Award winning homosexual teacher busted for Kiddie porn

[Syriusly]

sick is what sick does

The liberal machine at work

-Geaux
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An award-winning teacher and debate coach at the prestigious Bronx High School of Science — who likes to dress up like Liberace — paid teenage boys to send him nude and other lurid photos of themselves, the feds charged on Friday.

Jonathan Cruz, 31, spilled his guts after he was busted at his pad at 60 East 9th Street in the East Village about 9:40 a.m., admitting he had showered at least five victims with hundreds of dollars of gift cards in exchange for fetish photos of their feet, crotch shots and also “thumbs-up” selfies, according to a criminal complaint.

Award-winning NYC teacher busted for kiddie porn New York Post

If guilty I hope he is convicted.

Here is the Conservative machine at work:
Stevie Foehl And Michael Emory, Michigan Couple, Sentenced To Life For Raping Baby
A Michigan couple convicted of filming each other sexually abusing a 1-year-old girl received life prison sentences Thursday.

Stevie Foehl, 28, and her boyfriend, Michael Emory, 26, pleaded guilty to a slew of sex crime charges in January. Cops found videos of the unthinkable sexual assault on Emory's computer, which they seized while he was being investigated on separate sex abuse charges.

"I don’t know how to quantify the horror this child was put through," Judge Dennis Lieber said at the sentencing Thursday, in whichEmory got three consecutive life sentences, and Foehl received life in prison.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Or you could just not let your kids own smartphones. If they do, chances are they already have such images on them, or have seen them. Why a minor living at home needs their own phone and computer they can use without parental supervision elludes me.

Our children are always supervised and their phones have apps we use to monitor their activity

For every app that monitors, records, or restricts a kid's internet usage, there's 20 to defeat such apps. Noticing Google's moderate search thing recently it proved an inconvenience for about 10 minutes until I found a site telling you how to get around it.

 

[Syriusly]

People were all over pedophiliac priests but they give a pass to pedophiles in teaching, who are probably more numerous.

Teachers get arrested for child sex abuse quite regularly- feel free to show who gets a pass.

Children are most likely be molested in order:
a) family members(brothers, step brothers, uncles)
b) men in authority- teachers, coaches, priests, ministers, youth group leaders.

 

[Syriusly]

Up to 70 years if convicted....

...For pretending to be a teen himself. So these guys had consensual, mutually desireable interactions with someone they thought was another teen, but who turned out to be an adult 'catfishing.' And no actual physical interaction.

I can usually get behind prosecution of child sexual abusers, but in this instance the only crime I see is how he misrepresented himself as another teen. Ironicly then, had he actually been another teen this probably wouldn't have gone all the way to law enforcement (NM having a Romeo and Juliet provision.) Only did because he was in fact an adult.

Revoke his teaching credentials for life, put him on whoever's sex offender registry (NY and NM presumedly,) and charge him for manufacturing and possessing child pornography. But no way 70 years. Murderers and actual child rapists don't get that much. If he has no criminal history, 5 years max. Unlike other child pornography charges and crimes, this was wholely consensual. And while obtained under false pretenses, compared to other incidents comparatively minor.

1. He's a teacher so this is unethical.
2. The on line consensual part doesn't apply because the teens thought he was another teen and not a creepy adult who should know better.
3.He had child porn which is a serious offense.
4.He did make physical contact "Jonathan Cruz, 31, spilled his guts after he was busted at his pad at 60 East 9th Street in the East Village about 9:40 a.m., admitting he had showered at least five victims with hundreds of dollars of gift cards in exchange for fetish photos of their feet, crotch shots and also “thumbs-up” selfies, according to a criminal complaint."
5. As for the 70 years, you're losing sight of the actual charge. The boys must have been 16 years old and must have been consensual because he's not being charged for anything involving contact with them. He's being charged with the child porn which did harm the children posing for the porn and yes In my opinion that's worth 70 years. If he is looking at kiddy porn then he's one step away from doing it himself. Society is reading the writing on the wall and saying lock him up before the perv makes the next move.
6. I know PC is all the rage but a teacher dressing as Liberace? And the school system didn't question this? They didn't find this a tad weird?

1. Teachers and students have perfectly positive sexual relationships for thousands of years before our modern rejection of such things. Ancient Greek teacher-student sexual relationships gave the world Plato, Socrates, and democracy.

