"atlas shrugged" will change the face of american politics

[Uncensored2008]

Nobody could knock down literary socialist strawmen like Ayn.

She was a master of creating easy targets for our contempt.

I remember reading AS in the early 60s and root root rooting for her team, too.

Of course I was like 14 or so, the ideal age to think like a libertarian.

Then you regressed.

8 is the ideal age to think like a socialist.

Is your daddy Obama gunna take care of you?

 

[Uncensored2008]

rand was a crapy writer who hated mankind and though being selfish was a sign of greatness.


She ended up on SS and died a pauper.


great hero morons

You failed to successfully read "Green Eggs and Ham."

Rand is a bit beyond your grasp.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Did Ayn Rand walk point for the masters of the universe? Or was she a ditzy windbag selling books to immature thinkers to make a living?
Here are the facts.
You decide.


On abortion
'Abortion is a moral right--which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved,' [Ayn Rand] told an audience of 1,500 people at the Ford Hall Forum, five years before the Supreme Court decided Roe v. Wade in 1973 and in Massachusetts, in which abortion was then illegal. 'An embryo has no rights. Rights do not pertain to a potential, only to an actual being,' [Rand] declared.

On taking government assistance
Ayn Rand completed all the proofs of personal entitlement and then accepted Social Security payments and Medicare benefits under the name of Ann O'Connor and not under her literary name.

And so now we know a little bit more about the Holden Caulfield of the nutball element.

I understand she once had an automobile accident and had her insurance pay for the repairs.

What a hypocrite, using the insurance she paid for.

You Obmaunists are outraged, OUTRAGED. How dare she collect benefits from the programs she was FORCED to participate in?

Fucktardation is the root cause of leftism.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Since the first movie flopped so badly, are they going to make a second still?

Leftists, they're just flat out stupid.

Atlas Shrugged II: The Strike (2012) - IMDb

 

[konradv]

sorry I took so long, i'm back... did I miss anything ??

Not really, Atlas Shrugged hasn't any better chance of changing society than it did when you first posted about it.

 

[Truthmatters]

I may expose a really gullible crowd of people for their lack of mental power

 

[Esmeralda]

The Book has been a fool proof indicator of intelligence. Idiots hate it. Nuff said.

LOL Actually, it's just the opposite. It is not a book that is valued by literary scholars or by serious philosophers. Neither her novel, as a literary work, nor her philosophy are taught at university level because they are not sophisticated examples either artistically or philosophically of what is worthy of university level studies. I suppose you're going to say that all the intelligent people are actually not at universities: funny stuff that.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I may expose a really gullible crowd of people for their lack of mental power

You expose a lack of mental power alright.....

 

[Esmeralda]

Did Ayn Rand walk point for the masters of the universe? Or was she a ditzy windbag selling books to immature thinkers to make a living?
Here are the facts.
You decide.


On abortion
'Abortion is a moral right--which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved,' [Ayn Rand] told an audience of 1,500 people at the Ford Hall Forum, five years before the Supreme Court decided Roe v. Wade in 1973 and in Massachusetts, in which abortion was then illegal. 'An embryo has no rights. Rights do not pertain to a potential, only to an actual being,' [Rand] declared.

On taking government assistance
Ayn Rand completed all the proofs of personal entitlement and then accepted Social Security payments and Medicare benefits under the name of Ann O'Connor and not under her literary name.

And so now we know a little bit more about the Holden Caulfield of the nutball element.

I think she believed in what she wrote, but, obviously, proved herself a hypocrite by taking social security.

Her work appeals to the adolescent mind. I read it when I was a kid. Don't know exactly when as I was a voracious reader as a child and teenager, but it was long before I was of college age. I was entertained by the novel. Someone has said she wrote a good plot. I imagine that was it for me. Her philosophy is second or third rate. Nothing more.

 

[editec]

Hey, if you haven't read Altas Shrugged I totally suggest that you do.

It has a great plot line.

