Australia FM: Don’t call Settlements illegal:: BDS is "Anti-semitic"

[toastman]

Back to the thread topic:


BDS isn't anti-semitic in any way.

It's just a way to punish a rogue racist state and hopefully bring down it's fascist government. ...

Then why aren't they punishing racist rogue states?...like Syria, Iran for example

 

[aris2chat]

going down hard...............

N.Y. State Bill Would End Funding to Schools With BDS Ties
American Studies Association Boycott Launched Bill

By JTA
Published January 27, 2014.

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A bill introduced in the New York State Assembly would suspend funding to educational institutions which fund groups that boycott Israel.

The legislation, introduced earlier this month by Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver and first reported by Mondoweiss, an anti-Zionist news site, would ban state funding to colleges which fund groups that boycott “in countries that host higher education institutions chartered by the Board of Regents of the University of the State of New York.”

A number of New York-based universities have Israel branches, and Silver made clear in a statement that the target was groups that boycott Israel.

The Democratic lawmaker said he initiated the measure “in response to the American Studies Association’s boycott of Israel and its academic institutions.”

“Colleges should not use funds to support boycotts, resolutions or any similar actions that are discriminatory and limit academic opportunities,” he said in the statement.

The ASA was one of three U.S. academic groupings to boycott Israeli academic institutions last year.

The bill, which currently has 48 sponsors out of 150 members, would cut funding to institutions that pay dues to groups such as the ASA or which subsidize travel to its conferences.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I can see the BDS movement bowing down to her.
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A simple matter of enforcing already existing racism laws and the BDS movement would be illegal. They don't have the support to make it political, and any insurgents could face lengthy jail terms

BDS has nothing to do with race. It is all about following international law. There is nothing illegal there.

 

[toastman]

Coyote, why do I have a feeling that if Sunni Man's comment which Jroc quoted above was posted by someone else, and they substituted Jews with Muslims, you would be all over it, calling that person a Muslim Hater

 

[Roudy]

I can see the BDS movement bowing down to her.
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A simple matter of enforcing already existing racism laws and the BDS movement would be illegal. They don't have the support to make it political, and any insurgents could face lengthy jail terms

BDS has nothing to do with race. It is all about following international law. There is nothing illegal there.

BDS has been take over by racist anti semetic pigs.

 

[Sunni Man]

Kinda funny how the board's zionist Juden cabal turn the thread about BDS against Israel into a an Islamic hate thread and a personal attack on a muslim poster.

But it figures because defending apartheid Israel is a very difficult task. ...

 

[Phoenall]

I can see the BDS movement bowing down to her.
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A simple matter of enforcing already existing racism laws and the BDS movement would be illegal. They don't have the support to make it political, and any insurgents could face lengthy jail terms

BDS has nothing to do with race. It is all about following international law. There is nothing illegal there.

So you will have no problem in posting the part of International Law that says we must boycott Israel and render the country inhabitable and derelict.

And France made the boycotting of Jewish shops illegal under International law

 

[Phoenall]

Kinda funny how the board's zionist Juden cabal turn the thread about BDS against Israel into a an Islamic hate thread and a personal attack on a muslim poster.

But it figures because defending apartheid Israel is a very difficult task. ...

Do you get paid by the post, or is it by the word when you LIE about Israel. The only apartheid places in the M.E are all Islamic.

 

[Sunni Man]

It's very dishonest for the zionist juden to claim that BDS is anti-semitic. ...

 

[toastman]

Kinda funny how the board's zionist Juden cabal turn the thread about BDS against Israel into a an Islamic hate thread and a personal attack on a muslim poster.

But it figures because defending apartheid Israel is a very difficult task. ...

LOL ! Sunni Troll claiming others are hateful while using the word Juden

How Ironic

 

[SAYIT]

Kinda funny how the board's zionist Juden cabal turn the thread about BDS against Israel into a an Islamic hate thread and a personal attack on a muslim poster.

But it figures because defending apartheid Israel is a very difficult task. ...

Actually the thread is about the Aussie FM's opinion that the BDS Movement is anti-Semitic in nature ... something you are too far gone to see clearly.

