Bakers fined for not working homosexual "wedding" continue fighting for their freedoms

[P@triot]

But...but...California voted against it 15 years ago

15 years ago?!? It was 2010! Just a few short years ago. My word are you a pathological liar.

 

[bodecea]

But...but...California voted against it 15 years ago

15 years ago?!? It was 2010! Just a few short years ago. My word are you a pathological liar.

California Proposition 22 (2000) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Will you apologizing to rightwinger now?

 

[P@triot]

And you fascist democrats used the courts to get you way because you couldn't otherwise force the people to agree with you....

You forgot to add "illegally used the courts" - because the federal government (of which the Supreme Court is a part of) has 0 authority over marriage. They had no legal grounds to even hear the case.

 

[bodecea]

And you fascist democrats used the courts to get you way because you couldn't otherwise force the people to agree with you....

You forgot to add "illegally used the courts" - because the federal government (of which the Supreme Court is a part of) has 0 authority over marriage. They had no legal grounds to even hear the case.

In your opinion....where did you get your Constitutional Law degree again?

 

[P@triot]

But...but...California voted against it 15 years ago

15 years ago?!? It was 2010! Just a few short years ago. My word are you a pathological liar.

California Proposition 22 (2000) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Will you apologizing to rightwinger now?

It wasn't Proposition 22, liar. It was Proposition 8. Will you admit you are a liar now?

California Proposition 8 (2008) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Pop23]

Which works deliciously well now for family and multi partner marriage with the exclussion of "one man to one woman"

If they can convince the court like gays did.....let them

It was a long road

Made far easier because the arguments are now set in stone by the courts.

It will take far less time now thanks to gays.

You might as well thank interracial marriage.....they laid the legal groundwork

But Loving left in the biological reasoning of "one man to one woman"

See the compelling state reason why family members were denied. Hmmmm Einstein?

Or has no one taught you the birds and the bees?

Quote the "left in the biological reasoning" from Loving.

"One man to one woman". There is only one biological process that can be accomplished by that coupling of biological units that can't be accomplished by same sex.

Care to hazard a guess what that might be?

 

[rightwinger]

All polls are biased in a away, due to the nature of how people react to questions, and how polls are conducted.

It also doesn't ask how people think the legalization should be achieved.

Repeated polls have all indicated that a majority of Americans now support gay marriage

Do you agree?

Polls that asked the very specific question about the SCOTUS ruling show a majority in favor of the ruling so they are okay with HOW it was legalized.

Poll: Majorities back Supreme Court rulings on marriage, Obamacare

But...but...California voted against it 15 years ago

And you fascist democrats used the courts to get you way because you couldn't otherwise force the people to agree with you....

Yes, just like we did for Loving v Virginia.

It is the haters who try to force government to enforce their hatred that are the fascists

Kind of like what the Nazis did to the Jews

 

[martybegan]

Over 99.999% of "statistics" by rightwinger are 100% fake.

Which statistics would those be?

While I agree on the trends, the poll is biased due to the use of the words legal and illegal. People will skew towards the happy word rather than the unhappy word.

Not enough to change the trends, but enough to skew it a few percentage points in both directions.

"The poll is biased" in your opinion.

All polls are biased in a away, due to the nature of how people react to questions, and how polls are conducted.

It also doesn't ask how people think the legalization should be achieved.

Repeated polls have all indicated that a majority of Americans now support gay marriage

Do you agree?

Yep, the question is do they agree with the way it was implemented.

 

[Iceweasel]

If they can convince the court like gays did.....let them

It was a long road

Made far easier because the arguments are now set in stone by the courts.

It will take far less time now thanks to gays.

You might as well thank interracial marriage.....they laid the legal groundwork

But Loving left in the biological reasoning of "one man to one woman"

See the compelling state reason why family members were denied. Hmmmm Einstein?

Or has no one taught you the birds and the bees?

Quote the "left in the biological reasoning" from Loving.

"One man to one woman". There is only one biological process that can be accomplished by that coupling of biological units that can't be accomplished by same sex.

Care to hazard a guess what that might be?

No fair, it's a trick question. Honestly, it's like they pound square pegs into round holes and ask who says it's wrong?

 

[ChrisL]

I'm still trying to figure out WHY they are so opposed to baking a cake for a homosexual wedding? It's just business. I don't understand how you can treat other people like that either.

