Bakers fined for not working homosexual "wedding" continue fighting for their freedoms

[hazlnut]

 

[OKTexas]

That is the issue. You think you are God and can determine others' values for them. You do so because you are a control freak leftist and those like you had to create laws apart from the Constitution, which does protect association and religion. You would force a Jew to bake a Nazi cake so that makes you the Nazi.

In business we can. We told racists they had to serve blacks and interracial couples despite it being against their religion.

Inside their establishments, not outside it.

No shit, Sherlock. Got anything else in your bag of obvious?

The requested service extended outside the physical walls of the business, you can't force association outside the walls of the business. The poor faghadist didn't ask for an in store pick up.

Fail. If you bake and deliver for couple A, you can't refuse to do so for couple B, simply because they are (fill in protected class here...black, Muslim, gay, etc)

Sure you can, just tell the faghadist you're fully booked for that day or you taking that day off. There are more than one way to skin a cat. But I'm glad to see you fascist side coming out, thinking you can force people to associate with people they find objectionable outside their place of business.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I think a lot of these "christian" bakers are really mediocre cake decorators and when confronted with the high artistic demands of the gay clientele, they realize they don't measure up and thus make up an excuse to not take the job.

Now that is a good idea.

"I am very sorry. I'm just not good enough to do your cake justice. Try the bakery across the street."

 

[EvilCat Breath]

My oldest brother was in the draft lottery for Vietnam, you were saying how the fed don't have the authority to force people to.......

And you notice how the federal government has since corrected that?

BTW it is a State Law that the baker broke, nothing remotely federal about the case.

The point (that you either are struggling to grasp or are disingenuously ignoring) is that the state isn't empowered by the 10th Amendment to violate the U.S. Constitution or the rights of the people - as they have done.

And you think they don't hold the power to re-institute it in case of a war?

PA laws are constitutional.

PA laws are for whoever walks through the door gets served. They can sit at a table and get all the cookies they want.

The second the baker has to extend beyond that which is baked and ready for sale it's not PA anymore. It is slavery.

 

[Pop23]

I couldn't understand what you were trying to say. The bottom line is that you want to force your values onto others. That makes you an authoritarian.

Telling a company which bakes cakes for weddings that they cannot discriminate against gay customers is not "forcing your beliefs on others". That would be forcing the bakers to marry gays. No one is doing that. All they are being required to do is to bake the ******* cake.

Wrong. If it's against your religion or morals to participate in the lie that like gender relationships are equal to opposite gender then the government has gone well beyond the founder's intent. It must be rolled back, the leftists have gone too far.

So telling racists they had to serve blacks wasn't too far but telling anti gay bigots they have to serve gays is?

No, a racist would sell no cakes, no matter the type of cake.

The bakers in question would sell cake to a gay (not sure how he would know), he simply will not sell a specific design.

 

[Dragonlady]

Sure you can, just tell the faghadist you're fully booked for that day or you taking that day off. There are more than one way to skin a cat. But I'm glad to see you fascist side coming out, thinking you can force people to associate with people they find objectionable outside their place of business.

Mormons believe that blacks are the "descendants of Cain" and could refuse to hire a black person on these grounds. Do you believe that a person can refuse to hire a black person because they're Mormons?

 

[Pop23]

Sure you can, just tell the faghadist you're fully booked for that day or you taking that day off. There are more than one way to skin a cat. But I'm glad to see you fascist side coming out, thinking you can force people to associate with people they find objectionable outside their place of business.

Mormons believe that blacks are the "descendants of Cain" and could refuse to hire a black person on these grounds. Do you believe that a person can refuse to hire a black person because they're Mormons?

And this has what to do with a baker refusing to bake a single style of cake?

 

[P@triot]

Sure you can, just tell the faghadist you're fully booked for that day or you taking that day off. There are more than one way to skin a cat. But I'm glad to see you fascist side coming out, thinking you can force people to associate with people they find objectionable outside their place of business.

Mormons believe that blacks are the "descendants of Cain" and could refuse to hire a black person on these grounds. Do you believe that a person can refuse to hire a black person because they're Mormons?

Of course they have that right. For starters - how in the hell is someone going to prove what was in the mind of the business owner doing the hiring?

 

[g5000]

Sure you can, just tell the faghadist you're fully booked for that day or you taking that day off. There are more than one way to skin a cat. But I'm glad to see you fascist side coming out, thinking you can force people to associate with people they find objectionable outside their place of business.

Mormons believe that blacks are the "descendants of Cain" and could refuse to hire a black person on these grounds. Do you believe that a person can refuse to hire a black person because they're Mormons?

And this has what to do with a baker refusing to bake a single style of cake?

It's the same bogus "freedom of religion" argument. If you excuse the hypocritical hillbillies in Oregon, you have to excuse the racist in Utah.

Speaking of "what does this have to do", what does baking a cake have to do with the Bible?

 

[OKTexas]

Sure you can, just tell the faghadist you're fully booked for that day or you taking that day off. There are more than one way to skin a cat. But I'm glad to see you fascist side coming out, thinking you can force people to associate with people they find objectionable outside their place of business.

