious beliefs are in fact religious beliefs, and of a far creepier and deadlier kind than Christians’.

….the belief that it is possible to fix the world by applying government pressure? That is not a belief that can be wholly validated by research or experience. In fact, research and experience both indicate that central planning usually makes life even more nasty, brutish, and short.

So what is this unfounded, undocumented, unprovable faith in government power to correct human psyches and behavior if not a religious (metaphysical) belief? It is also an unprovable and metaphysical belief about what a human is — a thing that can be “corrected” by politics and whose “error” is not intrinsic to itself. Again, these are all metaphysical, religious beliefs with no empirical basis or possibility of being fully empirically proven.

The secular, pagan, atheist types are the ones who claim religious assumptions are evil. They do so because they erroneously believe they are free from such assumptions. But in truth, no one is.”” Barr: The People Trying To 'Impose Their Values' Are 'Militant Secularists'





"The Left says of the Right, “You fools, it is demonstrable that dinosaurs lived one hundred million years ago, I can prove it to you, how can you say the earth was created in 4000BCE?” But this supposed intransigence on the part of the Religious Right is far less detrimental to the health of the body politic than the Left’s love affair with Marxism, Socialism, Racialism, the Command Economy, all of which have been proven via one hundred years of evidence shows only shortages, despotism and murder."
David Mamet.


Feel free to take notes....

You're gaslighting us by saying that scientific facts are some kind of religion. Religions are very resistant to change, while science demands change when new facts are uncovered.

'Science' caves in to political correctness nonsense all the time, so your premise is rubbish; 'science' is also for sale to anybody willing to pay a scientist to say whatever they want.

PC isn't really representative of conservatives, anyway, so responding to her posts as if they're serious is pointless; they belong in the Conspiratard Forum, actually, but she gets more attention here so she and her fellow cranks spam this Forum instead. Cuz, like, if you don't repeatedly explode her weirdo propaganda for the 1,230,988,964th time, it means no one ever did and she claims you can't. lol she has learned a lot form Democrats, obviously.

"PC isn't really representative of conservatives, anyway, so responding to her posts as if they're serious is pointless; "

And yet, here you are.

Put your hoof in your mouth again, huh?

 

[Dick Foster]

View attachment 306028
René Descartes
FRENCH MATHEMATICIAN AND PHILOSOPHER
BORN
March 31, 1596
La Haye, France
DIED
February 11, 1650 (aged 53)
Stockholm, Sweden
(Anniversary tomorrow)




1. Aristotle, Plato and Descartes are on a plane. The flight attendant comes by to take their drink orders. She asks Aristotle if he'd like a beverage. Aristotle says, "I'll have a ginger ale."
"And how about you, Mr. Plato?"
Plato says "Diet Coke, please."
She says, "and Mr. Descartes, anything to drink for you?"
Descartes says, "I think not," and disappears.



2. Rene Descartes postulated that, rather than a rapid seven day timeline, the sequence that resulted in the formation of the earth was far more eventful. 1637. Rene Descartes: Discours de la Methode. Descartes constructed a history of the Earth which was quite influential; it was the starting point for many later cosmogonies. Some of the main points of his system were that the Earth formed as a fiery ball, that when it cooled a crust formed over the abyssal waters, and that this crust collapsed, releasing massive volumes of water. Changing Views of the History of the Earth

a. Interestingly, Descartes continues to see the hand of God in the creation. In chapter six of Le Monde, he states that at the first instant of creation, God provides the parts with different properties, and after that He does not intervene supernaturally to regulate same. http://assets.cambridge.org/97805218/08972/sample/9780521808972ws.pdf


3. "Seattle Public Schools Want to Teach Social Justice in Math Class."
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/seattle-public-schools-proposal-teach-social-justice-in-math-class/

Other than self preservation, clearly the true aim of a Democrat run public education system is to perpetuate an ignorant and stupid population that is incapable of thinking for itself.

 

[PoliticalChic]

40 days and 40 nights of rain- two of every species on a boat-Seattle Public Schools have achieved complete stupidity.

The reason for the first line?

Probably because it was the kind of nonsense we were taught in public schools when I was younger. Thankfully, the USSC saw the light and didn't make everyone bow to one sect's fairy tales anymore.