 

[rightwinger]

I'm still trying to figure out WHY they are so opposed to baking a cake for a homosexual wedding? It's just business. I don't understand how you can treat other people like that either.

Agree...it does seem rather petty for a peripheral service

 

[P@triot]

And you fascist democrats used the courts to get you way because you couldn't otherwise force the people to agree with you....

You forgot to add "illegally used the courts" - because the federal government (of which the Supreme Court is a part of) has 0 authority over marriage. They had no legal grounds to even hear the case.

In your opinion....where did you get your Constitutional Law degree again?

It doesn't take a law degree to read the U.S. Constitution my dear. It's a 3 page document. Any idiot can read it.

But I've gone way beyond just reading the U.S. Constitution. I've read The Federalist Papers which further clarifies the founders position on the document. I've read hundreds of original writings from Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, and Benjamin Franklin each. And dozens of original writings from other founders such as Alexander Hamilton, Samuel Adams, and John Adams.

It really illustrates the mind-set of the modern-day progressive that they think a law degree is required to understand how their government functions and what their rights are. And to think progressives like to believe they lead the way in education

 

[P@triot]

I'm still trying to figure out WHY they are so opposed to baking a cake for a homosexual wedding? It's just business. I don't understand how you can treat other people like that either.

Agree...it does seem rather petty for a peripheral service

And frankly - if I was a baker, I would make the cake. Why lose out on the business?

But that's not the issue. The issue is that it violates their faith. And the government has no right to make them violate their faith. The government simply does not have the authority to tell private people on private property that they must enter into business transactions.

 

[P@triot]

I'm still trying to figure out WHY they are so opposed to baking a cake for a homosexual wedding? It's just business. I don't understand how you can treat other people like that either.

Because it violates their faith ChrisL.

 

[P@triot]

It is the haters who try to force government to enforce their hatred that are the fascists. Kind of like what the Nazis did to the Jews

So you realize that you progressives are acting like Nazis but you continue to do it anyway?

 

[martybegan]

Which statistics would those be?

While I agree on the trends, the poll is biased due to the use of the words legal and illegal. People will skew towards the happy word rather than the unhappy word.

Not enough to change the trends, but enough to skew it a few percentage points in both directions.

"The poll is biased" in your opinion.

All polls are biased in a away, due to the nature of how people react to questions, and how polls are conducted.

It also doesn't ask how people think the legalization should be achieved.

Repeated polls have all indicated that a majority of Americans now support gay marriage

Do you agree?

Polls that asked the very specific question about the SCOTUS ruling show a majority in favor of the ruling so they are okay with HOW it was legalized.

Poll: Majorities back Supreme Court rulings on marriage, Obamacare

Still does not make them right about it.

 

[ChrisL]

I'm still trying to figure out WHY they are so opposed to baking a cake for a homosexual wedding? It's just business. I don't understand how you can treat other people like that either.

Because it violates their faith ChrisL.

I think, if there's a God, he would want us to treat others with kindness and dignity. They are your brothers and sisters.

 

[ChrisL]

I'm still trying to figure out WHY they are so opposed to baking a cake for a homosexual wedding? It's just business. I don't understand how you can treat other people like that either.

Agree...it does seem rather petty for a peripheral service

Very petty indeed and hateful.

 

[martybegan]

And you fascist democrats used the courts to get you way because you couldn't otherwise force the people to agree with you....

You forgot to add "illegally used the courts" - because the federal government (of which the Supreme Court is a part of) has 0 authority over marriage. They had no legal grounds to even hear the case.

In your opinion....where did you get your Constitutional Law degree again?

A piece of paper doesn't make someone right on something, it just makes lemmings like you swoon at their credentials.

 

[P@triot]

I'm still trying to figure out WHY they are so opposed to baking a cake for a homosexual wedding? It's just business. I don't understand how you can treat other people like that either.

Because it violates their faith ChrisL.

I think, if there's a God, he would want us to treat others with kindness and dignity. They are your brothers and sisters.

He does. But the Bible also rejects homosexuality. And it's not a lack of kindness nor a lack of dignity to politely say "thanks...but no thanks - this violates my faith" when asked to bake a cake for a gay wedding.

And if that homosexual couple treated people with kindness and dignity they would respond "ok - thank you for your time. We will find someone else to bake our cake for us". Why is that so hard? Everybody wins. Freedom. Choice.