And while I could complain that it's POV is entirely contrived, what novel doesn't?

 

[Uncensored2008]

LOL Actually, it's just the opposite. It is not a book that is valued by literary scholars or by serious philosophers.

How the fuck would you know? Rachel Maddow told you?

I love the leftists, who walk in and spout partisan sophistry, whilst putting on airs of erudite levels of knowledge.

Neither her novel, as a literary work, nor her philosophy are taught at university level

False.

Over 60 U.S. Universities teach the works of Rand.

Ayn Rand Studies on Campus, Courtesy of BB&T : NPR

You simply are an ignorant, partisan hack.

because they are not sophisticated examples either artistically or philosophically of what is worthy of a university level studies. I suppose you're going to say that all the intelligent people are actually not at universities: funny stuff that.

I'm going to say that you are a hack who spews nonsense that you have zero knowledge of in order to serve your shameful party.

 

[Esmeralda]

LOL Actually, it's just the opposite. It is not a book that is valued by literary scholars or by serious philosophers.

How the fuck would you know? Rachel Maddow told you?

I love the leftists, who walk in and spout partisan sophistry, whilst putting on airs of erudite levels of knowledge.

Neither her novel, as a literary work, nor her philosophy are taught at university level

False.

Over 60 U.S. Universities teach the works of Rand.

Ayn Rand Studies on Campus, Courtesy of BB&T : NPR

You simply are an ignorant, partisan hack.

because they are not sophisticated examples either artistically or philosophically of what is worthy of a university level studies. I suppose you're going to say that all the intelligent people are actually not at universities: funny stuff that.

I'm going to say that you are a hack who spews nonsense that you have zero knowledge of in order to serve your shameful party.

My opinion of her work has nothing at all to do with politics. I have a master's degree in English literature. My opinion of her work is based on its artistic merits and the depth of its intellectual sophistication. As literature, it is intellectually at the level of adolescence. As far as philosophy, in the world of serious philosophy, she is considered second or third rate at best.

Not everyone's world is two dimensional: I don't filter everything in my life through a lense that sees only liberal/conservative, Republican/Democrat. In fact, doing so is a very limited way of viewing life and it’s primarily an American trait, not something most of the rest of the world does. .

 

[Uncensored2008]

I think she believed in what she wrote, but, obviously, proved herself a hypocrite by taking social security.

I realize that y'all are hacks; mindlessly spewing shit that the hate sites fed you. Still, how the fuck is it hypocritical to take benefits that you fucking paid for? What is it that has gone so wrong in wiring of the leftist central nervous system (I cannot confirm an actual brain,) that you actually think that argument has merit?

Her work appeals to the adolescent mind.

ROFL

Dayum, every drone says exactly the same thing, almost as if you're reading a script....

I read it when I was a kid.

Sure you did.

Don't know exactly when as I was a voracious reader as a child and teenager, but it was long before I was of college age. I was entertained by the novel. Someone has said she wrote a good plot. I imagine that was it for me. Her philosophy is second or third rate. Nothing more.

Right, because you are so brilliant and have a grasp of philosophy that outstrips the pedestrian Bourgeoisie...

Tell you what, since you are so utterly astute, why don't we set up a debate in the CDZ of the merits of Objectivism verses the merits of Material Dialecticalism? I mean, you're a brilliant Obamunist, and I am but a Libertarain rube - what have you to fear?

 

[Uncensored2008]

It is taught by business teachers, some business teachers. I don't really consider business studies a discipline of any intellectual depth.

Well, it sure isn't up there with underwater basket weaving and naval contemplation that forms the foundation of a liberal arts education..

But the best and brightest tend toward MBA programs, whilst those who can't hack business or hard science lean toward the mush of liberal arts.

I was refering to philosophy and literature. If some business teacher wants to present her capitalistic philosophy in an business class, that's one thing: but teaching her work as literature or philosophy: it isn't done.

ROFL

In other words, the hate sites fed you shit, which you mindlessly regurgitated, now you back peddle.

