frazzledgear
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- Mar 17, 2008
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You mean, there are people out there willing to smear white advocacy and white people, no matter the facts?
I'm shocked!
More like "Are there people willing to make false accusations to try and link mass murderers and racist trash groups of political thug wannabes with their political opponents for their own political gain?" They weren't trying to smear whites with the acts of a mass murdering paranoid schizophrenic. They were trying to get the public to link mass murder with conservative politics since even Fox reported this lying claim of a link to a "rightwing" and at other times "ultra conservative" group. A group the vast majority of people have never even heard of and probably will never hear of again -but they sure heard "right wing" and "ultra conservative".
Problem is -this isn't a "conservative" group. They are a bunch of racists who believe in using the power of the state to insure that whites rule in this country which has zip to do with conservatism. They believe in using state power to control others to enact their agenda which is NOT conservatism because it means they favor the totalitarian state and simply disagree with liberals about which of them should be sitting at the top of that totalitarian state. A disagreement between two groups who both favor the totalitarian state and just disagree about which of them should be controlling that massive power does NOT make those who want that for themselves instead of liberals "right wing"! They are BOTH leftwing. Whether a group is leftwing or rightwing is NOT determined by WHY they favor/oppose the totalitarian state -but just the fact they DO! Left wing favors the totalitarian state -right wing opposes it. Lots of different groups may favor the totalitarian state for a whole bunch of different reasons, many of which may differ or clash with the reasons of another group. But if they favor a totalitarian state that has control over the individual, they are LEFT WING -and why they favor it is IRRELEVANT in that determination.
Conservatives do NOT believe in allowing the state to EVER have that kind of power at all and oppose the totalitarian state no matter who would be running it! They don't want government to have that kind of power PERIOD. And gee, this pack of racists can't get their agenda off the ground without a TOTALITARIAN STATE -not ever. They would have NO problem turning the US into a totalitarian state as long as they rule -making them a left wing group.
The opposite of a totalitarian state is NOT another one! Insisting these kinds of extremist groups are "right wing" and their opposite is just one of MANY lies of the left. A lie the left has been promoting for decades now -trying to confuse the public about what it is conservatives -REAL ones -even believe in and instead pretend conservatives want a huge, powerful government too just like they do - but with THEM running it instead of the left -which is why they label left wing extremist groups like this one "right wing" when it is actually a left wing group. They need to muddy the waters because they know that the truth doesn't work for them because most people do NOT want a large powerful government at all. All those who do favor a large, massive, powerful central government with control over the individual - are ALL left wing. No matter WHY they want it.
I'm a conservative and like any real conservative I don't want a government that has that kind of size and power in the first place. No matter which pack of thugs wants to run it -because anyone who favors that kind of system of government is in their heart just a thug claiming a right to control everyone else.