Australia FM: Don’t call Settlements illegal:: BDS is "Anti-semitic"

[Roudy]

et al,

POINT #1:

The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) Movement may, in point of fact, be discriminatory or prejudiced against Jews. I suppose the is individually subjective in the reasoning one uses in supporting BDS.

Having said that, the BDS Movement is a "non-violent" means of protesting against the policies of the State of Israel. And that is a key factor (non-violence). You may or may not agree with the BDS Movement, but it beats Jihadist and Fedayeen terrorist operations.

Non-violent protest is legal; violent protests are not.
​

POINT #2:

When we say something is "anti-Semitic," are we saying that:

• BDS is focused on Jewish People and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
• BDS is focused on Israel and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
• Are they one and the same thing and therefore "anti-Semitic?"

Now, a BDS supporter can be both Anti-Israeli and Anti-Jew. But is it possible for a BDS supporter can be one or the other?

(OBJECTIVE VIEW)

They are different things.

Most Respectfully,
R

Apparently the NY state legislature think differently.

New York Senate passes bill punishing ASA over Israel boycott
Alex Kane on January 28, 2014 5

Legislation that targets the American Studies Association over its decision to boycott Israel passed its first test today: a vote in the New York Senate. The bill, introduced by Democratic Senator Jeff Klein, the co-leader of the body, passed by a vote of 56-4.

The measure prohibits colleges and universities from spending taxpayer funds on academic groups that support boycotting Israel. While the measure applies to any academic organization that boycotts countries where the New York Board of Regents has chartered a school, the focus is on Israel. A companion bill is currently being considered in the Assembly. If it passes there–48 lawmakers are co-sponsors of it–it will be up to Governor Andrew Cuomo to either sign the bill or veto it.

“This legislation sends a very simple message, which is that we should never ask taxpayers to support religious, ethnic, or racial discrimination. We need to marginalize the politics of intolerance whenever it rears its ugly head,” Senator Klein, who represents the Bronx and Westchester, said in a statement. ”I will not allow the enemies of Israel or the Jewish people to gain an inch in New York. The First Amendment protects every organization’s right to speak, but it never requires taxpayers to foot the bill.”

The bill’s principal impact will fall on students or scholars from state schools who receive money from their institutions to travel to the ASA convention–or to conventions held by the Native American and Indigenous Studies Association and the Association for Asian American Studies, both of which have voted to boycott Israel. The legislation also prohibits state schools from paying membership fees to the ASA. In practice, this will affect individual departments at state institutions, since departments pay membership fees, not schools themselves.

Institutions violating the legislation would be cut off from state aid during the academic year the violation occurred. The legislation also has language that exempts certain kinds of boycotts: boycotts related to labor disputes, countries that are “state sponsors” of terrorism, and boycotts that target “unlawful discriminatory practices”.

And the best universitities in the US agree.


The American Studies Association's BDS Resolution | The Louis D. Brandeis Center Blog

The ASA’s New Image
The ASA Was the Biggest Loser

In the end, the ASA is the biggest loser, and this outcome will not be lost on other associations. For its efforts, the ASA is now publicly mocked, ridiculed and condemned, even by some of its own members and past presidents, as well as by major scholars and numerous university presidents. Even those who do not discern anti-Semitism in the ASA resolution nevertheless perceive a violation of academic freedom. The American Association of University Professors announced that the boycott would violate the academic freedom “not only of Israeli scholars but also of American scholars who might be pressured to comply with it.” More importantly, perhaps, the ASA has now lost any scholarly reputation that it might previously have had and is now seen as a largely political institution.

Four universities have already terminated their institutional memberships in the ASA. Penn State Harrisburg was the first to cut its formal ties, followed by Brandeis University, Indiana University at Bloomington, and Kenyon College. These four institutions should be honored for their leadership.

In short order, over sixty universities have issued strong statements rejecting the ASA’s actions. Professor William A. Jacobson compiled this list of institutions that have denounced the ASA boycott:

American University (D.C.)
Birmingham Southern College
Boston University
Bowdon College
Brandeis University
Brooklyn College, CUNY
Brown University
Case Western Reserve University
Cornell University
Dickinson College
Duke University
Florida International University
Fordham University
George Washington University
Hamilton College
Harvard University
Haverford College
Indiana University
Johns Hopkins University
Kenyon College
Lehigh University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Michigan State
Middlebury College
New York University
Northwestern University
Ohio State
Princeton University
Purdue University
Rhode Island College
Rutgers University
Smith College
Stanford University
The City University of New York
Trinity College (CT)
Tufts University
Tulane University
University of Alabama System
University of California System
University of California-Berkeley
University of California-Irvine
University of California-San Diego
University of Chicago
University of Cincinnati
University of Connecticut
University of Delaware
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
University of Kansas
University of Maryland
University of Maryland – Baltimore County
University of Miami
University of Michigan
University of Pennsylvania
University of Pittsburgh
University of Southern California
University of Texas-Austin
Washington University in St. Louis
Wesleyan University
Willamette University
Yale University
Yeshiva University

Other Universities May (and Should) Cut Ties

More universities may, and should, cut their institutional memberships with ASA. As former Harvard University President Lawrence Summers has cogently argued, “My hope would be that responsible university leaders will become very reluctant to see their university’s funds used to finance faculty membership and faculty travel to an association that is showing itself not to be a scholarly association but really more of a political tool.”

