BACKFIRE: Philadelphia Implemented Soda Tax, But It Didn't Go As Planned

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The citizens of Philadelphia have been rocked by a tax on sugary drinks like soda, although the hike was intended to improve their health.

As outlined by Hotair on Saturday, the “soda tax” has actually led to Philadelphia residents traveling outside the city to buy their soda (and likely other goods), decreased the city’s revenue, and led to layoffs in the local beverage industry and cut hours for employees at small markets. It did not, however, lead to an increase in healthier beverage purchases in the city.

When the soda tax was first announced, workers at Pepsi took a hit. “With sales slumping because of the new Philadelphia sweetened beverage tax, Pepsi said Wednesday that it will lay off 80 to 100 workers at three distribution plants that serve the city,” philly.com reported in March of 2017.

And last month, the local outlet reported that the owner of Acme Markets, who has 16 stores in Philadelphia, had to cut employees’ hours because of the tax: “The beverage tax fell on about 4,000 items. In Acme city stores, soda sales dropped as much as 80 percent. Sales of other items covered by the tax, such as juices, creamers and energy drinks, were down 30 percent, and the number of customers declined by 5 percent. Philly stores cut an average of 150 to 200 employee hours per week, resulting in lighter paychecks for employees."

But the hit the employees took did not equate to a win for the “health” of its citizens. As noted by Hotair, Philadelphia residents were traveling outside the city to avoid the tax hike on their drinks.

A CNN report on a study from medical journal JAMA focused in on the 51% drop in city soda purchases, but admitted: “While researchers found that sales of sugary beverages fell in Philadelphia after the tax, beverage sales in nearby towns and counties without the tax went up. That suggests people may have been traveling to get their soda at a reduced price.”

“People stopped buying their soda in the city (and almost undoubtedly a lot of other shopping list items) and decided to shop where prices were lower,” Hotair noted.

So was there at least an uptick in healthier beverage purchases because of the tax? Nope. “Philadelphia did not see an increase in sales of untaxed beverages such as bottled water,” CNN reported.

CNN did not discuss the revenue hit Philadelphia took, but Hotair did: “The tax on soda increased by 17%, but the sales fell by 51%. So, let’s look at this assuming one million ounces of soda was sold annually before the tax went into effect. If sales had remained the same, the city would have realized $62,400.00 in revenue instead of $54,300.00. But with the volume cut in half, they managed to slash their revenue to $31,200.00.”
 
The citizens of Philadelphia have been rocked by a tax on sugary drinks like soda, although the hike was intended to improve their health.

As outlined by Hotair on Saturday, the “soda tax” has actually led to Philadelphia residents traveling outside the city to buy their soda (and likely other goods), decreased the city’s revenue, and led to layoffs in the local beverage industry and cut hours for employees at small markets. It did not, however, lead to an increase in healthier beverage purchases in the city.

When the soda tax was first announced, workers at Pepsi took a hit. “With sales slumping because of the new Philadelphia sweetened beverage tax, Pepsi said Wednesday that it will lay off 80 to 100 workers at three distribution plants that serve the city,” philly.com reported in March of 2017.

And last month, the local outlet reported that the owner of Acme Markets, who has 16 stores in Philadelphia, had to cut employees’ hours because of the tax: “The beverage tax fell on about 4,000 items. In Acme city stores, soda sales dropped as much as 80 percent. Sales of other items covered by the tax, such as juices, creamers and energy drinks, were down 30 percent, and the number of customers declined by 5 percent. Philly stores cut an average of 150 to 200 employee hours per week, resulting in lighter paychecks for employees."

But the hit the employees took did not equate to a win for the “health” of its citizens. As noted by Hotair, Philadelphia residents were traveling outside the city to avoid the tax hike on their drinks.

A CNN report on a study from medical journal JAMA focused in on the 51% drop in city soda purchases, but admitted: “While researchers found that sales of sugary beverages fell in Philadelphia after the tax, beverage sales in nearby towns and counties without the tax went up. That suggests people may have been traveling to get their soda at a reduced price.”

“People stopped buying their soda in the city (and almost undoubtedly a lot of other shopping list items) and decided to shop where prices were lower,” Hotair noted.

So was there at least an uptick in healthier beverage purchases because of the tax? Nope. “Philadelphia did not see an increase in sales of untaxed beverages such as bottled water,” CNN reported.

CNN did not discuss the revenue hit Philadelphia took, but Hotair did: “The tax on soda increased by 17%, but the sales fell by 51%. So, let’s look at this assuming one million ounces of soda was sold annually before the tax went into effect. If sales had remained the same, the city would have realized $62,400.00 in revenue instead of $54,300.00. But with the volume cut in half, they managed to slash their revenue to $31,200.00.”
I love it when authoritarians fall flat on their stoic, totalitarian faces.
 
