AZ Gov Jan Brewer says her Father died fighting Nazis. Problem? He Didn't

[NYcarbineer]

Brewer's face looks like a war zone. Tobacco, booze, and Arizona sun, I'm guessing.

 

[VaYank5150]

Brewer's face looks like a war zone. Tobacco, booze, and Arizona sun, I'm guessing.

Which has WHAT to do with ANYTHING in this thread?

 

[bodecea]

Brewer's face looks like a war zone. Tobacco, booze, and Arizona sun, I'm guessing.

Hmmm. So you've turned into a Republican now? Going on about someone's looks as if that is relevant? Sad.

 

[WillowTree]

I only joke when I say it. But he does seem to have some sort of serious problems. I hope he gets whatever help he needs.

you are a liar.

I think I saved some of the obviously drunken e-mails Tommy sent to me (and everyone in his now-defunct forum) last year. You get his permission and I will be glad to share them with you...and then you decide whether he could possibly have been sober...or not.

got a blood alchohol level? otherwise you are a liar.

 

[HUGGY]

Brewer's face looks like a war zone. Tobacco, booze, and Arizona sun, I'm guessing.

Which has WHAT to do with ANYTHING in this thread?

EVERYTHING!!!! Two examples....Manuel Noriega?...Godzilla?

Brewer???.....Coincidense? I don't think so!!!!!

 

[bodecea]

you are a liar.

I think I saved some of the obviously drunken e-mails Tommy sent to me (and everyone in his now-defunct forum) last year. You get his permission and I will be glad to share them with you...and then you decide whether he could possibly have been sober...or not.

got a blood alchohol level? otherwise you are a liar.

Ask his permission to release those e-mails...unless you don't really want to know. But, then again, we know that you very rarely want the truth.

 

[Political Junky]

Brewer's father died ten years after WW2 ended.

 

[VaYank5150]

Brewer's father died ten years after WW2 ended.

But, but, but....working in a factory, where he was OBVIOUSLY fighting Hitler, eventually killed him...is that about right, Willow Tree?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Brewer and Blumenthal are trash, and both should resign.

 

[Father Time]

Signing Arizona immigration law was never a question for governor

She also opened herself up to what she says were unanticipated personal attacks.

"The Nazi comments . . . they are awful," she said, her voice dropping. "Knowing that my father died fighting the Nazi regime in Germany, that I lost him when I was 11 because of that . . . and then to have them call me Hitler's daughter. It hurts. It's ugliness beyond anything I've ever experienced."

A sad story indeed, except:

Brewer tells conflicting stories about dad's war effort

Thoughts USMB? Considering the recent events with people lying about their military record, what made Governor Brewer think nobody would check this?

My thoughts are that you should attempt to find decent, honest sources before you come in here, triumphantly - and mistakenly - crowing at us with your incorrect "Gotcha!" moments.

Here's the first sentence of your source: "Gov. Jan Brewer said in a recent interview that her father died fighting Nazis in Germany." Now, either your source has really poor reading and writing skills, or he's deliberately misconstruing her quote. She said he died fighting "the Nazi regime in Germany", not that he fought or died in Germany. Where was the Nazi regime? In Germany, wasn't it?

If you're planning to come back with anything that even vaguely implies that the people here in the US who worked for defense contractors to support the US war effort - and, for that matter, everyone who struggled and sacrificed and recycled and did without for that purpose - were not fighting the Nazi regime, don't even go there. The soldiers were on the front lines and bore the brunt of the war, no doubt about it, but the entire nation fought that war together.

Ah the political hack watch how she spins grammar rules and everything else to give the governor a free pass.

When she says he died fighting the Nazi regime in Germany that means he died while he was in Germany. Now if she said what you are trying to tell us she meant she would've said something like 'the Nazi regime that was in Germany'. See how grammar works

P.S. even basic knowledge of WWII would tell you that the Nazis occupied more than Germany. Did he somehow know his factory products would be used only in Germany as opposed to any other Nazi front we were fighting in?

 

[bodecea]

Signing Arizona immigration law was never a question for governor



A sad story indeed, except:

Brewer tells conflicting stories about dad's war effort

Thoughts USMB? Considering the recent events with people lying about their military record, what made Governor Brewer think nobody would check this?

My thoughts are that you should attempt to find decent, honest sources before you come in here, triumphantly - and mistakenly - crowing at us with your incorrect "Gotcha!" moments.

Here's the first sentence of your source: "Gov. Jan Brewer said in a recent interview that her father died fighting Nazis in Germany." Now, either your source has really poor reading and writing skills, or he's deliberately misconstruing her quote. She said he died fighting "the Nazi regime in Germany", not that he fought or died in Germany. Where was the Nazi regime? In Germany, wasn't it?

If you're planning to come back with anything that even vaguely implies that the people here in the US who worked for defense contractors to support the US war effort - and, for that matter, everyone who struggled and sacrificed and recycled and did without for that purpose - were not fighting the Nazi regime, don't even go there. The soldiers were on the front lines and bore the brunt of the war, no doubt about it, but the entire nation fought that war together.

Ah the political hack watch how she spins grammar rules and everything else to give the governor a free pass.

When she says he died fighting the Nazi regime in Germany that means he died while he was in Germany. Now if she said what you are trying to tell us she meant she would've said something like 'the Nazi regime that was in Germany'. See how grammar works

P.S. even basic knowledge of WWII would tell you that the Nazis occupied more than Germany. Did he somehow know his factory products would be used only in Germany as opposed to any other Nazi front we were fighting in?

I guess he didn't die fighting the Nazi regime in Vichy, or in Romania, or in Austria, or in.........