The Courts May Have the Final Say

The ASA may be held accountable in other ways too. Its resolution has, to say the least, pushed the legal envelope with respect to anti-boycott laws. Several groups, including the Louis D. Brandeis Center, are contemplating taking legal action against the association. Anti-Israel boycotts may violate federal anti-boycott law, as well as the laws of some states, such as Section 296(13) of New York’s Human Rights’ Law, and localities. The ASA, and other institutions that adopt such boycott resolutions, should not be surprised to find themselves in court.

In addition, the BDS resolution may jeopardize the ASA’s tax-exempt status with the Internal Revenue Service, since it is arguably a political activity outside of the ASA’s mission. The ASA is on notice that its tax-exempt status may soon be challenged.

Update: Georgetown University has informed us that they do not have an institutional membership in the ASA and that they have issued a statement criticizing the ASA’s action. We have heard from Columbia University faculty that both Columbia and Barnard have also issued statements criticizing the ASA’s resolution.

 

[P F Tinmore]

et al,

POINT #1:

The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) Movement may, in point of fact, be discriminatory or prejudiced against Jews. I suppose the is individually subjective in the reasoning one uses in supporting BDS.

Having said that, the BDS Movement is a "non-violent" means of protesting against the policies of the State of Israel. And that is a key factor (non-violence). You may or may not agree with the BDS Movement, but it beats Jihadist and Fedayeen terrorist operations.

Non-violent protest is legal; violent protests are not.
​

POINT #2:

When we say something is "anti-Semitic," are we saying that:

• BDS is focused on Jewish People and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
• BDS is focused on Israel and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
• Are they one and the same thing and therefore "anti-Semitic?"

Now, a BDS supporter can be both Anti-Israeli and Anti-Jew. But is it possible for a BDS supporter can be one or the other?

(OBJECTIVE VIEW)

They are different things.

Most Respectfully,
R

Apparently the NY state legislature think differently.

New York Senate passes bill punishing ASA over Israel boycott
Alex Kane on January 28, 2014 5

Legislation that targets the American Studies Association over its decision to boycott Israel passed its first test today: a vote in the New York Senate. The bill, introduced by Democratic Senator Jeff Klein, the co-leader of the body, passed by a vote of 56-4.

The measure prohibits colleges and universities from spending taxpayer funds on academic groups that support boycotting Israel. While the measure applies to any academic organization that boycotts countries where the New York Board of Regents has chartered a school, the focus is on Israel. A companion bill is currently being considered in the Assembly. If it passes there–48 lawmakers are co-sponsors of it–it will be up to Governor Andrew Cuomo to either sign the bill or veto it.

“This legislation sends a very simple message, which is that we should never ask taxpayers to support religious, ethnic, or racial discrimination. We need to marginalize the politics of intolerance whenever it rears its ugly head,” Senator Klein, who represents the Bronx and Westchester, said in a statement. ”I will not allow the enemies of Israel or the Jewish people to gain an inch in New York. The First Amendment protects every organization’s right to speak, but it never requires taxpayers to foot the bill.”

The bill’s principal impact will fall on students or scholars from state schools who receive money from their institutions to travel to the ASA convention–or to conventions held by the Native American and Indigenous Studies Association and the Association for Asian American Studies, both of which have voted to boycott Israel. The legislation also prohibits state schools from paying membership fees to the ASA. In practice, this will affect individual departments at state institutions, since departments pay membership fees, not schools themselves.

Institutions violating the legislation would be cut off from state aid during the academic year the violation occurred. The legislation also has language that exempts certain kinds of boycotts: boycotts related to labor disputes, countries that are “state sponsors” of terrorism, and boycotts that target “unlawful discriminatory practices”.

“This legislation sends a very simple message, which is that we should never ask taxpayers to support religious, ethnic, or racial discrimination.

So, the law is based on a lie.

Interesting legal concept. I wonder if they can get that pig to fly in court.

 

[P F Tinmore]

et al,

POINT #1:

The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) Movement may, in point of fact, be discriminatory or prejudiced against Jews. I suppose the is individually subjective in the reasoning one uses in supporting BDS.

Having said that, the BDS Movement is a "non-violent" means of protesting against the policies of the State of Israel. And that is a key factor (non-violence). You may or may not agree with the BDS Movement, but it beats Jihadist and Fedayeen terrorist operations.

Non-violent protest is legal; violent protests are not.
​

POINT #2:

When we say something is "anti-Semitic," are we saying that:

• BDS is focused on Jewish People and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
• BDS is focused on Israel and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
• Are they one and the same thing and therefore "anti-Semitic?"

