Barrack Obama to reduce size of government

[driveby]

Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid add up to $53 Trillion in Unfunded obligations over the next 30 years as the Baby Boom generation retires. All three of those were put in place by liberals,and these programs are going to bankrupt the US. We may not recover from it.

Meanwhile Obama is promising more stuff we cannot afford.. Universal Healthcare down payment 678 Billion. This is what liberals do, promise things to buy votes, dumb people think they are getting something for free, so they vote for liberals. But the debt is coming due in the next 30 years.

Every other developed nation on Earth can afford to provide basic health care for its citizens.

But the richest country in the world can't. America, the country of can't.

That's the loser kind of talk you hear a lot from the right these days.

Every other nation that provides it taxes the shit out of it's citizens to provide it and it's quality is subpar to America's. I'm sure you meant to put that part in, but just forgot.....

 

[elvis]

It was conservatives, not liberals who elected Bush. Trying to say they didn't is denying reality. However, I will agree with you in my experience most conservatives are not not knowledgable and maybe that's why they voted for him.

conservatives and moderates elected Bush. If only conservs had voted for him, he would have lost. Obama TRIPLING Bush's deficit does not make him a better president. I also like how you make judgements about an entire group of people based on how they voted.

LOL - it was the "moderates" fault!

it was the democrats' fault for nominating John Kerry.

 

[theunbubba]

obama isnt going to cut anything. the money will just be shuffled around. the dept of education should be eliminated. can anyone name anything dept of education employees do all day other than shuffle paper around? what improvements in education have they produced?

At the very least it should be renamed the Ministry of Propaganda.

 

[Iriemon]

Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid add up to $53 Trillion in Unfunded obligations over the next 30 years as the Baby Boom generation retires. All three of those were put in place by liberals,and these programs are going to bankrupt the US. We may not recover from it.

Meanwhile Obama is promising more stuff we cannot afford.. Universal Healthcare down payment 678 Billion. This is what liberals do, promise things to buy votes, dumb people think they are getting something for free, so they vote for liberals. But the debt is coming due in the next 30 years.

Every other developed nation on Earth can afford to provide basic health care for its citizens.

But the richest country in the world can't. America, the country of can't.

That's the loser kind of talk you hear a lot from the right these days.

Every other nation that provides it taxes the shit out of it's citizens to provide it and it's quality is subpar to America's. I'm sure you meant to put that part in, but just forgot.....

America's life expectancy and infant mortality rates are among the worst in developed countries. I'm sure you meant to put that part in, but just forgot.....

 

[Iriemon]

conservatives and moderates elected Bush. If only conservs had voted for him, he would have lost. Obama TRIPLING Bush's deficit does not make him a better president. I also like how you make judgements about an entire group of people based on how they voted.

LOL - it was the "moderates" fault!

it was the democrats' fault for nominating John Kerry.

Well, you got a point there.

 

[Evangelical]

Every other developed nation on Earth can afford to provide basic health care for its citizens.

But the richest country in the world can't. America, the country of can't.

That's the loser kind of talk you hear a lot from the right these days.

Every other nation that provides it taxes the shit out of it's citizens to provide it and it's quality is subpar to America's. I'm sure you meant to put that part in, but just forgot.....

America's life expectancy and infant mortality rates are among the worst in developed countries. I'm sure you meant to put that part in, but just forgot.....

Not white Americans. White Americans are among the highest, as high as Japan.

Blacks are bringing the average down.

 

[Iriemon]

Every other nation that provides it taxes the shit out of it's citizens to provide it and it's quality is subpar to America's. I'm sure you meant to put that part in, but just forgot.....

America's life expectancy and infant mortality rates are among the worst in developed countries. I'm sure you meant to put that part in, but just forgot.....

Not white Americans. White Americans are among the highest, as high as Japan.

Blacks are bringing the average down.

I don't know that to be true, but I'll take your word for it for purposes of this argument.

So what is your point? Blacks aren't people and therefore shouldn't be counted when looking at statistitics measure whether our health care system does a crappy job or not?