2. Doesn't matter if you misrepresent yourself online. "Mistake as to age" isn't a valid defense for stat rape charges, so why allow such a defense for the victim? "I didn't know he was an adult, looked udnerage."

3. From at least the article, the child pornography in question was of teenagers. While strictly speaking child porn is anyone udner 18, if just their feet, or them naked but not lewd/erect, may well get thrown out not meeting the legal criteria of child porn.

4. The gifts were presumedly mailed, or the teens woulda known he wasn't the teen they thought he was. Thus no physical contact.

5. Studies and statistical analysis proves people into child pornography are LESS, not more ikely to actually abuse children since they "make due" with the non-offending fantasy instead of seeking the reality.

6. Dunno if the school knew about the Liberace stuff.

1. it's as unethical as a doctor dating his patient. It's wrong. Now if the kid was a graduate and hooked up that's a different story but as long as one is a student and the other a teacher, it's wrong.

2. He's not being charged with rape. Again if the kids sent any pics online that were compromising it's wrong because they thought they were conversing with another teen and not a creepy man.

3. I'm assuming that he's not being charged for taking pics of just feet. There must be some explicit contact in those photo's that makes it a porn charge. Any explicit pics taken of an a person under 18 is considered porn if in the possession of an adult. It also doesn't say if the offending pics are just of those teens or if maybe more was found during the search. I'm just saying, there has to be reason for the charges.

4.You may be right about the contact but I'm sure as this comes to light and the cops dig they are going to find he crossed the line somewhere. I doubt he stopped at online dating and porn.

5. Oh dear, I hope you don't believe that. That's just as silly as saying heterosexual men who look at porn are content with just looking at women. It's a sexual preference and part of their sex drive, they are not pacified by it anymore than anyone else would be.

6. I hope they didn't.

1. The students didn't know he was a teacher, so his being one is irrelevant.

2. Legally, it doesn't matter. Teen sharing such pics with other teens is still a child porn offense.

3. Nude pics in possession of an adult isn't illegal. Only illegal if 'explicit sexual conduct' or focus on genitals is in the pic. Simply being naked isn't illegal as the plethora of nudist camp type content attests. Just referenced a case about this yesterday where a defendant's possession of naked minor pictures wasn't itself illegal just because the guy got off on them. Making that the standard would have old Sears catalogs declared illegal for pictures of minors in their underwear. Can read it here,
173 F.3d 28

4. if additional evidence comes to light that's that. As it stands looking at just the linked article in the OP though, there was no charges involving actual contact.

5. Can provide links, or you could search the site for past posts and threads about it. One I remember was 'does pornography hurt chidlren who view it' or something like that. Ask NLT, bet he knows.
Legalizing pornography Lower sex crime rates Study carried out in Czech Republic shows results similar to those in Japan and Denmark -- ScienceDaily
The effects of Pornography An
(search/find down to "pornography & sex crime data"

The bottom line is this guy is a teacher and an adult, he's messing with kids and he shouldn't be. He certainly has no business being in a position of trust.

Probably the first post of yours I have ever agreed with.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Or you could just not let your kids own smartphones. If they do, chances are they already have such images on them, or have seen them. Why a minor living at home needs their own phone and computer they can use without parental supervision elludes me.

Our children are always supervised and their phones have apps we use to monitor their activity

For every app that monitors, records, or restricts a kid's internet usage, there's 20 to defeat such apps. Noticing Google's moderate search thing recently it proved an inconvenience for about 10 minutes until I found a site telling you how to get around it.

Our children are safe, you let us worry about them

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Award winning homosexual teacher busted for Kiddie porn"

So you decided to start a thread about it to exhibit your ignorance of a hasty generalization fallacy.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Or you could just not let your kids own smartphones. If they do, chances are they already have such images on them, or have seen them. Why a minor living at home needs their own phone and computer they can use without parental supervision elludes me.

Our children are always supervised and their phones have apps we use to monitor their activity

For every app that monitors, records, or restricts a kid's internet usage, there's 20 to defeat such apps. Noticing Google's moderate search thing recently it proved an inconvenience for about 10 minutes until I found a site telling you how to get around it.

Our children are safe, you let us worry about them

Well I worry about everybody, but that's not what they pay me for.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

"Award winning homosexual teacher busted for Kiddie porn"

So you decided to start a thread about it to exhibit your ignorance of a hasty generalization fallacy.