 

[P F Tinmore]

A simple matter of enforcing already existing racism laws and the BDS movement would be illegal. They don't have the support to make it political, and any insurgents could face lengthy jail terms

BDS has nothing to do with race. It is all about following international law. There is nothing illegal there.

So you will have no problem in posting the part of International Law that says we must boycott Israel and render the country inhabitable and derelict.

And France made the boycotting of Jewish shops illegal under International law

BDS isn't against Jews.

 

[Hossfly]

BDS has nothing to do with race. It is all about following international law. There is nothing illegal there.

So you will have no problem in posting the part of International Law that says we must boycott Israel and render the country inhabitable and derelict.

And France made the boycotting of Jewish shops illegal under International law

BDS isn't against Jews.

Then who? Cayman Islanders? Eskimos?

 

[Phoenall]

BDS has nothing to do with race. It is all about following international law. There is nothing illegal there.

So you will have no problem in posting the part of International Law that says we must boycott Israel and render the country inhabitable and derelict.

And France made the boycotting of Jewish shops illegal under International law

BDS isn't against Jews.

Did you not see the video I posted that showed that they are RACIST NAZI ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATERS . When the man interviewed stated that he was only there to protest against the Jews, and that if the goods were from a muslim source he would not be boycotting the shop.

BDS is a neo Marxist group that is anti Jewish through and through, anyone that supports their illegal activity is just as bad.

So were is the link I asked for that shows it is part of International law to boycott Israel

 

[P F Tinmore]

So you will have no problem in posting the part of International Law that says we must boycott Israel and render the country inhabitable and derelict.

And France made the boycotting of Jewish shops illegal under International law

BDS isn't against Jews.

Did you not see the video I posted that showed that they are RACIST NAZI ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATERS . When the man interviewed stated that he was only there to protest against the Jews, and that if the goods were from a muslim source he would not be boycotting the shop.

BDS is a neo Marxist group that is anti Jewish through and through, anyone that supports their illegal activity is just as bad.

So were is the link I asked for that shows it is part of International law to boycott Israel

One man?

That is quite a consensus you have there.

 

[Coyote]

Thread has been split into two threads in order to allow a return to the OP.

Off topic posts have been moved here for further discussion:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/usmb-badlands/337398-spinoff-bds-anti-semitic-sharia-patriotism.html

 

[RoccoR]

et al,

POINT #1:

The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) Movement may, in point of fact, be discriminatory or prejudiced against Jews. I suppose the is individually subjective in the reasoning one uses in supporting BDS.

Having said that, the BDS Movement is a "non-violent" means of protesting against the policies of the State of Israel. And that is a key factor (non-violence). You may or may not agree with the BDS Movement, but it beats Jihadist and Fedayeen terrorist operations.

Non-violent protest is legal; violent protests are not.
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POINT #2:

When we say something is "anti-Semitic," are we saying that:

• BDS is focused on Jewish People and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
• BDS is focused on Israel and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
• Are they one and the same thing and therefore "anti-Semitic?"

Now, a BDS supporter can be both Anti-Israeli and Anti-Jew. But is it possible for a BDS supporter can be one or the other?

(OBJECTIVE VIEW)

They are different things.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[abu afak]

When we say something is "anti-Semitic," are we saying that:

[*]BDS is focused on Jewish People and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
[*]BDS is focused on Israel and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
[*]Are they one and the same thing and therefore "anti-Semitic?"

Now, a BDS supporter can be both Anti-Israeli and Anti-Jew. But is it possible for a BDS supporter can be one or the other?

[BS](OBJECTIVE VIEW)[/BS]

They are different things.

I think what the FM of Australia is saying (and we all understand, despite Rocco's usual Pompous space-waster) is Israel is being Boycotted BECAUSE it is a/the Jewish State.

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[RoccoR]

abu afak, et al,

There is a disagreement here.

When we say something is "anti-Semitic," are we saying that:

[*]BDS is focused on Jewish People and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
[*]BDS is focused on Israel and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
[*]Are they one and the same thing and therefore "anti-Semitic?"