 

[xsited1]

This just in!

Obama: Cut the Budget by 1/35,000th

Obama Orders $100 Million in Budget Cuts, Worries About 'Confidence Gap' - First 100 Days of Presidency - Politics FOXNews.com

 

[Sinatra]

This just in!

Obama: Cut the Budget by 1/35,000th

Obama Orders $100 Million in Budget Cuts, Worries About 'Confidence Gap' - First 100 Days of Presidency - Politics FOXNews.com

You beat me to it. When I heard the amount of $100 million I had to just laugh.

With overall spending surpassing the trillion mark, Obama comes out and proudly reports he is going to cut 1/10th of a billion from government?

It is astonishing this is even being played as news - it is an affront to even the most basic understanding of how much $$$ our federal government spends each year. And as Obama is pushing the deficit to well over 10 trillion dollars, a speculative reduction in government program costs of 100 million is seen as something to celebrate?

This is akin to someone maxing out the $20k limit on their credit card, and then not buying a $5 Happy Meal and proudly exclaiming they are living within their means.

Good lord people - this administration is quickly becoming the Spinal Tap of politics!

 

[Sinatra]

This just in!

Obama: Cut the Budget by 1/35,000th

Obama Orders $100 Million in Budget Cuts, Worries About 'Confidence Gap' - First 100 Days of Presidency - Politics FOXNews.com

You beat me to it. When I heard the amount of $100 million I had to just laugh.

With overall spending surpassing the trillion mark, Obama comes out and proudly reports he is going to cut 1/10th of a billion from government?

It is astonishing this is even being played as news - it is an affront to even the most basic understanding of how much $$$ our federal government spends each year. And as Obama is pushing the deficit to well over 10 trillion dollars, a speculative reduction in government program costs of 100 million is seen as something to celebrate?

This is akin to someone maxing out the $20k limit on their credit card, and then not buying a $5 Happy Meal and proudly exclaiming they are living within their means.

Good lord people - this administration is quickly becoming the Spinal Tap of politics!

,,,

 

[Evangelical]

Isn't it $100 Billion dollars? Even so in the face of $4 trillion that's a piss in the pool.

 

[driveby]

Every other developed nation on Earth can afford to provide basic health care for its citizens.

But the richest country in the world can't. America, the country of can't.

That's the loser kind of talk you hear a lot from the right these days.

Every other nation that provides it taxes the shit out of it's citizens to provide it and it's quality is subpar to America's. I'm sure you meant to put that part in, but just forgot.....

America's life expectancy and infant mortality rates are among the worst in developed countries. I'm sure you meant to put that part in, but just forgot.....

Rates as in numbers, not percentages ? Not that i'm exactly taking your word for it........

 

[Sinatra]

Isn't it $100 Billion dollars? Even so in the face of $4 trillion that's a piss in the pool.

NO - it is a proposed $100 million.

It is politics to the point of outright satire!

As I said, this administration has just entered the political equivilent of Spinal Tap.

This is their Stonehenge moment...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXGbwIkvh38[/ame]

 

[Newby]

"Every other developed nation on Earth can afford to provide basic health care for its citizens."

MAny others indeed do, but they are going broke, European socialists are right now struggling with an aging population and out of control healthcare costs. Their model is not one to follow. People are dying waiting for care. They come to America and elsewhere for care.

"But the richest country in the world can't. America, the country of can't. "

America is not the richest country in the world. We are currently 10.6 Trillion dollars in debt because people think for some reason that if the government does something it is for free. No it is not free, the politician simply promises liberals all kinds of things, then goes and prints US savings bonds (debt) and sells it on the world market. But the world is beginning to shy away from US debt. China is now selling US savings bonds, and the US government had to buy its own savings bonds with its' own printed money.


"That's the loser kind of talk you hear a lot from the right these days."