Speaking of fairy tales.....have you seen the views of the Democrat candidates for President???

I strongly disagree with the religion being taught in the schools....Militant Secularism



“The secularists Stewart represents just refuse to acknowledge that their religious beliefs are in fact religious beliefs, and of a far creepier and deadlier kind than Christians’.

….the belief that it is possible to fix the world by applying government pressure? That is not a belief that can be wholly validated by research or experience. In fact, research and experience both indicate that central planning usually makes life even more nasty, brutish, and short.

So what is this unfounded, undocumented, unprovable faith in government power to correct human psyches and behavior if not a religious (metaphysical) belief? It is also an unprovable and metaphysical belief about what a human is — a thing that can be “corrected” by politics and whose “error” is not intrinsic to itself. Again, these are all metaphysical, religious beliefs with no empirical basis or possibility of being fully empirically proven.

The secular, pagan, atheist types are the ones who claim religious assumptions are evil. They do so because they erroneously believe they are free from such assumptions. But in truth, no one is.”” Barr: The People Trying To 'Impose Their Values' Are 'Militant Secularists'





"The Left says of the Right, “You fools, it is demonstrable that dinosaurs lived one hundred million years ago, I can prove it to you, how can you say the earth was created in 4000BCE?” But this supposed intransigence on the part of the Religious Right is far less detrimental to the health of the body politic than the Left’s love affair with Marxism, Socialism, Racialism, the Command Economy, all of which have been proven via one hundred years of evidence shows only shortages, despotism and murder."
David Mamet.


Feel free to take notes....

So send your kids to a zealot (religious bigot) schools.

"So send your kids to a zealot (religious bigot) schools."



It appears you go out of your way to prove how truly stupid you are.

1. Urban parochial schools were serving a growing share of disadvantaged and frequently non-Catholic youngsters. In a study published in 1990, for example, the Rand Corporation found that, of the Catholic school students in these Catholic high schools in New York City, 75 to 90 percent were black or Hispanic.

i. Over 66 percent of the Catholic school graduates received the New York State Regents diploma to signify completion of an academically demanding college preparatory curriculum, while only about 5 percent of the public school students received this distinction;

ii. The Catholic high schools graduated 95 percent of their students each year, while the public schools graduated slightly more 50 percent of their senior class;

iii. The Catholic school students achieved an average combined SAT score of 803, while the public school students' average combined SAT score was 642;

iv. 60 percent of the Catholic school black students scored above the national average for black students on the SAT, and over 70 percent of public school black students scored below the same national average.

« More recent studies confirm these observations. http://www.heritage.org/research/urbanissues/bg1128.cfm


"Classes in Catholic parochial schools tended to be larger than in private schools in general. More than 62 percent of the Catholic parochial schools had an average class size of 25 or more, a substantially higher proportion than private schools overall (36 percent)."
Private Schools in the United States: A Statistical Profile, 1993-94 / Catholic-Parochial Schools



"Catholic schools are attractive to non-Catholics for several reasons, parents and Catholic educators say. They offer the close supervision and small classes of private schools at a fraction of the cost - often as little as $1,000 a year. Most important, along with academics, many parents say, is that Catholic schools provide discipline and instruct students in morals and values through their religious teaching." More Non-Catholic Students Trying Catholic Schools





Government schools don't educate.....you're a perfect example.

 

[PoliticalChic]

40 days and 40 nights of rain- two of every species on a boat-Seattle Public Schools have achieved complete stupidity.

The reason for the first line?

Probably because it was the kind of nonsense we were taught in public schools when I was younger. Thankfully, the USSC saw the light and didn't make everyone bow to one sect's fairy tales anymore.

Speaking of fairy tales.....have you seen the views of the Democrat candidates for President???

I strongly disagree with the religion being taught in the schools....Militant Secularism



“The secularists Stewart represents just refuse to acknowledge that their religious beliefs are in fact religious beliefs, and of a far creepier and deadlier kind than Christians’.

….the belief that it is possible to fix the world by applying government pressure? That is not a belief that can be wholly validated by research or experience. In fact, research and experience both indicate that central planning usually makes life even more nasty, brutish, and short.