Now, a BDS supporter can be both Anti-Israeli and Anti-Jew. But is it possible for a BDS supporter can be one or the other?

(OBJECTIVE VIEW)

They are different things.

Most Respectfully,
R

Apparently the NY state legislature think differently.

New York Senate passes bill punishing ASA over Israel boycott
Alex Kane on January 28, 2014 5

Legislation that targets the American Studies Association over its decision to boycott Israel passed its first test today: a vote in the New York Senate. The bill, introduced by Democratic Senator Jeff Klein, the co-leader of the body, passed by a vote of 56-4.

The measure prohibits colleges and universities from spending taxpayer funds on academic groups that support boycotting Israel. While the measure applies to any academic organization that boycotts countries where the New York Board of Regents has chartered a school, the focus is on Israel. A companion bill is currently being considered in the Assembly. If it passes there–48 lawmakers are co-sponsors of it–it will be up to Governor Andrew Cuomo to either sign the bill or veto it.

“This legislation sends a very simple message, which is that we should never ask taxpayers to support religious, ethnic, or racial discrimination. We need to marginalize the politics of intolerance whenever it rears its ugly head,” Senator Klein, who represents the Bronx and Westchester, said in a statement. ”I will not allow the enemies of Israel or the Jewish people to gain an inch in New York. The First Amendment protects every organization’s right to speak, but it never requires taxpayers to foot the bill.”

The bill’s principal impact will fall on students or scholars from state schools who receive money from their institutions to travel to the ASA convention–or to conventions held by the Native American and Indigenous Studies Association and the Association for Asian American Studies, both of which have voted to boycott Israel. The legislation also prohibits state schools from paying membership fees to the ASA. In practice, this will affect individual departments at state institutions, since departments pay membership fees, not schools themselves.

Institutions violating the legislation would be cut off from state aid during the academic year the violation occurred. The legislation also has language that exempts certain kinds of boycotts: boycotts related to labor disputes, countries that are “state sponsors” of terrorism, and boycotts that target “unlawful discriminatory practices”.

And the best universitities in the US agree.


The American Studies Association's BDS Resolution | The Louis D. Brandeis Center Blog

The ASA’s New Image
The ASA Was the Biggest Loser

In the end, the ASA is the biggest loser, and this outcome will not be lost on other associations. For its efforts, the ASA is now publicly mocked, ridiculed and condemned, even by some of its own members and past presidents, as well as by major scholars and numerous university presidents. Even those who do not discern anti-Semitism in the ASA resolution nevertheless perceive a violation of academic freedom. The American Association of University Professors announced that the boycott would violate the academic freedom “not only of Israeli scholars but also of American scholars who might be pressured to comply with it.” More importantly, perhaps, the ASA has now lost any scholarly reputation that it might previously have had and is now seen as a largely political institution.

Four universities have already terminated their institutional memberships in the ASA. Penn State Harrisburg was the first to cut its formal ties, followed by Brandeis University, Indiana University at Bloomington, and Kenyon College. These four institutions should be honored for their leadership.

In short order, over sixty universities have issued strong statements rejecting the ASA’s actions. Professor William A. Jacobson compiled this list of institutions that have denounced the ASA boycott:

American University (D.C.)
Birmingham Southern College
Boston University
Bowdon College
Brandeis University
Brooklyn College, CUNY
Brown University
Case Western Reserve University
Cornell University
Dickinson College
Duke University
Florida International University
Fordham University
George Washington University
Hamilton College
Harvard University
Haverford College
Indiana University
Johns Hopkins University
Kenyon College
Lehigh University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Michigan State
Middlebury College
New York University
Northwestern University
Ohio State
Princeton University
Purdue University
Rhode Island College
Rutgers University
Smith College
Stanford University
The City University of New York
Trinity College (CT)
Tufts University
Tulane University
University of Alabama System
University of California System
University of California-Berkeley
University of California-Irvine
University of California-San Diego
University of Chicago
University of Cincinnati
University of Connecticut
University of Delaware
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
University of Kansas
University of Maryland
University of Maryland – Baltimore County
University of Miami
University of Michigan
University of Pennsylvania
University of Pittsburgh
University of Southern California
University of Texas-Austin
Washington University in St. Louis
Wesleyan University
Willamette University
Yale University
Yeshiva University

Other Universities May (and Should) Cut Ties

More universities may, and should, cut their institutional memberships with ASA. As former Harvard University President Lawrence Summers has cogently argued, “My hope would be that responsible university leaders will become very reluctant to see their university’s funds used to finance faculty membership and faculty travel to an association that is showing itself not to be a scholarly association but really more of a political tool.”

The Courts May Have the Final Say

The ASA may be held accountable in other ways too. Its resolution has, to say the least, pushed the legal envelope with respect to anti-boycott laws. Several groups, including the Louis D. Brandeis Center, are contemplating taking legal action against the association. Anti-Israel boycotts may violate federal anti-boycott law, as well as the laws of some states, such as Section 296(13) of New York’s Human Rights’ Law, and localities. The ASA, and other institutions that adopt such boycott resolutions, should not be surprised to find themselves in court.