If they now travel to get Soda.....did the Gas Tax or Train revenue increase? To offset the losses?
 
Lol! So the claim is that people wasted gas and time to drive out of town to buy soda for a few cents less??? Yeah, that makes sense .
 
very stupid and un-American
one of the reasons for the Revolutionary War was taxes
 
taxes have ruined countries/etc
I remember reading a book on Medieval times and how taxes ruined the communities
 
Lol! So the claim is that people wasted gas and time to drive out of town to buy soda for a few cents less??? Yeah, that makes sense .

No. I don't know why I bother because you are consistently wrong about everything.

Most people have to leave the city anyway for work, or other reasons. On the way back from their trip, they stop at a store outside the city and stock up. Also, the few minute drive to get outside the city limits is worth it for people. It isn't only Soda, it is fruit juice, and anything the city defines as a "sugary drink".

Liberal/Progressive policies that sound good to some on their surface, always have unintended consequences that actually make the situation WORSE. Social engineering through government policy does not work.
 
Lol! So the claim is that people wasted gas and time to drive out of town to buy soda for a few cents less??? Yeah, that makes sense .
....it's like MObama's UN-American-nazi lunch program= they are trying to force you to eat/drink what they want --trying to tell you what you should eat or drink
 
The citizens of Philadelphia have been rocked by a tax on sugary drinks like soda, although the hike was intended to improve their health.

As outlined by Hotair on Saturday, the “soda tax” has actually led to Philadelphia residents traveling outside the city to buy their soda (and likely other goods), decreased the city’s revenue, and led to layoffs in the local beverage industry and cut hours for employees at small markets. It did not, however, lead to an increase in healthier beverage purchases in the city.

When the soda tax was first announced, workers at Pepsi took a hit. “With sales slumping because of the new Philadelphia sweetened beverage tax, Pepsi said Wednesday that it will lay off 80 to 100 workers at three distribution plants that serve the city,” philly.com reported in March of 2017.

And last month, the local outlet reported that the owner of Acme Markets, who has 16 stores in Philadelphia, had to cut employees’ hours because of the tax: “The beverage tax fell on about 4,000 items. In Acme city stores, soda sales dropped as much as 80 percent. Sales of other items covered by the tax, such as juices, creamers and energy drinks, were down 30 percent, and the number of customers declined by 5 percent. Philly stores cut an average of 150 to 200 employee hours per week, resulting in lighter paychecks for employees."

But the hit the employees took did not equate to a win for the “health” of its citizens. As noted by Hotair, Philadelphia residents were traveling outside the city to avoid the tax hike on their drinks.

A CNN report on a study from medical journal JAMA focused in on the 51% drop in city soda purchases, but admitted: “While researchers found that sales of sugary beverages fell in Philadelphia after the tax, beverage sales in nearby towns and counties without the tax went up. That suggests people may have been traveling to get their soda at a reduced price.”

“People stopped buying their soda in the city (and almost undoubtedly a lot of other shopping list items) and decided to shop where prices were lower,” Hotair noted.

So was there at least an uptick in healthier beverage purchases because of the tax? Nope. “Philadelphia did not see an increase in sales of untaxed beverages such as bottled water,” CNN reported.

CNN did not discuss the revenue hit Philadelphia took, but Hotair did: “The tax on soda increased by 17%, but the sales fell by 51%. So, let’s look at this assuming one million ounces of soda was sold annually before the tax went into effect. If sales had remained the same, the city would have realized $62,400.00 in revenue instead of $54,300.00. But with the volume cut in half, they managed to slash their revenue to $31,200.00.”

Another failed example of using the tax code for social engineering


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the hike was intended to improve their health.

Yeah right lol

Wanna buy a bridge?

This was a money grab. Philly overestimated the revenue the tax would produce thinking it would be a big windfall to fund education, but then play a shell game where they could use it as just another slush fund. I had heard they had sold the projected revenue stream like a bond over several years to get a big chunk up front, but I can not find where I had read that.

The bottom line is a lot of people in the beverage industry, and others lost their jobs as fewer, and fewer people buy sugary drinks within the city limits.
 
The citizens of Philadelphia have been rocked by a tax on sugary drinks like soda, although the hike was intended to improve their health.

As outlined by Hotair on Saturday, the “soda tax” has actually led to Philadelphia residents traveling outside the city to buy their soda (and likely other goods), decreased the city’s revenue, and led to layoffs in the local beverage industry and cut hours for employees at small markets. It did not, however, lead to an increase in healthier beverage purchases in the city.