So what is this unfounded, undocumented, unprovable faith in government power to correct human psyches and behavior if not a religious (metaphysical) belief? It is also an unprovable and metaphysical belief about what a human is — a thing that can be “corrected” by politics and whose “error” is not intrinsic to itself. Again, these are all metaphysical, religious beliefs with no empirical basis or possibility of being fully empirically proven.

The secular, pagan, atheist types are the ones who claim religious assumptions are evil. They do so because they erroneously believe they are free from such assumptions. But in truth, no one is.”” Barr: The People Trying To 'Impose Their Values' Are 'Militant Secularists'





"The Left says of the Right, “You fools, it is demonstrable that dinosaurs lived one hundred million years ago, I can prove it to you, how can you say the earth was created in 4000BCE?” But this supposed intransigence on the part of the Religious Right is far less detrimental to the health of the body politic than the Left’s love affair with Marxism, Socialism, Racialism, the Command Economy, all of which have been proven via one hundred years of evidence shows only shortages, despotism and murder."
David Mamet.


Feel free to take notes....

In my experience, extremism for any cause, ideological, religious, etc. is an evil. Societies are complex, so to think there is only one solution to every problem is naive. The world needs both artists and scientists, atheists and popes, government and individuals, etc. Even communism, socialism, and capitalism have their roles to play in a balanced society.

You're our expert???


So…you’re a government school grad?

“Yes I am (and my wife and kids are too) and I'm not ashamed of it. “

Easy To Convince The Uneducated




As I recall, you couldn't name any books you have ever read......


Fits.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Religions are very resistant to change,

Knowledge evolves.

Everything evolves, religion included.

In that case you should be able to name a number of changes in Islam in 1400 years.......


Go right ahead.


It appears government school allows one to simply make stuff up.

 

[alang1216]

In my experience, extremism for any cause, ideological, religious, etc. is an evil. Societies are complex, so to think there is only one solution to every problem is naive. The world needs both artists and scientists, atheists and popes, government and individuals, etc. Even communism, socialism, and capitalism have their roles to play in a balanced society.

You're our expert???


So…you’re a government school grad?

“Yes I am (and my wife and kids are too) and I'm not ashamed of it. “

Easy To Convince The Uneducated




As I recall, you couldn't name any books you have ever read......


Fits.

There are things you'll learn in a government school you'll never learn in an ivory tower. It's called street cred.

I think you misunderstood, it's not that I couldn't, it was just that I didn't. This is the last book I finished (last week):

Forged: Writing in the Name of God – Why the Bible's Authors Are Not Who We Think They Are is a book by the biblical scholar Bart D. Ehrman. Although it has long been recognised that numerous books of the New Testament bear names of authors who are unlikely to have written them, it has often been said that it was an accepted practice in antiquity for a writer to attribute his work to a well-known figure from the past, or a teacher who has greatly influenced him.

Forged contends that this is incorrect and the practice would have been condemned as dishonest by all authorities in antiquity. Falsely attributed writings are often referred to as "pseudepigraphs" but Ehrman maintains that the more honest term is "forgery". The book posits that 11 or more books out of the 27 books of the Christian New Testament canon were written as forgeries.[1] In his book, Ehrman points out numerous inconsistencies which he finds within the New Testament which appear to support many of his claims, such as the fact that in Acts 4:13 the statement is made that both Peter and John were illiterate, yet in later years entire books of the Bible were then alleged to have been written by them.​

Highly recommended.

 

[PoliticalChic]

40 days and 40 nights of rain- two of every species on a boat-Seattle Public Schools have achieved complete stupidity.

The reason for the first line?

Probably because it was the kind of nonsense we were taught in public schools when I was younger. Thankfully, the USSC saw the light and didn't make everyone bow to one sect's fairy tales anymore.

Speaking of fairy tales.....have you seen the views of the Democrat candidates for President???

I strongly disagree with the religion being taught in the schools....Militant Secularism



“The secularists Stewart represents just refuse to acknowledge that their religious beliefs are in fact religious beliefs, and of a far creepier and deadlier kind than Christians’.