My opinion of her work has nothing at all to do with politics. I have a master's degree in English literature.

That and $5 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. I have an MBA, this is a master's degree with actual worth.

What can one do with an MA in underwater basket weaving? Teach? Oh but you can also, uh, um, I got nothing...

Oh, I can and do teach. But I also am qualified and am, an executive.

My opinion of her work is based on it's artistic meriits and the depth of it's intellectual sophistication. Not everyone's world is two dimensional:

You appear uni-directional. The party says it, you believe it; end of story.

I don't filter everything in my life through a lense that sees only liberal/conservative, Repubican/Democrat. In fact, doing so is a very limited way of viewing life and its primarily an American trait, not something most of the rest of the world does.

Have you ever held a job outside of academia? Have you ever had to produce something that another person would pay to receive?

 

[Truthmatters]

Ayn Rand is a joke you fools.

she hated SS right up until it was her only income

 

[Uncensored2008]

Ayn Rand is a joke you fools.

she hated SS right up until it was her only income

You're drooling. You may want one of the attendants to come clean you up.

 

[Esmeralda]

I think she believed in what she wrote, but, obviously, proved herself a hypocrite by taking social security.

I realize that y'all are hacks; mindlessly spewing shit that the hate sites fed you. Still, how the fuck is it hypocritical to take benefits that you fucking paid for? What is it that has gone so wrong in wiring of the leftist central nervous system (I cannot confirm an actual brain,) that you actually think that argument has merit?

Her work appeals to the adolescent mind.

ROFL

Dayum, every drone says exactly the same thing, almost as if you're reading a script....

I read it when I was a kid.

Sure you did.

Don't know exactly when as I was a voracious reader as a child and teenager, but it was long before I was of college age. I was entertained by the novel. Someone has said she wrote a good plot. I imagine that was it for me. Her philosophy is second or third rate. Nothing more.

Right, because you are so brilliant and have a grasp of philosophy that outstrips the pedestrian Bourgeoisie...

Tell you what, since you are so utterly astute, why don't we set up a debate in the CDZ of the merits of Objectivism verses the merits of Material Dialecticalism? I mean, you're a brilliant Obamunist, and I am but a Libertarain rube - what have you to fear?

Yes, I read it as a kid. I grew up in a working class home where no one read and no one gave me any guidance on what to read. So, I started out reading books that had been made into movies, the the old movies we watched on TV on Saturdays. Her books had been made into movies, and at that time of my life, probably in middle school, I believed that if something had been made into a movie, it was important, so I would read it. I read about ten books a month: I know because that was the limit the library would loan, and I went there once a month because the loan on a book was 30 days. So, every 30 days I went to the library and checked out a stack of books, returning those from the previous trip.

I wasn't concerned or even aware of her other works, her philosophy. I thought the book, the novel, was entertaining, as I said. I never thought about it much since then, until recent times when it has come up among American conservatives. I certainly don't have any interest in debating it. It isn't of any interest to me at all. You can think it is the Holy Grail if you want; you can verbally abuse me for my opinion on it. I don't care. You see, you totally miss the point. I am not discounting her because of politics. I am discounting her because she is a second rate novelist, a second rate philosopher and a second rate thinker.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yes, I read it as a kid. I grew up in a working class home where no one read and no one gave me any guidance on what to read.

Sure you did.

So, I started out reading books that had been made into movies, the the old movies we watched on TV on Saturdays. Her books had been made into movies, and at that time of my life, probably in middle school, I believed that if something had been made into a movie, it was important, so I would read it. I read about ten books a month: I know because that was the limit the library would loan, and I went there once a month because the loan on a book was 30 days. So, every 30 days I went to the library and checked out a stack of books, returning those from the previous trip.

But you just happened to pick up a 2,000 page tome on economic philosophy because you knew that someday the party would call on you to trash the vile infidels who dare speak against the glorious programs of our Deal Leader.

You must be prescient.

