toobfreak
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Color me confused.
First of all, the stated reason for banning "cuss" words is IMO, a misguided one, because it is not the WORDS that lead various threads down the crooked path, but the PEOPLE. Forcing people to use nice words won't change the direction or content of anything, but then, I just wrote a textbook on psychology, so what would I know?
OK, but how do you know a word is banned? Without some list or guide, apparently you won't know until you hit POST and a word comes up ****** instead, but this is where I get confused; I just scanned the current rules and it says this:
Foul language (profanity) will not be permitted on the boards. The site is programmed to censor such language (with these, ******) automatically. Any attempt to bypass the filter by deliberately misspelling banned words or using special characters (such as !, @, $, or *) will result in a warning and a note. Failure to adhere to this rule will result in temporary bans, if not permanent, depending on the severity.
When I joined this forum, I spoke respectfully, but got hammered to death with insults and vulgarity. The viewpoint by mods then was calling people names was just fine so long as you contributed to the topic. I finally began cussing back (I'm a great cusser) just to hold my own with many posters. This was a failure of moderation.
But often especially in the last couple of years, I would try to temper my language by misspelling words or adding ASCII characters so people knew what I meant without actually saying it, like saying no farking way, get the f@%k outta here. Mind you, no swearword was used.
But if I am to read your rule above (blue lettering) it is now a WORSE CRIME NOT TO SWEAR than it is to just keep swearing and let the system auto bleep it out! Is that true?
Who determines that a misspelled word or a non-swear word was a "deliberate attempt to bypass a filter?" If it isn't a swear word, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?
If I make up words or use characters to AVOID SWEARING, instead of being rewarded for clean language, do you really intend to declare them "an attempt to bypass the filter" and ban people for NOT swearing? I just need to hear from someone in an official capacity which is better, to jumble words to avoid actually saying a no-no, or to continue saying bad words and letting the system completely bleep it out?
You folks really need to be clear about this ambiguity for yet another half-baked crazy idea which will again fail to effect any positive change whatsoever (but to further drop donations and membership farther still), but every time this topic comes up, the thread is always closed before anyone can ask the right questions or get the needed clarification.
So which is it? Do you folks really want people to keep cussing so the system can ****** it out instead of just making up words which are no bad word at all?
Because the language of your rules states that it is a BANNABLE OFFENSE now to make up unoffensive words to AVOID swearing.
And that fails to even cover ACTUAL SWEARING and swearwords which are not on the ban-list? So it is OK to cuss and swear if the words are not banned by the programming? Because I've already seen a LOT of dirty words which folks can still say. So apparently according to the brilliantly worded rule above, it is now a worse offense NOT to swear by deliberately altering words to non-swear words than it is to ACTUALLY CUSS words that don't get blanked out?
You people really have opened a deep can of worms.
First of all, the stated reason for banning "cuss" words is IMO, a misguided one, because it is not the WORDS that lead various threads down the crooked path, but the PEOPLE. Forcing people to use nice words won't change the direction or content of anything, but then, I just wrote a textbook on psychology, so what would I know?
OK, but how do you know a word is banned? Without some list or guide, apparently you won't know until you hit POST and a word comes up ****** instead, but this is where I get confused; I just scanned the current rules and it says this:
Foul language (profanity) will not be permitted on the boards. The site is programmed to censor such language (with these, ******) automatically. Any attempt to bypass the filter by deliberately misspelling banned words or using special characters (such as !, @, $, or *) will result in a warning and a note. Failure to adhere to this rule will result in temporary bans, if not permanent, depending on the severity.
When I joined this forum, I spoke respectfully, but got hammered to death with insults and vulgarity. The viewpoint by mods then was calling people names was just fine so long as you contributed to the topic. I finally began cussing back (I'm a great cusser) just to hold my own with many posters. This was a failure of moderation.
But often especially in the last couple of years, I would try to temper my language by misspelling words or adding ASCII characters so people knew what I meant without actually saying it, like saying no farking way, get the f@%k outta here. Mind you, no swearword was used.
But if I am to read your rule above (blue lettering) it is now a WORSE CRIME NOT TO SWEAR than it is to just keep swearing and let the system auto bleep it out! Is that true?
Who determines that a misspelled word or a non-swear word was a "deliberate attempt to bypass a filter?" If it isn't a swear word, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?
If I make up words or use characters to AVOID SWEARING, instead of being rewarded for clean language, do you really intend to declare them "an attempt to bypass the filter" and ban people for NOT swearing? I just need to hear from someone in an official capacity which is better, to jumble words to avoid actually saying a no-no, or to continue saying bad words and letting the system completely bleep it out?
You folks really need to be clear about this ambiguity for yet another half-baked crazy idea which will again fail to effect any positive change whatsoever (but to further drop donations and membership farther still), but every time this topic comes up, the thread is always closed before anyone can ask the right questions or get the needed clarification.
So which is it? Do you folks really want people to keep cussing so the system can ****** it out instead of just making up words which are no bad word at all?
Because the language of your rules states that it is a BANNABLE OFFENSE now to make up unoffensive words to AVOID swearing.
And that fails to even cover ACTUAL SWEARING and swearwords which are not on the ban-list? So it is OK to cuss and swear if the words are not banned by the programming? Because I've already seen a LOT of dirty words which folks can still say. So apparently according to the brilliantly worded rule above, it is now a worse offense NOT to swear by deliberately altering words to non-swear words than it is to ACTUALLY CUSS words that don't get blanked out?
You people really have opened a deep can of worms.
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