Now, a BDS supporter can be both Anti-Israeli and Anti-Jew. But is it possible for a BDS supporter can be one or the other?

[BS](OBJECTIVE VIEW)[/BS]

They are different things.

I think what the FM of Australia is saying (and we all understand, despite Rocco's usual Pompous space-waster) is Israel is being Boycotted BECAUSE it is a/the Jewish State.

(COMMENT)

If this is the case and what is being said (Israel is being Boycotted BECAUSE it is a/the Jewish State) --- THEN it is anti-semitic.

But the BDS Movement is not about "Jewishness."

The campaign for boycotts, divestment and sanctions (BDS) is shaped by a rights-based approach and highlights the three broad sections of the Palestinian people: the refugees, those under military occupation in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, and Palestinians in Israel. The call urges various forms of boycott against Israel until it meets its obligations under international law by:

1. Ending its occupation and colonization of all Arab lands occupied in June 1967 and dismantling the Wall;
2. Recognizing the fundamental rights of the Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel to full equality; and
3. Respecting, protecting and promoting the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties as stipulated in UN Resolution 194.

SOURCE: bdsmovement.net

While there is nothing about the root reasoning behind the BDS movement that I appreciate, I do not think it is about "Jewishness" and, therefore is not anti-Semitic.

I do think that there are anti-Semitic followers that support BDS. But they are not anti-Semitic because they support BDS.

If this is a "Pompous space-waster" I do apologize.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Roudy]

et al,

POINT #1:

The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) Movement may, in point of fact, be discriminatory or prejudiced against Jews. I suppose the is individually subjective in the reasoning one uses in supporting BDS.

Having said that, the BDS Movement is a "non-violent" means of protesting against the policies of the State of Israel. And that is a key factor (non-violence). You may or may not agree with the BDS Movement, but it beats Jihadist and Fedayeen terrorist operations.

Non-violent protest is legal; violent protests are not.
​

POINT #2:

When we say something is "anti-Semitic," are we saying that:

• BDS is focused on Jewish People and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
• BDS is focused on Israel and therefore "anti-Semitic?"
• Are they one and the same thing and therefore "anti-Semitic?"

Now, a BDS supporter can be both Anti-Israeli and Anti-Jew. But is it possible for a BDS supporter can be one or the other?

(OBJECTIVE VIEW)

They are different things.

Most Respectfully,
R

Apparently the NY state legislature think differently.

New York Senate passes bill punishing ASA over Israel boycott
Alex Kane on January 28, 2014 5

Legislation that targets the American Studies Association over its decision to boycott Israel passed its first test today: a vote in the New York Senate. The bill, introduced by Democratic Senator Jeff Klein, the co-leader of the body, passed by a vote of 56-4.

The measure prohibits colleges and universities from spending taxpayer funds on academic groups that support boycotting Israel. While the measure applies to any academic organization that boycotts countries where the New York Board of Regents has chartered a school, the focus is on Israel. A companion bill is currently being considered in the Assembly. If it passes there–48 lawmakers are co-sponsors of it–it will be up to Governor Andrew Cuomo to either sign the bill or veto it.

“This legislation sends a very simple message, which is that we should never ask taxpayers to support religious, ethnic, or racial discrimination. We need to marginalize the politics of intolerance whenever it rears its ugly head,” Senator Klein, who represents the Bronx and Westchester, said in a statement. ”I will not allow the enemies of Israel or the Jewish people to gain an inch in New York. The First Amendment protects every organization’s right to speak, but it never requires taxpayers to foot the bill.”

The bill’s principal impact will fall on students or scholars from state schools who receive money from their institutions to travel to the ASA convention–or to conventions held by the Native American and Indigenous Studies Association and the Association for Asian American Studies, both of which have voted to boycott Israel. The legislation also prohibits state schools from paying membership fees to the ASA. In practice, this will affect individual departments at state institutions, since departments pay membership fees, not schools themselves.

Institutions violating the legislation would be cut off from state aid during the academic year the violation occurred. The legislation also has language that exempts certain kinds of boycotts: boycotts related to labor disputes, countries that are “state sponsors” of terrorism, and boycotts that target “unlawful discriminatory practices”.