I wasn't concerned or even aware of her other works, her philosophy. I thought the book, the novel, was entertaining, as I said. I never thought about it much since then, until recent times when it has come up among American conservatives. I certainly don't have any interest in debating it.

I don't blame you. Your views are assigned by the hate sites. Clearly you have no ability to defend them, nor articulate them.

It isn't of any interest to me at all. You can think it is the Holy Grail if you want; you can verbally abuse me for my opinion on it. I don't care. You see, you totally miss the point. I am not discounting her because of politics. I am discounting her because she is a second rate novelist, a second rate philosopher and a second rate thinker.

You represent ignorance. You are typical of the left. The hate sites tell you to hate, so you do. You have zero grasp of the subject at hand, and no intellectual curiosity. Ergo you spew demagoguery and ignorance.

 

[EriktheRed]

Since the first movie flopped so badly, are they going to make a second still?

Leftists, they're just flat out stupid.

Atlas Shrugged II: The Strike (2012) - IMDb

It's not our fault it bombed so badly we never heard of it.

 

[Esmeralda]

Yes, I read it as a kid. I grew up in a working class home where no one read and no one gave me any guidance on what to read.

Sure you did.

So, I started out reading books that had been made into movies, the the old movies we watched on TV on Saturdays. Her books had been made into movies, and at that time of my life, probably in middle school, I believed that if something had been made into a movie, it was important, so I would read it. I read about ten books a month: I know because that was the limit the library would loan, and I went there once a month because the loan on a book was 30 days. So, every 30 days I went to the library and checked out a stack of books, returning those from the previous trip.

because you knew that someday the party would call on you to trash the vile infidels who dare speak against the glorious programs of our Deal Leader.

You must be prescient.

I wasn't concerned or even aware of her other works, her philosophy. I thought the book, the novel, was entertaining, as I said. I never thought about it much since then, until recent times when it has come up among American conservatives. I certainly don't have any interest in debating it.

I don't blame you. Your views are assigned by the hate sites. Clearly you have no ability to defend them, nor articulate them.

It isn't of any interest to me at all. You can think it is the Holy Grail if you want; you can verbally abuse me for my opinion on it. I don't care. You see, you totally miss the point. I am not discounting her because of politics. I am discounting her because she is a second rate novelist, a second rate philosopher and a second rate thinker.

You represent ignorance. You are typical of the left. The hate sites tell you to hate, so you do. You have zero grasp of the subject at hand, and no intellectual curiosity. Ergo you spew demagoguery and ignorance.

A couple of years ago, when I was involved in the study of epistemology, and I had read something about her philosophy, as it has been brought up, as I said, by Americans lately, I read a basic outline of what her philosophical ideas are. I thought them very superficial. I'm not spewing any hate. I had enough intellectual curiosity to check her out. I think it's quite ironic that you accuse me of demagoguery and ignorance. Quite ironic. I know one thing; in my daily life, I would never waste any time in an attempt to discuss anything on any intellectual level with someone with a mind like yours. It's impossible to get any sense out of someone like you. The hate is yours. The ignorance is yours. The demagoguery is yours. And you are the one who is brainwashed by hate sites. I don't read any hate sites. I don't watch any of the American news programs that discuss political ideas. I get my information from a variety of international news sources and do not watch 'discussion' programs at all. Everything you accuse me of is projection. You are projecting onto me what you yourself are.

"But you just happened to pick up a 2,000 page tome on economic philosophy..." Atlas Shrugged is about 1,000 pages long, and, yes I read that and many others of that length. People like me are the type who end up getting master's degrees in English literature: we are readers, serious readers of literature. (I also read Anna Karenina, War and Peace, Crime and Punishment, and the like...they had all been made into movies, you see, lol.) I read Atlas Shrugged as a novel and enjoyed the 'story,' the plot. That's about it, and that is all I have claimed. And though I have repeated twice now that my opinion of the novel does not have anything to do with politics, you, having only a one track mind, cannot seem to grasp that.