….the belief that it is possible to fix the world by applying government pressure? That is not a belief that can be wholly validated by research or experience. In fact, research and experience both indicate that central planning usually makes life even more nasty, brutish, and short.

So what is this unfounded, undocumented, unprovable faith in government power to correct human psyches and behavior if not a religious (metaphysical) belief? It is also an unprovable and metaphysical belief about what a human is — a thing that can be “corrected” by politics and whose “error” is not intrinsic to itself. Again, these are all metaphysical, religious beliefs with no empirical basis or possibility of being fully empirically proven.

The secular, pagan, atheist types are the ones who claim religious assumptions are evil. They do so because they erroneously believe they are free from such assumptions. But in truth, no one is.”” Barr: The People Trying To 'Impose Their Values' Are 'Militant Secularists'





"The Left says of the Right, “You fools, it is demonstrable that dinosaurs lived one hundred million years ago, I can prove it to you, how can you say the earth was created in 4000BCE?” But this supposed intransigence on the part of the Religious Right is far less detrimental to the health of the body politic than the Left’s love affair with Marxism, Socialism, Racialism, the Command Economy, all of which have been proven via one hundred years of evidence shows only shortages, despotism and murder."
David Mamet.


Feel free to take notes....

You're gaslighting us by saying that scientific facts are some kind of religion. Religions are very resistant to change, while science demands change when new facts are uncovered.

"Us"????

You have a tapeworm???


Why are Liberals so afraid to stand up by and for themselves.



You didn't read Barr's quote carefully.....he makes clear that Liberalism taught in the government schools fits the definition of a religion.


"The secularists Stewart represents just refuse to acknowledge that their religious beliefs are in fact religious beliefs, and of a far creepier and deadlier kind than Christians’.

….the belief that it is possible to fix the world by applying government pressure? That is not a belief that can be wholly validated by research or experience. In fact, research and experience both indicate that central planning usually makes life even more nasty, brutish, and short.

So what is this unfounded, undocumented, unprovable faith in government power to correct human psyches and behavior if not a religious (metaphysical) belief? It is also an unprovable and metaphysical belief about what a human is — a thing that can be “corrected” by politics and whose “error” is not intrinsic to itself. Again, these are all metaphysical, religious beliefs with no empirical basis or possibility of being fully empirically proven.

The secular, pagan, atheist types are the ones who claim religious assumptions are evil. They do so because they erroneously believe they are free from such assumptions. But in truth, no one is.”” Barr: The People Trying To 'Impose Their Values' Are 'Militant Secularists'


In case you miss it a second time:

unfounded, undocumented, unprovable faith in government power

"You're gaslighting us by saying that scientific facts are some kind of religion. "


Global warming and evolution are taught as though they are facts.
They aren't.....there is no scientific proof of either.

They are unfounded, undocumented, unprovable faith in government power, articles of faith of the religion of Militant Secularism.


From the Amazon review of Godless, by Coulter…


Though liberalism rejects the idea of God and reviles people of faith, it bears all the attributes of a religion. In Godless, Coulter throws open the doors of the Church of Liberalism, showing us its sacraments (abortion), its holy writ (Roe v. Wade), its martyrs (from Soviet spy Alger Hiss to cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal), its clergy (public school teachers), its churches (government schools, where prayer is prohibited but condoms are free), its doctrine of infallibility (as manifest in the "absolute moral authority" of spokesmen from Cindy Sheehan to Max Cleland), and its cosmology (in which mankind is an inconsequential accident).

Then, of course, there's the liberal creation myth: Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.

For liberals, evolution is the touchstone that separates the enlightened from the benighted.
And....Franklin Delano Roosevelt, "...the Socialist Savior of the Democratic Party."

the Catechism: you didn't build that.....any success is just dumb luck


Sen. Mazie Hirono (D., Hawaii) on Tuesday called for liberal activists to believe in climate change as if it were a "religion." Dem Senator Hirono: Believe in Climate Change Like a Religion

 

[konradv]

40 days and 40 nights of rain- two of every species on a boat-Seattle Public Schools have achieved complete stupidity.

The reason for the first line?

Probably because it was the kind of nonsense we were taught in public schools when I was younger. Thankfully, the USSC saw the light and didn't make everyone bow to one sect's fairy tales anymore.