In addition, the BDS resolution may jeopardize the ASA’s tax-exempt status with the Internal Revenue Service, since it is arguably a political activity outside of the ASA’s mission. The ASA is on notice that its tax-exempt status may soon be challenged.

Update: Georgetown University has informed us that they do not have an institutional membership in the ASA and that they have issued a statement criticizing the ASA’s action. We have heard from Columbia University faculty that both Columbia and Barnard have also issued statements criticizing the ASA’s resolution.

since it is arguably a political activity outside of the ASA’s mission.

Supporting Israel is also a political activity.

 

[SAYIT]

et al,

POINT #1:

The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) Movement may, in point of fact, be discriminatory or prejudiced against Jews. I suppose the is individually subjective in the reasoning one uses in supporting BDS.

Having said that, the BDS Movement is a "non-violent" means of protesting against the policies of the State of Israel. And that is a key factor (non-violence). You may or may not agree with the BDS Movement, but it beats Jihadist and Fedayeen terrorist operations.

Non-violent protest is legal; violent protests are not.
​

POINT #2:

When we say something is "anti-Semitic," are we saying that:

• BDS is focused on Jewish People and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
• BDS is focused on Israel and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
• Are they one and the same thing and therefore "anti-Semitic?"

Now, a BDS supporter can be both Anti-Israeli and Anti-Jew. But is it possible for a BDS supporter can be one or the other?

(OBJECTIVE VIEW)

They are different things.

Most Respectfully,
R

Apparently the NY state legislature think differently.

New York Senate passes bill punishing ASA over Israel boycott
Alex Kane on January 28, 2014 5

Legislation that targets the American Studies Association over its decision to boycott Israel passed its first test today: a vote in the New York Senate. The bill, introduced by Democratic Senator Jeff Klein, the co-leader of the body, passed by a vote of 56-4.

The measure prohibits colleges and universities from spending taxpayer funds on academic groups that support boycotting Israel. While the measure applies to any academic organization that boycotts countries where the New York Board of Regents has chartered a school, the focus is on Israel. A companion bill is currently being considered in the Assembly. If it passes there–48 lawmakers are co-sponsors of it–it will be up to Governor Andrew Cuomo to either sign the bill or veto it.

“This legislation sends a very simple message, which is that we should never ask taxpayers to support religious, ethnic, or racial discrimination. We need to marginalize the politics of intolerance whenever it rears its ugly head,” Senator Klein, who represents the Bronx and Westchester, said in a statement. ”I will not allow the enemies of Israel or the Jewish people to gain an inch in New York. The First Amendment protects every organization’s right to speak, but it never requires taxpayers to foot the bill.”

The bill’s principal impact will fall on students or scholars from state schools who receive money from their institutions to travel to the ASA convention–or to conventions held by the Native American and Indigenous Studies Association and the Association for Asian American Studies, both of which have voted to boycott Israel. The legislation also prohibits state schools from paying membership fees to the ASA. In practice, this will affect individual departments at state institutions, since departments pay membership fees, not schools themselves.

Institutions violating the legislation would be cut off from state aid during the academic year the violation occurred. The legislation also has language that exempts certain kinds of boycotts: boycotts related to labor disputes, countries that are “state sponsors” of terrorism, and boycotts that target “unlawful discriminatory practices”.

“This legislation sends a very simple message, which is that we should never ask taxpayers to support religious, ethnic, or racial discrimination.

So, the law is based on a lie.

Interesting legal concept. I wonder if they can get that pig to fly in court.

The ASA may well get that day in court ... assuming there is an ASA left to defend but regardless, the opinion of the Aussie FM remains.

 

[Roudy]

et al,

POINT #1:

The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) Movement may, in point of fact, be discriminatory or prejudiced against Jews. I suppose the is individually subjective in the reasoning one uses in supporting BDS.

Having said that, the BDS Movement is a "non-violent" means of protesting against the policies of the State of Israel. And that is a key factor (non-violence). You may or may not agree with the BDS Movement, but it beats Jihadist and Fedayeen terrorist operations.

Non-violent protest is legal; violent protests are not.
​

POINT #2:

When we say something is "anti-Semitic," are we saying that:

• BDS is focused on Jewish People and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
• BDS is focused on Israel and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
• Are they one and the same thing and therefore "anti-Semitic?"

Now, a BDS supporter can be both Anti-Israeli and Anti-Jew. But is it possible for a BDS supporter can be one or the other?

(OBJECTIVE VIEW)

They are different things.

Most Respectfully,
R

Apparently the NY state legislature think differently.

New York Senate passes bill punishing ASA over Israel boycott
Alex Kane on January 28, 2014 5

Legislation that targets the American Studies Association over its decision to boycott Israel passed its first test today: a vote in the New York Senate. The bill, introduced by Democratic Senator Jeff Klein, the co-leader of the body, passed by a vote of 56-4.

