Zone1 Atheists have nothing to say against faith in God

[Cougarbear]

Atheists have nothing to say against faith in God. They believe in things that they can’t explain or prove. Check this out and let’s see atheists squirm:

 

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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches members to treat atheists with kindness, respect, and love, emphasizing Christlike behavior regardless of belief. Members are encouraged to be tolerant, friendly, and to recognize the good in others, while still maintaining their own faith. Key tenets include respecting the free agency of others to choose their own beliefs.

• Christlike Kindness: Members are instructed to show love and kindness to everyone, including those who do not believe in God.
• Tolerance and Respect: LDS leadership advises being "a little more tolerant and friendly to those not of our faith".
• Focus on Commonality: Rather than focusing on differences, members are encouraged to find common ground.
• Listen and Understand: When interacting with those who have different beliefs or have left the faith, members are advised to listen with love and avoid assuming that disbelief stems from sinful behavior.
• Freedom of Conscience: The 11th Article of Faith supports allowing all people to worship—or not worship—according to their own conscience.

While encouraging respect, LDS doctrine still holds that there is a distinction between truth and error, but that respect for the person should remain paramount.

 

[Cougarbear]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches members to treat atheists with kindness, respect, and love, emphasizing Christlike behavior regardless of belief. Members are encouraged to be tolerant, friendly, and to recognize the good in others, while still maintaining their own faith. Key tenets include respecting the free agency of others to choose their own beliefs.

• Christlike Kindness: Members are instructed to show love and kindness to everyone, including those who do not believe in God.
• Tolerance and Respect: LDS leadership advises being "a little more tolerant and friendly to those not of our faith".
• Focus on Commonality: Rather than focusing on differences, members are encouraged to find common ground.
• Listen and Understand: When interacting with those who have different beliefs or have left the faith, members are advised to listen with love and avoid assuming that disbelief stems from sinful behavior.
• Freedom of Conscience: The 11th Article of Faith supports allowing all people to worship—or not worship—according to their own conscience.

While encouraging respect, LDS doctrine still holds that there is a distinction between truth and error, but that respect for the person should remain paramount.

Nice. Now, what about atheists? Are you an atheist? If so, answer the question. Can you continue to attack believers concerning their faith in God?

 

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Nice. Now, what about atheists? Are you an atheist? If so, answer the question. Can you continue to attack believers concerning their faith in God?

So you disagree with your church?

 

[Cougarbear]

So you disagree with your church?

You aren’t my Church and no very little. So, you got caught realizing that atheism is the real cult.

 

[GLASNOST]

Atheists have nothing to say against faith in God.

Should they? Theists have a ton of things to say against other Theists. Particularly Christians. They slander the Jews. They slander the Moslems. They slander the Hindus. They slander the Buddhists. Even among themselves. Catholics and Protestants don’t like each other. Worst of all are the Mormons. They hate and slander everyone. Agnostics slander no one. Agnostics don’t hate anyone. I don’t know if Atheists say anything against faith in God so I’ll take your word for it that they don’t. But that’s a good thing ….. isn’t it?

 

[toobfreak]

You aren’t my Church and no very little. So, you got caught realizing that atheism is the real cult.

More to the point, isn't atheism just one more religion? They believe in the unprovable. They can no more prove their faith in the universe being just an object coming from mere dust as most religious people can prove the existence of God--- both are essentially just different faiths. The main difference being that:

1. Formal religions are generally a faith in a /personal/ universe, headed by some deity, supreme intelligence, and cause of all causes headed by a supreme consciousness and compassion.
2. Atheism is really just another religion, a faith in an /impersonal/ universe, where all comes about by accident and random chance, and random combinations resulting in order.

BOTH recognize the role of consciousness, just that while theists believe our finite consciousness came from a supreme, higher consciousness, atheists believe that our consciousness came from random chance and spontaneous generation.