Speaking of fairy tales.....have you seen the views of the Democrat candidates for President???

I strongly disagree with the religion being taught in the schools....Militant Secularism



“The secularists Stewart represents just refuse to acknowledge that their religious beliefs are in fact religious beliefs, and of a far creepier and deadlier kind than Christians’.

….the belief that it is possible to fix the world by applying government pressure? That is not a belief that can be wholly validated by research or experience. In fact, research and experience both indicate that central planning usually makes life even more nasty, brutish, and short.

So what is this unfounded, undocumented, unprovable faith in government power to correct human psyches and behavior if not a religious (metaphysical) belief? It is also an unprovable and metaphysical belief about what a human is — a thing that can be “corrected” by politics and whose “error” is not intrinsic to itself. Again, these are all metaphysical, religious beliefs with no empirical basis or possibility of being fully empirically proven.

The secular, pagan, atheist types are the ones who claim religious assumptions are evil. They do so because they erroneously believe they are free from such assumptions. But in truth, no one is.”” Barr: The People Trying To 'Impose Their Values' Are 'Militant Secularists'





"The Left says of the Right, “You fools, it is demonstrable that dinosaurs lived one hundred million years ago, I can prove it to you, how can you say the earth was created in 4000BCE?” But this supposed intransigence on the part of the Religious Right is far less detrimental to the health of the body politic than the Left’s love affair with Marxism, Socialism, Racialism, the Command Economy, all of which have been proven via one hundred years of evidence shows only shortages, despotism and murder."
David Mamet.


Feel free to take notes....

You're gaslighting us by saying that scientific facts are some kind of religion. Religions are very resistant to change, while science demands change when new facts are uncovered.

'Science' caves in to political correctness nonsense all the time, so your premise is rubbish; 'science' is also for sale to anybody willing to pay a scientist to say whatever they want.

That's crap formulated so that you don't have to pay attention to inconvenient facts. Whatever some may have done "all the time" is a TOTAL LIE perpetrated by those who have their own form of PC.

 

[bripat9643]

View attachment 306028
René Descartes
FRENCH MATHEMATICIAN AND PHILOSOPHER
BORN
March 31, 1596
La Haye, France
DIED
February 11, 1650 (aged 53)
Stockholm, Sweden
(Anniversary tomorrow)




1. Aristotle, Plato and Descartes are on a plane. The flight attendant comes by to take their drink orders. She asks Aristotle if he'd like a beverage. Aristotle says, "I'll have a ginger ale."
"And how about you, Mr. Plato?"
Plato says "Diet Coke, please."
She says, "and Mr. Descartes, anything to drink for you?"
Descartes says, "I think not," and disappears.



2. Rene Descartes postulated that, rather than a rapid seven day timeline, the sequence that resulted in the formation of the earth was far more eventful. 1637. Rene Descartes: Discours de la Methode. Descartes constructed a history of the Earth which was quite influential; it was the starting point for many later cosmogonies. Some of the main points of his system were that the Earth formed as a fiery ball, that when it cooled a crust formed over the abyssal waters, and that this crust collapsed, releasing massive volumes of water. Changing Views of the History of the Earth

a. Interestingly, Descartes continues to see the hand of God in the creation. In chapter six of Le Monde, he states that at the first instant of creation, God provides the parts with different properties, and after that He does not intervene supernaturally to regulate same. http://assets.cambridge.org/97805218/08972/sample/9780521808972ws.pdf


3. "Seattle Public Schools Want to Teach Social Justice in Math Class."
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/seattle-public-schools-proposal-teach-social-justice-in-math-class/

What do you want to talk about how dumb Seattle Schools are??

I think the social justice should be included in Stem courses, so how would any know that minorities have been discriminated against in the workplace and in schools. It will help minorities in my opinion and should move minorities along with whites to excel in stem courses.

Blacks and Hispanics are underrepresented in science, technology, engineering and math jobs, relative to their presence in the overall U.S. workforce, particularly among workers with a bachelor’s degree or higher.

Racial diversity and discrimination in the U.S. STEM workforce

You conservatives really have a issue with social justice, I wonder why?

"Social justice" is another name for "injustice."