The measure prohibits colleges and universities from spending taxpayer funds on academic groups that support boycotting Israel. While the measure applies to any academic organization that boycotts countries where the New York Board of Regents has chartered a school, the focus is on Israel. A companion bill is currently being considered in the Assembly. If it passes there–48 lawmakers are co-sponsors of it–it will be up to Governor Andrew Cuomo to either sign the bill or veto it.

“This legislation sends a very simple message, which is that we should never ask taxpayers to support religious, ethnic, or racial discrimination. We need to marginalize the politics of intolerance whenever it rears its ugly head,” Senator Klein, who represents the Bronx and Westchester, said in a statement. ”I will not allow the enemies of Israel or the Jewish people to gain an inch in New York. The First Amendment protects every organization’s right to speak, but it never requires taxpayers to foot the bill.”

The bill’s principal impact will fall on students or scholars from state schools who receive money from their institutions to travel to the ASA convention–or to conventions held by the Native American and Indigenous Studies Association and the Association for Asian American Studies, both of which have voted to boycott Israel. The legislation also prohibits state schools from paying membership fees to the ASA. In practice, this will affect individual departments at state institutions, since departments pay membership fees, not schools themselves.

Institutions violating the legislation would be cut off from state aid during the academic year the violation occurred. The legislation also has language that exempts certain kinds of boycotts: boycotts related to labor disputes, countries that are “state sponsors” of terrorism, and boycotts that target “unlawful discriminatory practices”.

“This legislation sends a very simple message, which is that we should never ask taxpayers to support religious, ethnic, or racial discrimination.

So, the law is based on a lie.

Interesting legal concept. I wonder if they can get that pig to fly in court.

Tinhead, maybe you can write a letter to some of these university presidents protesting that this decision is based on what you, the all knowing Tinhead thinks is a lie. Ya never know!


Brown Rejects Boycott of Israeli Academic Institutions | BU Today | Boston University


Brown Rejects Boycott of Israeli Academic Institutions | BU Today | Boston University

President Robert A. Brown has rejected a scholarly group’s boycott of Israeli academic institutions, saying that he is “disappointed and concerned” that the American Studies Association (ASA) would support the move.

“Research, teaching, and scholarship flourish through robust exchange of ideas, across borders and among institutions in different parts of the world,” Brown writes. “Universities and their faculties can often transcend even profound political differences. It is ill-advised to make academic institutions the instrument with which to promote a political agenda by attempting to isolate students and scholars.

“Boston University cannot support this boycott,” the president concludes.

*****

YaleNews | Statement from Yale President Peter Salovey on Israeli boycott

Statement from Yale President Peter Salovey on Israeli boycott

December 20, 2013
Yale University President Peter Salovey issued the following statement on Dec. 20, 2013:

Any attempt to close off discussion or dialogue among scholars is antithetical to the fundamental values of scholarship and academic freedom. I stand with the Executive Committee of the Association of American Universities in my strong opposition to a boycott of Israeli academic institutions. At the same time, I acknowledge that individual faculty members have the right to their own opinions and beliefs, even if I disagree with those beliefs.

 

[Phoenall]

et al,

POINT #1:

The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) Movement may, in point of fact, be discriminatory or prejudiced against Jews. I suppose the is individually subjective in the reasoning one uses in supporting BDS.

Having said that, the BDS Movement is a "non-violent" means of protesting against the policies of the State of Israel. And that is a key factor (non-violence). You may or may not agree with the BDS Movement, but it beats Jihadist and Fedayeen terrorist operations.

Non-violent protest is legal; violent protests are not.
​

POINT #2:

When we say something is "anti-Semitic," are we saying that:

• BDS is focused on Jewish People and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
• BDS is focused on Israel and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
• Are they one and the same thing and therefore "anti-Semitic?"

Now, a BDS supporter can be both Anti-Israeli and Anti-Jew. But is it possible for a BDS supporter can be one or the other?

(OBJECTIVE VIEW)

They are different things.

Most Respectfully,
R

Apparently the NY state legislature think differently.

New York Senate passes bill punishing ASA over Israel boycott
Alex Kane on January 28, 2014 5

Legislation that targets the American Studies Association over its decision to boycott Israel passed its first test today: a vote in the New York Senate. The bill, introduced by Democratic Senator Jeff Klein, the co-leader of the body, passed by a vote of 56-4.

The measure prohibits colleges and universities from spending taxpayer funds on academic groups that support boycotting Israel. While the measure applies to any academic organization that boycotts countries where the New York Board of Regents has chartered a school, the focus is on Israel. A companion bill is currently being considered in the Assembly. If it passes there–48 lawmakers are co-sponsors of it–it will be up to Governor Andrew Cuomo to either sign the bill or veto it.

