I bet ANYTHING Trump was one of them who was against them, too, just like he is masks.
Before face masks, Americans went to war against seat belts
"There was a libertarian streak among resistors," Ralph Nader told Business Insider.
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- A small but vocal minority of people in the US are protesting face-mask mandates.
- In the early 1980s, the public-safety battle was over seat belts. Most Americans didn't use them, and 65% opposed them being enforced by law.
- "There was a libertarian streak among resistors," car-safety pioneer Ralph Nader told Business Insider. "They took the stance that 'you're not going to tie the American people up in seat belts.'"
- More than 50 years after "Unsafe at Any Speed," Nader said, "We are a very hard society to change cognitively.""""
So let's take the politics out of this mask thing and get healthy again!
Protect yourself, protect your friends and take your tip from the scientists and docs!
both should be up to the individual. Mandating personal behavior never works, depriving people of individual freedom is unconstitutional.
and don't give me the BS about the "common good" that phrase was used by Hitler and Mao before the murdered millions and brainwashed millions more.
If you don't like "common good", how about community consciousness.
equally stupid. How about individual freedom and responsibility?
Your freedom to not wear a mask should end within 6 feet of others. It should be your responsibility as a member of your community to do what you can to stop the spread of a diaereses in an epidemic. There should be no need for laws and enforcement. However, about 20% of the people in the US will refuse to wear masks because they just don't give a shit about others or they feel it's their right to say no. This is the kind of issue that gives strength to the argument that democracy is the enemy of the people.
By the end of this week, our total amount of people who had this thing will be about 4 million. None of those people need a mask now since it's very unlikely they will ever get it again, yet alone spread it. Plus God knows how many had it that we never accounted for since our testing was so poor at the beginning, and doctors couldn't determine if Covid was the cause of reported illnesses.
I found out a friend of mine had it when she posted it on Facebook. I commented on her post. She told me she thought it was her annual sinus problems that she gets in summer. If not for the headaches, she would have never went to the doctor. I'm sure there are millions like my friend; symptoms so minor it's not worth seeking medical attention for. Whatever it is, they just ride it out until they feel better.
There is no scientific evidence that testing positive provides you with any immunity and if it does, that immunity may only last a few weeks. Since the population is about 330 million and 4 million have tested positive that leaves 326 million left. This does not support your claim that the 4 million nor any of the 326 million should not be wearing masks.
Whether you have symptoms or not, if you test positive for covid 19, you have the virus and you can transmit it to others regardless of whether you have symptoms or not. This is why we ask such people to quarantine. About half of the people that report no symptoms when they are tested later developed symptoms. In most cases those symptom are similar to the flu and a few days in bed and they are able to function normally. However, 20% of those that test positive, regardless of whether they have symptoms at that time or not, they require hospitalization.
I wear a mask, but if I were able to get the antibody test, and found out I had it at some point, I wouldn't wear a mask at all. While we don't have the evidence to support getting it will make you immune, they are basing that theory on similar viruses. If you get the flu one year, you will not get it again that season unless there are other strains still out there. The reason one recovers from such a virus is because once you get it, your body builds antibodies to fight it. Those antibodies will not go away. They will stay with you for the rest of your life.
So lets say we found out that 20 million people got this thing, most of which we never knew about, and we also find that .5% got it again. Is that any reason to make all 20 million wear masks?
Immunity to a virus is not guaranteed by having antibodies. The duration of any immunity can stretch from just a few weeks to a life time depending on the virus and antibody response. Also, understand that immunity due to having antibodies is not 100% effective. Just as vaccines typically run from about 40% to 80% effective so does antibodies from a previous infection. Another factor that determines whether you are successful in fighting off the virus is your bodies ability to create T cells (white bood cells that fight off diseases). It is not so simple as just getting infected or getting a vaccine and you're fully protected. It just doesn't work that way.
The bottom line is being previously infected with the virus or being inoculated with a vaccine will not guaranteed that you will not get infected. The good news is that having the antibodies in your system gives you a leg up in fighting the disease which usually means a less serious case.
In regard to getting a positive antibody test and dumping the mask, having antibodies to the virus that causes COVID-19 may provide protection from getting infected with the virus again. If it does, we do not know how much protection the antibodies may provide or how long this protection may last, thus you should wear the mask because you could spread the virus.
The greatest protection occurs by reaching herd immunity because the virus will not have enough available hosts to survive. The likelihood of that happening anytime in the foreseeable future is not good because surveys are showing that only 50% Americans will be vaccinated.
What vaccines do is the same thing the virus itself does: get you to create antibodies. Guaranteed? Nothing is guaranteed. But as I stated earlier, by the end of this week, over 4 million Americans (that we know of) will have had this thing. Even if 1,000 got it again, is that enough to make all the other 4 million wear masks?
There may be some people that get enjoyment out of wearing a mask in public, particularly criminals, but as for most of us, we feel a huge loss in freedom. Some are more patient than others. Others refused to comply with masks and still do. Some believe that wearing a mask for a long period of time also creates health risks There are people who believe the Covid numbers are over counted. Some feel under counted. Many of us believe the Covid deaths were not actually caused by the virus itself, but because they had it when they died, it's listed as a Covid death. Then of course we can't ignore the political factor in all this either. With the previous administration, we've all seen just how underhanded politics and power can get.
I think the point you are missing is that we have no scientific evidence to base a conclusion that having developed antibodies affords any long term protection form the virus. Typically immunity declines with time. Immunity can fade rapidly or last many years. We simple do not know and probably won't for at least a year or so how long immunity from the antibodies lasts and how effective it is at preventing the virus. Without that information, the CDC is not going to recommend unmasking because you have antibodies.
In regard to over counting covid 19 deaths, I disagree. First, no one gets admitted to a covid ward without a positive covid 19 test and blood tests that shows markers of the disease. Second, When you are admitted to a covid word, you will almost surely be given a CT Scan which will show clearly whether the virus is present in the lungs. If you die without the presence of virus in the lungs you will not be recorded as a Covid 19 death even thou the virus is in your body.
So just because you are in a Covid ward and you die does not necessary mean you will be recorded as a covid 19 death.
I believe the number of covid 19 cases have been
under counted. A study published in JAMA Internal Medicine which has been accepted by American Institute of health concluded that a substantial number of deaths caused by covid 19 were never confirmed. The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19% higher, than what would normally be expected, according to the researchers. Of the 122,300 excess deaths, 95,235 were attributed to Covid-19. This means there maybe an under count by as much as 29%.
There are a number of possible reasons for this under count. People with terminal disease that die at home are not usually tested for covid 19. However, t
he more likely source lies in the assumption that covid 19 has to be in the lungs to cause death. In the last few months we've found that some people that have died with heart attacks and kidney failure had very significant covid 19 infections in the heart or kidneys which could be responsible for their death, however they were not listed as a covid death.