Many self proclaimed "homosexual" men are just pederasts in a clever disguise. They are perverts finding seclusion and concealment with other perverts. You all are peas in a pod, no matter how much you scream and holler that you're not.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

"Award winning homosexual teacher busted for Kiddie porn"

So you decided to start a thread about it to exhibit your ignorance of a hasty generalization fallacy.

Many self proclaimed "homosexual" men are just pederasts in a clever disguise. They are perverts finding seclusion and concealment with other perverts. You all are peas in a pod, no matter how much you scream and holler that you're not.

Far more child sexual abusers are straight than gay, even allowing for differences in population size.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

"Award winning homosexual teacher busted for Kiddie porn"

So you decided to start a thread about it to exhibit your ignorance of a hasty generalization fallacy.

Many self proclaimed "homosexual" men are just pederasts in a clever disguise. They are perverts finding seclusion and concealment with other perverts. You all are peas in a pod, no matter how much you scream and holler that you're not.

Far more child sexual abusers are straight than gay, even allowing for differences in population size.

I doubt that very much

 

[Delta4Embassy]

"Award winning homosexual teacher busted for Kiddie porn"

So you decided to start a thread about it to exhibit your ignorance of a hasty generalization fallacy.

Many self proclaimed "homosexual" men are just pederasts in a clever disguise. They are perverts finding seclusion and concealment with other perverts. You all are peas in a pod, no matter how much you scream and holler that you're not.

Far more child sexual abusers are straight than gay, even allowing for differences in population size.

I doubt that very much

Need to realize when I say something like that it's because I have links to back it up.

"Studies by David Finkelhor, Director of the Crimes Against Children Research Center, show that:

* 1 in 5 girls and 1 in 20 boys is a victim of child sexual abuse;"
Child Sexual Abuse Statistics

Overwhelming majority of CSA abusers are men. 4 times as many victims are girls. Inference then is majority of CSA abusers are straight men.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

"Award winning homosexual teacher busted for Kiddie porn"

So you decided to start a thread about it to exhibit your ignorance of a hasty generalization fallacy.

Many self proclaimed "homosexual" men are just pederasts in a clever disguise. They are perverts finding seclusion and concealment with other perverts. You all are peas in a pod, no matter how much you scream and holler that you're not.

Far more child sexual abusers are straight than gay, even allowing for differences in population size.

I doubt that very much

Need to realize when I say something like that it's because I have links to back it up.

"Studies by David Finkelhor, Director of the Crimes Against Children Research Center, show that:

* 1 in 5 girls and 1 in 20 boys is a victim of child sexual abuse;"
Child Sexual Abuse Statistics

Overwhelming majority of CSA abusers are men. 4 times as many victims are girls. Inference then is majority of CSA abusers are straight men.

Well duh, straight men make up a larger percentage....break it down and homos commit more crimes against children. My husband was with the DoJ, I've seen the stats

 

[Moonglow]

"Award winning homosexual teacher busted for Kiddie porn"

So you decided to start a thread about it to exhibit your ignorance of a hasty generalization fallacy.

Many self proclaimed "homosexual" men are just pederasts in a clever disguise. They are perverts finding seclusion and concealment with other perverts. You all are peas in a pod, no matter how much you scream and holler that you're not.

Far more child sexual abusers are straight than gay, even allowing for differences in population size.

I doubt that very much

Need to realize when I say something like that it's because I have links to back it up.

"Studies by David Finkelhor, Director of the Crimes Against Children Research Center, show that:

* 1 in 5 girls and 1 in 20 boys is a victim of child sexual abuse;"
Child Sexual Abuse Statistics

Overwhelming majority of CSA abusers are men. 4 times as many victims are girls. Inference then is majority of CSA abusers are straight men.

Well duh, straight men make up a larger percentage....break it down and homos commit more crimes against children. My husband was with the DoJ, I've seen the stats

I believe you want to give the heteros a free pass...