“This legislation sends a very simple message, which is that we should never ask taxpayers to support religious, ethnic, or racial discrimination. We need to marginalize the politics of intolerance whenever it rears its ugly head,” Senator Klein, who represents the Bronx and Westchester, said in a statement. ”I will not allow the enemies of Israel or the Jewish people to gain an inch in New York. The First Amendment protects every organization’s right to speak, but it never requires taxpayers to foot the bill.”

The bill’s principal impact will fall on students or scholars from state schools who receive money from their institutions to travel to the ASA convention–or to conventions held by the Native American and Indigenous Studies Association and the Association for Asian American Studies, both of which have voted to boycott Israel. The legislation also prohibits state schools from paying membership fees to the ASA. In practice, this will affect individual departments at state institutions, since departments pay membership fees, not schools themselves.

Institutions violating the legislation would be cut off from state aid during the academic year the violation occurred. The legislation also has language that exempts certain kinds of boycotts: boycotts related to labor disputes, countries that are “state sponsors” of terrorism, and boycotts that target “unlawful discriminatory practices”.

“This legislation sends a very simple message, which is that we should never ask taxpayers to support religious, ethnic, or racial discrimination.

So, the law is based on a lie.

Interesting legal concept. I wonder if they can get that pig to fly in court.

So which law is based on what LIE. To me it is a simple civil rights issue if the BDS is based on religious, ethnic or racial discrimination then it is illegal. As the video I posted showed the people supporting the BDS movement are doing so because of religious, ethnic and/or racial discrimination.

 

[Phoenall]

Apparently the NY state legislature think differently.

New York Senate passes bill punishing ASA over Israel boycott
Alex Kane on January 28, 2014 5

Legislation that targets the American Studies Association over its decision to boycott Israel passed its first test today: a vote in the New York Senate. The bill, introduced by Democratic Senator Jeff Klein, the co-leader of the body, passed by a vote of 56-4.

The measure prohibits colleges and universities from spending taxpayer funds on academic groups that support boycotting Israel. While the measure applies to any academic organization that boycotts countries where the New York Board of Regents has chartered a school, the focus is on Israel. A companion bill is currently being considered in the Assembly. If it passes there–48 lawmakers are co-sponsors of it–it will be up to Governor Andrew Cuomo to either sign the bill or veto it.

“This legislation sends a very simple message, which is that we should never ask taxpayers to support religious, ethnic, or racial discrimination. We need to marginalize the politics of intolerance whenever it rears its ugly head,” Senator Klein, who represents the Bronx and Westchester, said in a statement. ”I will not allow the enemies of Israel or the Jewish people to gain an inch in New York. The First Amendment protects every organization’s right to speak, but it never requires taxpayers to foot the bill.”

The bill’s principal impact will fall on students or scholars from state schools who receive money from their institutions to travel to the ASA convention–or to conventions held by the Native American and Indigenous Studies Association and the Association for Asian American Studies, both of which have voted to boycott Israel. The legislation also prohibits state schools from paying membership fees to the ASA. In practice, this will affect individual departments at state institutions, since departments pay membership fees, not schools themselves.

Institutions violating the legislation would be cut off from state aid during the academic year the violation occurred. The legislation also has language that exempts certain kinds of boycotts: boycotts related to labor disputes, countries that are “state sponsors” of terrorism, and boycotts that target “unlawful discriminatory practices”.

And the best universitities in the US agree.


The American Studies Association's BDS Resolution | The Louis D. Brandeis Center Blog

The ASA’s New Image
The ASA Was the Biggest Loser

In the end, the ASA is the biggest loser, and this outcome will not be lost on other associations. For its efforts, the ASA is now publicly mocked, ridiculed and condemned, even by some of its own members and past presidents, as well as by major scholars and numerous university presidents. Even those who do not discern anti-Semitism in the ASA resolution nevertheless perceive a violation of academic freedom. The American Association of University Professors announced that the boycott would violate the academic freedom “not only of Israeli scholars but also of American scholars who might be pressured to comply with it.” More importantly, perhaps, the ASA has now lost any scholarly reputation that it might previously have had and is now seen as a largely political institution.

Four universities have already terminated their institutional memberships in the ASA. Penn State Harrisburg was the first to cut its formal ties, followed by Brandeis University, Indiana University at Bloomington, and Kenyon College. These four institutions should be honored for their leadership.