When the soda tax was first announced, workers at Pepsi took a hit. “With sales slumping because of the new Philadelphia sweetened beverage tax, Pepsi said Wednesday that it will lay off 80 to 100 workers at three distribution plants that serve the city,” philly.com reported in March of 2017.

And last month, the local outlet reported that the owner of Acme Markets, who has 16 stores in Philadelphia, had to cut employees’ hours because of the tax: “The beverage tax fell on about 4,000 items. In Acme city stores, soda sales dropped as much as 80 percent. Sales of other items covered by the tax, such as juices, creamers and energy drinks, were down 30 percent, and the number of customers declined by 5 percent. Philly stores cut an average of 150 to 200 employee hours per week, resulting in lighter paychecks for employees."

But the hit the employees took did not equate to a win for the “health” of its citizens. As noted by Hotair, Philadelphia residents were traveling outside the city to avoid the tax hike on their drinks.

A CNN report on a study from medical journal JAMA focused in on the 51% drop in city soda purchases, but admitted: “While researchers found that sales of sugary beverages fell in Philadelphia after the tax, beverage sales in nearby towns and counties without the tax went up. That suggests people may have been traveling to get their soda at a reduced price.”

“People stopped buying their soda in the city (and almost undoubtedly a lot of other shopping list items) and decided to shop where prices were lower,” Hotair noted.

So was there at least an uptick in healthier beverage purchases because of the tax? Nope. “Philadelphia did not see an increase in sales of untaxed beverages such as bottled water,” CNN reported.

CNN did not discuss the revenue hit Philadelphia took, but Hotair did: “The tax on soda increased by 17%, but the sales fell by 51%. So, let’s look at this assuming one million ounces of soda was sold annually before the tax went into effect. If sales had remained the same, the city would have realized $62,400.00 in revenue instead of $54,300.00. But with the volume cut in half, they managed to slash their revenue to $31,200.00.”

Common sense agrees with your post. Why pay more when you can get the same thing for less somewhere else.

The people running Philly obviously are idiots if they didn't see this coming.

You can't cure stupid.
 
Lol! So the claim is that people wasted gas and time to drive out of town to buy soda for a few cents less??? Yeah, that makes sense .

No. I don't know why I bother because you are consistently wrong about everything.

Most people have to leave the city anyway for work, or other reasons. On the way back from their trip, they stop at a store outside the city and stock up. Also, the few minute drive to get outside the city limits is worth it for people. It isn't only Soda, it is fruit juice, and anything the city defines as a "sugary drink".

Liberal/Progressive policies that sound good to some on their surface, always have unintended consequences that actually make the situation WORSE. Social engineering through government policy does not work.

They also may do ALL their shopping at a place outside the city instead of doing iit in the city.

So Pathmark doesn't lose, but the Pathmark in city limits does, and the city does because it loses all taxes on the sales, not just the drinks.
 
Lol! So the claim is that people wasted gas and time to drive out of town to buy soda for a few cents less??? Yeah, that makes sense .

No. I don't know why I bother because you are consistently wrong about everything.

Most people have to leave the city anyway for work, or other reasons. On the way back from their trip, they stop at a store outside the city and stock up. Also, the few minute drive to get outside the city limits is worth it for people. It isn't only Soda, it is fruit juice, and anything the city defines as a "sugary drink".

Liberal/Progressive policies that sound good to some on their surface, always have unintended consequences that actually make the situation WORSE. Social engineering through government policy does not work.

They also may do ALL their shopping at a place outside the city instead of doing iit in the city.

So Pathmark doesn't lose, but the Pathmark in city limits does, and the city does because it loses all taxes on the sales, not just the drinks.

Absolutely. People are now going outside the city to do ALL their grocery shopping, so the city retailors, and the city lose out on sales and tax revenue. This was ALL anticipated by the opposition to the tax, yet the city went ahead with it anyway.
 
Being Democrat means never having to say you’re sorry.

Precisely! The entire ideology of postmodern liberalism is justification for terrible acts. The sooner we shout this from the mountaintops, eh . . . no one seems to be listening too much because to listen means to acknowledge and to acknowledge means to give up the behaviors so many Americans love but which are overtly self-destructive and civilization ending. Oh well, nice try.
 
Water is now the most drank beverage all soda companies are feeling the loss...So yer idea that a tax on soda is the reason, I doubt it.
 
these fks never learn, Chicago already tried that and it failed. It's amazing how leftist love to fail continuously.
 

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