THE DIFFERENCE being that while theists believe in an absolute moral order with God being the guiding light, atheists believe morality is relative with no one but man himself to set the rules, define the boundaries, and to guide human activity.

 

[GLASNOST]

So you disagree with your church?

 

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You aren’t my Church and no very little. So, you got caught realizing that atheism is the real cult.

Just like not all Mormons seek out conflict, not all atheists behave as if their atheism is a religion. I'm well aware of the threat militant atheism poses. It's not a lot different than the threat from fundamentalists. Both seek to homogenize beliefs and both are zealous in their missions.

 

[Cassandro]

More to the point, isn't atheism just one more religion?

Atheists believe that human beings are the highest form of intelligence in the universe.

 

[Hafar1014]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches members to treat atheists with kindness, respect, and love, emphasizing Christlike behavior regardless of belief. Members are encouraged to be tolerant, friendly, and to recognize the good in others, while still maintaining their own faith. Key tenets include respecting the free agency of others to choose their own beliefs.

• Christlike Kindness: Members are instructed to show love and kindness to everyone, including those who do not believe in God.
• Tolerance and Respect: LDS leadership advises being "a little more tolerant and friendly to those not of our faith".
• Focus on Commonality: Rather than focusing on differences, members are encouraged to find common ground.
• Listen and Understand: When interacting with those who have different beliefs or have left the faith, members are advised to listen with love and avoid assuming that disbelief stems from sinful behavior.
• Freedom of Conscience: The 11th Article of Faith supports allowing all people to worship—or not worship—according to their own conscience.

While encouraging respect, LDS doctrine still holds that there is a distinction between truth and error, but that respect for the person should remain paramount.

Christlike kindness If you dont believe in Jesus youre going to hell
Tolerance and respect see above
Same applies to the last two points see above

 

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Christlike kindness If you dont believe in Jesus youre going to hell
Tolerance and respect see above
Same applies to the last two points see above

Of course that's how you see it. You are anti-Christian.

 

[Hafar1014]

Of course that's how you see it. You are anti-Christian.

No anti hell and threats to compel obedience

 

[ding]

No anti hell and threats to compel obedience

Rant on, anti-Christian. Get your rocks off.

 

[Hafar1014]

More to the point, isn't atheism just one more religion? They believe in the unprovable. They can no more prove their faith in the universe being just an object coming from mere dust as most religious people can prove the existence of God--- both are essentially just different faiths. The main difference being that:

1. Formal religions are generally a faith in a /personal/ universe, headed by some deity, supreme intelligence, and cause of all causes headed by a supreme consciousness and compassion.
2. Atheism is really just another religion, a faith in an /impersonal/ universe, where all comes about by accident and random chance, and random combinations resulting in order.

BOTH recognize the role of consciousness, just that while theists believe our finite consciousness came from a supreme, higher consciousness, atheists believe that our consciousness came from random chance and spontaneous generation.

THE DIFFERENCE being that while theists believe in an absolute moral order with God being the guiding light, atheists believe morality is relative with no one but man himself to set the rules, define the boundaries, and to guide human activity.

I know many atheists who are moral.

 

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I know many atheists who are moral.

That's not surprising given that most Jews are atheists. You're probably one yourself.

 

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I know many atheists who are moral.

A better question is why would atheists believe being moral was important?

 

[rightwinger]

Atheists have nothing to say against faith in God. They believe in things that they can’t explain or prove. Check this out and let’s see atheists squirm:

You have it backwards
We believe in things that can be explained or proven

Faith is not part of that conclusion

 

[Hafar1014]

A better question is why would atheists believe being moral was important?

Morals are learned by social interaction with your immediate family. Anyone who lives in a community needs morals and will develop them god or no god. You can argue morals originally came from a god.

 

[Hafar1014]

You have it backwards
We believe in things that can be explained or proven

Faith is not part of that conclusion

Then prove there is no god. Before toy make fool of your sef by claiming you cant prove a negative we can and do it all the time. We use null hypothesis or a significant negative correlation. Go ahead