In short order, over sixty universities have issued strong statements rejecting the ASA’s actions. Professor William A. Jacobson compiled this list of institutions that have denounced the ASA boycott:

American University (D.C.)
Birmingham Southern College
Boston University
Bowdon College
Brandeis University
Brooklyn College, CUNY
Brown University
Case Western Reserve University
Cornell University
Dickinson College
Duke University
Florida International University
Fordham University
George Washington University
Hamilton College
Harvard University
Haverford College
Indiana University
Johns Hopkins University
Kenyon College
Lehigh University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Michigan State
Middlebury College
New York University
Northwestern University
Ohio State
Princeton University
Purdue University
Rhode Island College
Rutgers University
Smith College
Stanford University
The City University of New York
Trinity College (CT)
Tufts University
Tulane University
University of Alabama System
University of California System
University of California-Berkeley
University of California-Irvine
University of California-San Diego
University of Chicago
University of Cincinnati
University of Connecticut
University of Delaware
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
University of Kansas
University of Maryland
University of Maryland – Baltimore County
University of Miami
University of Michigan
University of Pennsylvania
University of Pittsburgh
University of Southern California
University of Texas-Austin
Washington University in St. Louis
Wesleyan University
Willamette University
Yale University
Yeshiva University

Other Universities May (and Should) Cut Ties

More universities may, and should, cut their institutional memberships with ASA. As former Harvard University President Lawrence Summers has cogently argued, “My hope would be that responsible university leaders will become very reluctant to see their university’s funds used to finance faculty membership and faculty travel to an association that is showing itself not to be a scholarly association but really more of a political tool.”

The Courts May Have the Final Say

The ASA may be held accountable in other ways too. Its resolution has, to say the least, pushed the legal envelope with respect to anti-boycott laws. Several groups, including the Louis D. Brandeis Center, are contemplating taking legal action against the association. Anti-Israel boycotts may violate federal anti-boycott law, as well as the laws of some states, such as Section 296(13) of New York’s Human Rights’ Law, and localities. The ASA, and other institutions that adopt such boycott resolutions, should not be surprised to find themselves in court.

In addition, the BDS resolution may jeopardize the ASA’s tax-exempt status with the Internal Revenue Service, since it is arguably a political activity outside of the ASA’s mission. The ASA is on notice that its tax-exempt status may soon be challenged.

Update: Georgetown University has informed us that they do not have an institutional membership in the ASA and that they have issued a statement criticizing the ASA’s action. We have heard from Columbia University faculty that both Columbia and Barnard have also issued statements criticizing the ASA’s resolution.

since it is arguably a political activity outside of the ASA’s mission.

Supporting Israel is also a political activity.

TRUE but it is not discriminatory is it, so does not flout any laws. Like your support for the HoAP which as long as you don't resort to personal attacks on Israel and the Jews . Once you do that it then becomes an illegal political activity

 

[aris2chat]

Apparently the NY state legislature think differently.

New York Senate passes bill punishing ASA over Israel boycott
Alex Kane on January 28, 2014 5

Legislation that targets the American Studies Association over its decision to boycott Israel passed its first test today: a vote in the New York Senate. The bill, introduced by Democratic Senator Jeff Klein, the co-leader of the body, passed by a vote of 56-4.

The measure prohibits colleges and universities from spending taxpayer funds on academic groups that support boycotting Israel. While the measure applies to any academic organization that boycotts countries where the New York Board of Regents has chartered a school, the focus is on Israel. A companion bill is currently being considered in the Assembly. If it passes there–48 lawmakers are co-sponsors of it–it will be up to Governor Andrew Cuomo to either sign the bill or veto it.

“This legislation sends a very simple message, which is that we should never ask taxpayers to support religious, ethnic, or racial discrimination. We need to marginalize the politics of intolerance whenever it rears its ugly head,” Senator Klein, who represents the Bronx and Westchester, said in a statement. ”I will not allow the enemies of Israel or the Jewish people to gain an inch in New York. The First Amendment protects every organization’s right to speak, but it never requires taxpayers to foot the bill.”

The bill’s principal impact will fall on students or scholars from state schools who receive money from their institutions to travel to the ASA convention–or to conventions held by the Native American and Indigenous Studies Association and the Association for Asian American Studies, both of which have voted to boycott Israel. The legislation also prohibits state schools from paying membership fees to the ASA. In practice, this will affect individual departments at state institutions, since departments pay membership fees, not schools themselves.

Institutions violating the legislation would be cut off from state aid during the academic year the violation occurred. The legislation also has language that exempts certain kinds of boycotts: boycotts related to labor disputes, countries that are “state sponsors” of terrorism, and boycotts that target “unlawful discriminatory practices”.

“This legislation sends a very simple message, which is that we should never ask taxpayers to support religious, ethnic, or racial discrimination.

So, the law is based on a lie.

Interesting legal concept. I wonder if they can get that pig to fly in court.

So which law is based on what LIE. To me it is a simple civil rights issue if the BDS is based on religious, ethnic or racial discrimination then it is illegal. As the video I posted showed the people supporting the BDS movement are doing so because of religious, ethnic and/or racial discrimination.

BDS is well organized and set up by the palestinians. It is clearly bias.

It would get them farther to talk to Israel instead of attacking through this and other organizations like solidarity.

If the want to build a future, why under mind the business that might help generate valuable income for the WB. PA should be encouraging companies from Israel or anywhere else to invest in the WB because peace is possible and there will no security danger for the inverters.

Maybe the PA should buy out the companies, and run the business themselves, with their own employees, or buy in and get a percentage.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Apparently the NY state legislature think differently.