 

[Delta4Embassy]

"The Child Molestation Research & Prevention Institute notes that 90% of child molesters target children in their network of family and friends, and the majority are men married to women. Most child molesters, therefore, are not gay people lingering outside schools waiting to snatch children from the playground, as much religious-right rhetoric suggests."
Child Molestation Research Prevention Institute

"Men are offenders 94 percent of the time in cases of child sexual abuse. Men sexually abuse both male and female children. Seventy-five percent of male offenders are married or have consenting sexual relationships. Only about 4 percent of same-sex abuse involves homosexual perpetrators; 96 percent of the perpetrators are heterosexual."
About Child Abuse - Child Advocacy Center - Springfield Missouri

Note bold above is actual perpetrators so differences in how many gays there are vs straight doesn't matter.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

"The Child Molestation Research & Prevention Institute notes that 90% of child molesters target children in their network of family and friends, and the majority are men married to women. Most child molesters, therefore, are not gay people lingering outside schools waiting to snatch children from the playground, as much religious-right rhetoric suggests."
Child Molestation Research Prevention Institute

"Men are offenders 94 percent of the time in cases of child sexual abuse. Men sexually abuse both male and female children. Seventy-five percent of male offenders are married or have consenting sexual relationships. Only about 4 percent of same-sex abuse involves homosexual perpetrators; 96 percent of the perpetrators are heterosexual."
About Child Abuse - Child Advocacy Center - Springfield Missouri

Percentages elude you, besides I saw how you tried to cover the homosexual on this thread, that consent thing is whack. Just leave kids alone, life is hard enough for them w/o being preyed upon by perverts

 

[Delta4Embassy]

"The Child Molestation Research & Prevention Institute notes that 90% of child molesters target children in their network of family and friends, and the majority are men married to women. Most child molesters, therefore, are not gay people lingering outside schools waiting to snatch children from the playground, as much religious-right rhetoric suggests."
Child Molestation Research Prevention Institute

"Men are offenders 94 percent of the time in cases of child sexual abuse. Men sexually abuse both male and female children. Seventy-five percent of male offenders are married or have consenting sexual relationships. Only about 4 percent of same-sex abuse involves homosexual perpetrators; 96 percent of the perpetrators are heterosexual."
About Child Abuse - Child Advocacy Center - Springfield Missouri

Percentages elude you, besides I saw how you tried to cover the homosexual on this thread, that consent thing is whack. Just leave kids alone, life is hard enough for them w/o being preyed upon by perverts

Translation: I've been proven wrong leave me alone.

 

[BullKurtz]

This one got caught in Ohio with a secret camera in Kindergarten bathrooms.....figures he be a Letterman fan.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

"The Child Molestation Research & Prevention Institute notes that 90% of child molesters target children in their network of family and friends, and the majority are men married to women. Most child molesters, therefore, are not gay people lingering outside schools waiting to snatch children from the playground, as much religious-right rhetoric suggests."
Child Molestation Research Prevention Institute

"Men are offenders 94 percent of the time in cases of child sexual abuse. Men sexually abuse both male and female children. Seventy-five percent of male offenders are married or have consenting sexual relationships. Only about 4 percent of same-sex abuse involves homosexual perpetrators; 96 percent of the perpetrators are heterosexual."
About Child Abuse - Child Advocacy Center - Springfield Missouri

Percentages elude you, besides I saw how you tried to cover the homosexual on this thread, that consent thing is whack. Just leave kids alone, life is hard enough for them w/o being preyed upon by perverts

Translation: I've been proven wrong leave me alone.

No I haven't, YOU can't grasp percentages. The question begs, why are you so eager to defend pedophiles?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Out of curiousity, which post was I covering the homosexual? The few I made fun of him dressing like Liberace, thinking he is Liberace, or even AIDS activists call him queer?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

"The Child Molestation Research & Prevention Institute notes that 90% of child molesters target children in their network of family and friends, and the majority are men married to women. Most child molesters, therefore, are not gay people lingering outside schools waiting to snatch children from the playground, as much religious-right rhetoric suggests."
Child Molestation Research Prevention Institute

"Men are offenders 94 percent of the time in cases of child sexual abuse. Men sexually abuse both male and female children. Seventy-five percent of male offenders are married or have consenting sexual relationships. Only about 4 percent of same-sex abuse involves homosexual perpetrators; 96 percent of the perpetrators are heterosexual."
About Child Abuse - Child Advocacy Center - Springfield Missouri

Percentages elude you, besides I saw how you tried to cover the homosexual on this thread, that consent thing is whack. Just leave kids alone, life is hard enough for them w/o being preyed upon by perverts

Translation: I've been proven wrong leave me alone.

No I haven't, YOU can't grasp percentages. The question begs, why are you so eager to defend pedophiles?

I don't defend pedophiles. But nothing in this story is about pedophiles. So the question is why is every gay guy a pedophile in your imagination?