 

[Father Time]

My thoughts are that you should attempt to find decent, honest sources before you come in here, triumphantly - and mistakenly - crowing at us with your incorrect "Gotcha!" moments.

Here's the first sentence of your source: "Gov. Jan Brewer said in a recent interview that her father died fighting Nazis in Germany." Now, either your source has really poor reading and writing skills, or he's deliberately misconstruing her quote. She said he died fighting "the Nazi regime in Germany", not that he fought or died in Germany. Where was the Nazi regime? In Germany, wasn't it?

If you're planning to come back with anything that even vaguely implies that the people here in the US who worked for defense contractors to support the US war effort - and, for that matter, everyone who struggled and sacrificed and recycled and did without for that purpose - were not fighting the Nazi regime, don't even go there. The soldiers were on the front lines and bore the brunt of the war, no doubt about it, but the entire nation fought that war together.

I don't see the point of trying to assume what I'm going to say or not say. Yes, this entire nation fought the war together. However, to say that her father died fighting the Nazi Regime in Germany says (least to me) that her father died during World War II actually fighting the Nazis. Not due to the American asbestos in the factories.

I'm not doubting her father's service to this country, however I am saying she misrepresented what actually happened in order to come off as a more sympathetic character.

Your inability to understand English is not my problem, nor is it Jan Brewer's. She was making a very valid point in response to the left's childish need to holler "Nazi!" at everyone they don't like: that it's particularly offensive to her because her father lost his life in the US fight against the Nazi regime.

That's a valid point?

You really are a hack.

Saying 'you can't compare me to Nazis my dad died in WWII' is not a counter-argument it's a deflection, an irrelevant fact. Her father's actions do not make her actions any more moral. Even if she did only mean that 'he worked at a factory' (and used a terrible choice of words) it's still nothing but hiding behind the accomplishments of someone else to drum up sympathy.

So either way it's still completely PATHETIC!

 

[Father Time]

She said he died fighting the Nazi regime, which he did, so it wasn't a lie. There was a lot more to what he was doing than just some factory job, and the way she phrased it was chosen to point that out in response to the offensive need the left has to trot out "Nazi! Hitler!" to smear anyone they don't like.

The lie here is the attempt to pretend that she claimed he fought in Germany.

When someone says "my ___ died fighting the Nazi regime". What's the first thing to come to mind? Actually fighting overseas? Or dying ten years later to American asbestos in the factories that weren't up to regulation?

Face it, she tried to tweak the facts a little bit to come off as more sympathetic and toss the ball back into her opponent's court by saying they're the real monsters. She should of just came out and said what happened fully and honestly, not misrepresenting the facts.

I don't really give a good goddamn WHAT conclusions you choose to jump to, nor do they mean that what was said was a lie, simply because you made an assumption and it was wrong.

Face it. You and your cohorts tried to make the issue about hate-filled racists and forced her to respond to puerile, simplistic insults, and NOW you're desperate to find something to personally attack her for because ANYTHING is better than having to deal with the reality of the issue of illegal immigration. God forbid we discuss how to stem the invasion of our country and the erosion of our economy that it's causing. Let's talk about whether or not Jan Brewer's wording was sufficiently dumbed-down to suit you! Yeah, THAT'S the ******* priority here.

My dad died in the mining industry. What's the first thing that comes to your mind? Does it mean I'm lying about how he died if your assumption happens to be wrong?

Oh I get it we're wrong because we're supposed to psychically guess what she actually meant instead of using the context she used.

If she had any sense at all she would've realized what most people would have assumed when she said 'fighting the Nazi regime'.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Cecilie1200 and Governor Brewer, words having meaning.

Father Time is right, and you both are wrong, as is Blumenthal.

CC, you need to apologize and shut up, and Brewer and Blumenthal need to resign. There is no other way to spin this.

 

[Father Time]

Maybe the problem is that leftists are incapable of imagining anyone taking a dangerous factory job out of patriotism and the desire to help their country win the war, or of imagining actually being any part of fighting their country's wars at all.

Because leftists never served this country? Seek help.

Don't blame ME if your side gives the appearance of not being able to spell "patriotism", let alone exhibit any. You can make assumptions about what Governor Brewer's words meant, and I can make assumptions about what the left's behavior means.

You don't see the difference between assuming what one single person meant when they said something that could easily be interpreted that way and making a blatantly false stereotype about hundreds and thousands of people?

What kind of a moron are you?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Cecilie1200 does not care, Father Time, about hasty generalizations and clear, convincing evidence and argumentation. She is not about being right, rather only about power. Her arguments along with Brewer's in this manner oppose what is the best in America. CC, Brewer, and Blumenthal are all in the same garbage bag.

 

[mudwhistle]

Cecilie1200 and Governor Brewer, words having meaning.

Father Time is right, and you both are wrong, as is Blumenthal.

CC, you need to apologize and shut up, and Brewer and Blumenthal need to resign. There is no other way to spin this.

I'm still waiting for the news to pick this up.....

Still waiting......

Guess it's an internet scam.

 

[L.K.Eder]

maybe the ammo went to kill japs. or was misused in friendly fire incidents.

 

[JakeStarkey]

mudwhistle, try Jan Brewer Claims Her Father 'Died Fighting the Nazi Regime' as well as the Arizona Guardian online site.

 

[mudwhistle]

mudwhistle, try Jan Brewer Claims Her Father 'Died Fighting the Nazi Regime' as well as the Arizona Guardian online site.

Dude...I'm not gonna believe a couple of lib journalists making up shit about somebody they want to discredit.

I didn't see her say it so as far as I'm concerned...it never happened.

The media isn't reporting this so it's a hoax until they do.

If she had said it....it's indefensible.