New York Senate passes bill punishing ASA over Israel boycott
Alex Kane on January 28, 2014 5

Legislation that targets the American Studies Association over its decision to boycott Israel passed its first test today: a vote in the New York Senate. The bill, introduced by Democratic Senator Jeff Klein, the co-leader of the body, passed by a vote of 56-4.

The measure prohibits colleges and universities from spending taxpayer funds on academic groups that support boycotting Israel. While the measure applies to any academic organization that boycotts countries where the New York Board of Regents has chartered a school, the focus is on Israel. A companion bill is currently being considered in the Assembly. If it passes there–48 lawmakers are co-sponsors of it–it will be up to Governor Andrew Cuomo to either sign the bill or veto it.

“This legislation sends a very simple message, which is that we should never ask taxpayers to support religious, ethnic, or racial discrimination. We need to marginalize the politics of intolerance whenever it rears its ugly head,” Senator Klein, who represents the Bronx and Westchester, said in a statement. ”I will not allow the enemies of Israel or the Jewish people to gain an inch in New York. The First Amendment protects every organization’s right to speak, but it never requires taxpayers to foot the bill.”

The bill’s principal impact will fall on students or scholars from state schools who receive money from their institutions to travel to the ASA convention–or to conventions held by the Native American and Indigenous Studies Association and the Association for Asian American Studies, both of which have voted to boycott Israel. The legislation also prohibits state schools from paying membership fees to the ASA. In practice, this will affect individual departments at state institutions, since departments pay membership fees, not schools themselves.

Institutions violating the legislation would be cut off from state aid during the academic year the violation occurred. The legislation also has language that exempts certain kinds of boycotts: boycotts related to labor disputes, countries that are “state sponsors” of terrorism, and boycotts that target “unlawful discriminatory practices”.

“This legislation sends a very simple message, which is that we should never ask taxpayers to support religious, ethnic, or racial discrimination.

So, the law is based on a lie.

Interesting legal concept. I wonder if they can get that pig to fly in court.

So which law is based on what LIE. To me it is a simple civil rights issue if the BDS is based on religious, ethnic or racial discrimination then it is illegal. As the video I posted showed the people supporting the BDS movement are doing so because of religious, ethnic and/or racial discrimination.

It is not so it is not.

 

[Roudy]

So, the law is based on a lie.

Interesting legal concept. I wonder if they can get that pig to fly in court.

So which law is based on what LIE. To me it is a simple civil rights issue if the BDS is based on religious, ethnic or racial discrimination then it is illegal. As the video I posted showed the people supporting the BDS movement are doing so because of religious, ethnic and/or racial discrimination.

It is not so it is not.

BDS is an organization that clearly discriminates and uses thuggery and bullying tactics to further its agenda. Therefore the bill legal and correct. I look forward to all 50 states adopting similar laws against BDS and the like.

 

[P F Tinmore]

So which law is based on what LIE. To me it is a simple civil rights issue if the BDS is based on religious, ethnic or racial discrimination then it is illegal. As the video I posted showed the people supporting the BDS movement are doing so because of religious, ethnic and/or racial discrimination.

It is not so it is not.

BDS is an organization that clearly discriminates and uses thuggery and bullying tactics to further its agenda. Therefore the bill legal and correct. I look forward to all 50 states adopting similar laws against BDS and the like.

If the laws are based on discrimination they don't mean squat.

 

[Phoenall]

So, the law is based on a lie.

Interesting legal concept. I wonder if they can get that pig to fly in court.

So which law is based on what LIE. To me it is a simple civil rights issue if the BDS is based on religious, ethnic or racial discrimination then it is illegal. As the video I posted showed the people supporting the BDS movement are doing so because of religious, ethnic and/or racial discrimination.

It is not so it is not.

Instead of deflecting away from the question why don't you give a straight answer for once, it does your already tattered credibility no good to fudge and hedge questions about your written word.

ONCE AGAIN

So which law is based on what LIE

 

[Phoenall]

It is not so it is not.

BDS is an organization that clearly discriminates and uses thuggery and bullying tactics to further its agenda. Therefore the bill legal and correct. I look forward to all 50 states adopting similar laws against BDS and the like.

If the laws are based on discrimination they don't mean squat.

Unless they are used to counter discrimination of the ragheads and the left wing lunatics.

Now the laws passed will have been scrutinised by lawyers better versed in law than you are and they will have amended the law so they are not illegal. It is discriminatory to single out a race/religion/nationality for undue pressure and hatred which is what the BDS is doing. As I have said the video I posted showed this to be a fact when the moronic man said he would not be protesting if it had not been a Jewish shop selling Israeli goods .

 

[Roudy]

It is not so it is not.

BDS is an organization that clearly discriminates and uses thuggery and bullying tactics to further its agenda. Therefore the bill legal and correct. I look forward to all 50 states adopting similar laws against BDS and the like.

If the laws are based on discrimination they don't mean squat.

Sure they do. Maybe not to an Islamofacist ass kisser like you it doesn't.