I understand the moral / social justice argument, that in principle all people should be taken care of. The question is not whether or not it is good to house, feed, clothe and provide all kinds of help to people. The question is how to do it in a financially sustainable way, without using the power of the government to force people to do things that they would not normally do.

Liberals believe if we pass laws that take from the rich and give to the poor, we will have a more compassionate society. But the definition of compassion is not what you can force your neighbor to do, it is what you are freely willing to do yourself. Do not call yourself compassionate because you are willing to threaten your neighbor with jail if he does not pay taxes that support your ideas. That is not compassion, it is tyranny.

WHen you force people to give, you destroy the proper relationship between givers and receivers. IF a man is forced to give, he is indignant, and will refuse to give any more than what the government mandates. The receiver feels entitled, not grateful, because he is responding to the class envy rhetoric of the left. He hates the giver because he is envious. So we have indignance and hate, not a compassionate society.

The proper approach to a more compassionate society is to inspire people to greater freely given good, not to put a gun to their head and say give me your money.

excellent post

 

[zvhorn]

OHHH BOY...now we are in trouble. This is what liberals just don't understand. (and most of the republican party as well.) YOU CAN'T CUT TAXES AND INCREASE SPENDING!!!!!!!!!! IT DOES NOT WORK! Thats like me taking a pay cut from my job and then increasing my monthly expenses. Can anyone guess where that path is going to lead me?!?!?!

 

[Iriemon]

Every other nation that provides it taxes the shit out of it's citizens to provide it and it's quality is subpar to America's. I'm sure you meant to put that part in, but just forgot.....

America's life expectancy and infant mortality rates are among the worst in developed countries. I'm sure you meant to put that part in, but just forgot.....

Rates as in numbers, not percentages ? Not that i'm exactly taking your word for it........

Rates as in expected age at death and deaths per 1,000 live births. The US is 45th in life expectancy, and 46th in infant mortality.

List of countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate_(2005)

(CIA Factbook)

 

[Iriemon]

OHHH BOY...now we are in trouble. This is what liberals just don't understand. (and most of the republican party as well.) YOU CAN'T CUT TAXES AND INCREASE SPENDING!!!!!!!!!! IT DOES NOT WORK! Thats like me taking a pay cut from my job and then increasing my monthly expenses. Can anyone guess where that path is going to lead me?!?!?!

Where were folks like you in 2001?

 

[Newby]

America's life expectancy and infant mortality rates are among the worst in developed countries. I'm sure you meant to put that part in, but just forgot.....

Rates as in numbers, not percentages ? Not that i'm exactly taking your word for it........

Rates as in expected age at death and deaths per 1,000 live births. The US is 45th in life expectancy, and 46th in infant mortality.

List of countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate_(2005)
(CIA Factbook)

According to your Wiki link, the U.S. would be 33rd at approximately 6.2 deaths per 1000 live births, number one was Iceland at 3 deaths per 1000 live births. Huge difference there.

 

[Skull Pilot]

OHHH BOY...now we are in trouble. This is what liberals just don't understand. (and most of the republican party as well.) YOU CAN'T CUT TAXES AND INCREASE SPENDING!!!!!!!!!! IT DOES NOT WORK! Thats like me taking a pay cut from my job and then increasing my monthly expenses. Can anyone guess where that path is going to lead me?!?!?!

Where were folks like you in 2001?

A lot of us were complaining then too. why weren't you listening?

And why are the Dimocrats defending more of the same Bush policies that they say got us here in the first place.?

 

[Iriemon]

Rates as in numbers, not percentages ? Not that i'm exactly taking your word for it........

Rates as in expected age at death and deaths per 1,000 live births. The US is 45th in life expectancy, and 46th in infant mortality.

List of countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate_(2005)
(CIA Factbook)

According to your Wiki link, the U.S. would be 33rd at approximately 6.2 deaths per 1000 live births, number one was Iceland at 3 deaths per 1000 live births. Huge difference there.

Yeah, amazing isn't it. With our supposedly superior health care system our nation has twice as many infants die at birth as Iceland, with its national health care.