Mormons believe that blacks are the "descendants of Cain" and could refuse to hire a black person on these grounds. Do you believe that a person can refuse to hire a black person because they're Mormons?

Sure, just say you're not the person I'm looking for. See that's the funny thing about contracts, they have to benefit BOTH parties.

 

[Iceweasel]

Sure you can, just tell the faghadist you're fully booked for that day or you taking that day off. There are more than one way to skin a cat. But I'm glad to see you fascist side coming out, thinking you can force people to associate with people they find objectionable outside their place of business.

Mormons believe that blacks are the "descendants of Cain" and could refuse to hire a black person on these grounds. Do you believe that a person can refuse to hire a black person because they're Mormons?

Religion and race are in the Constitution. You idiots keep thinking sexual preferences are a race or religion. Bi-sexuals are next I guess.

LOL

 

[P@triot]

It's the same bogus "freedom of religion" argument. If you excuse the hypocritical hillbillies in Oregon, you have to excuse the racist in Utah.

Allow people freedom of thought? Gasp!!!! Noooooop! We can't have "racists". We must have G-String thought control. Allow him to lead us in Nazi goose-stepping in the exact same direction. Idiot.

 

[Pop23]

Sure you can, just tell the faghadist you're fully booked for that day or you taking that day off. There are more than one way to skin a cat. But I'm glad to see you fascist side coming out, thinking you can force people to associate with people they find objectionable outside their place of business.

Mormons believe that blacks are the "descendants of Cain" and could refuse to hire a black person on these grounds. Do you believe that a person can refuse to hire a black person because they're Mormons?

And this has what to do with a baker refusing to bake a single style of cake?

It's the same bogus "freedom of religion" argument. If you excuse the hypocritical hillbillies in Oregon, you have to excuse the racist in Utah.

Speaking of "what does this have to do", what does baking a cake have to do with the Bible?

So if I straight man claimed to be gay and was refused the gay wedding cake, would that qualify as discrimination?

And just how would the baker know?

 

[WorldWatcher]

So if I straight man claimed to be gay and was refused the gay wedding cake, would that qualify as discrimination?

1. There is no such thing as a "gay" wedding cake. If so please list the difference in ingrediants and baking process that makes the cake "gay".

2. To answer you question. Yes.

And just how would the baker know?

You said the main said he was gay, that's how the baker would know. You said he "claimed to be gay".


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[Pop23]

So if I straight man claimed to be gay and was refused the gay wedding cake, would that qualify as discrimination?

1. There is no such thing as a "gay" wedding cake. If so please list the difference in ingrediants and baking process that makes the cake "gay".

2. To answer you question. Yes.

And just how would the baker know?

You said the main said he was gay, that's how the baker would know. You said he "claimed to be gay".


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Got me, let's say he wanted a same sex wedding cake.

So by claiming he's gay places a heterosexual male into a protected group? Do I have that right?

 

[Seawytch]

I asked you before what you were doing to get rid of the Federal PA law and you said you voted for people that would. Who?

I've never said I've voted for people who would. You asked what could be done about it. I gave you a comprehensive answer which included "elect representatives that actually respect and defend the U.S. Constitution".

Here it is right here for everyone to see: Post #781

Yup, I asked plainly what you were doing to get rid of the CRA...your answer was that you're doing nothing. We understood that already. You're not doing anything about PA laws beyond whining about state and local laws. Some states rights defender you are!

 

[Seawytch]

In business we can. We told racists they had to serve blacks and interracial couples despite it being against their religion.

Inside their establishments, not outside it.

No shit, Sherlock. Got anything else in your bag of obvious?

The requested service extended outside the physical walls of the business, you can't force association outside the walls of the business. The poor faghadist didn't ask for an in store pick up.

Fail. If you bake and deliver for couple A, you can't refuse to do so for couple B, simply because they are (fill in protected class here...black, Muslim, gay, etc)

Sure you can, just tell the faghadist you're fully booked for that day or you taking that day off. There are more than one way to skin a cat. But I'm glad to see you fascist side coming out, thinking you can force people to associate with people they find objectionable outside their place of business.

If you're lying about why you're denying service, you've got nothing to worry about...well except for the lying being a sin.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Got me, let's say he wanted a same sex wedding cake.

So by claiming he's gay places a heterosexual male into a protected group? Do I have that right?

Nope.

Heterosexual = Sexual Orientation

Homosexual = Sexual Orientation

The law protects against discrimination in places of Public Accommodation based on sexual orientation. A baker can't refuse to sell a wedding cake to a male because he claims to be heterosexual either. Therefore he is already included in the "protected group".


You can't deny service to a man who is Catholic and claims to be Jewish because he's Jewish, the fact that you don't know what his religion "really" is is irrelevant to the act of discrimination.



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[dblack]

I'm soooo scared of gays because they might convert me. Then where would I be!??@#?

 

[OKTexas]

So if I straight man claimed to be gay and was refused the gay wedding cake, would that qualify as discrimination?

1. There is no such thing as a "gay" wedding cake. If so please list the difference in ingrediants and baking process that makes the cake "gay".

2. To answer you question. Yes.

And just how would the baker know?

You said the main said he was gay, that's how the baker would know. You said he "claimed to be gay".


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