At least 3 children and 3 adults killed in Nashville elementary school shooting


The results of the 2nd Amendment in action again
No, the direct consequence of hate filled, murderous fascist democracy! The object of her affections I suspect was not primarily the school, rather "the church!" I will wager that the murderous democrat who did this, is either NOT a biological female, or an angry abortion rights type of psychotic, I could be wrong, but one thing is absolutely certain, this was perpetrated by a fascist democrat kook, as these horrors always are!

Nothing to do with the 2nd, everything to do with the toxic hate stew stirred 24/7/365 by you fascist animals..... :wink:
 

The results of the 2nd Amendment in action again
Wrong.

This is the result of political inaction and no political will in Washington to address the problem, having nothing to do with the Second Amendment.

Assault weapon bans and magazine capacity restrictions are perfectly Constitutional, in no way violating the Second Amendment, having never been invalidated by the Supreme Court.

Congress is at liberty to lawfully enact an AWB, consistent with Second Amendment case law – it simply refuses to do so.
 
No, the direct consequence of hate filled, murderous fascist democracy! The object of her affections I suspect was not primarily the school, rather "the church!" I will wager that the murderous democrat who did this, is either NOT a biological female, or an angry abortion rights type of psychotic, I could be wrong, but one thing is absolutely certain, this was perpetrated by a fascist democrat kook, as these horrors always are!

Nothing to do with the 2nd, everything to do with the toxic hate stew stirred 24/7/365 by you fascist animals..... :wink:

Noted for the irony.
 
Noted for the irony.
You evil fucks daring to point finger isn't irony asshole, its your naked hypocrisy, you are hate filled refuse, you animals dispense a toxic stew of fascist democrat hate/rage 24/7/365, and I absolutely assure you that the killer is one of you, one of you who received that message and then acted upon that message!

You despicable lowlife, you dare, its always the same thing every fucking time, you fuckers shoot your fucking mouths off before the little boys and girls bodies are even cold, and always its one of you, so shove you fucking irony right up your solidly stretched out rectum! And shove your little laughing emoji right up that rectum while you are at it, laughing emojis so perfectly illustrates exactly who and what the fuck you are, sociopaths! :fu:
 
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AWB?

Hilarious.

in the last 10 years, less than 500 people have been killed in Mass Shootings by AR-15s and clones.

The total number is actually less than 300.

BUt, they look scary, so 'ban' them.

 

The results of the 2nd Amendment in action again


No...the results of the democrat party pushing transgenderism and not mental health......it was a woman pretending to be a man.

Now....explain to the class how it is that Europe, after registering guns, then confiscating and banning them murdered 15 million innocent men, women and children in just 6 years, between 1939-1945........not war dead...innocent people rounded up by their European governments in gun controlled countries....then marched into forests and death camps and murdered.....

The number of gun murders, including from mass public shootings in the entire 246 year history of the United States....

About 2,460,000

Can you tell which number is bigger?
 
Wrong.

This is the result of political inaction and no political will in Washington to address the problem, having nothing to do with the Second Amendment.

Assault weapon bans and magazine capacity restrictions are perfectly Constitutional, in no way violating the Second Amendment, having never been invalidated by the Supreme Court.

Congress is at liberty to lawfully enact an AWB, consistent with Second Amendment case law – it simply refuses to do so.


And neither would have done anything to lower the death toll....

Rifles used here....6 killed.

Pump action, 5 shot shotgun in Kerch, Russia, Polytechnik shooting? Not a rifle, no magazine used...

20 killed, 70 injured....

You don't know what you are talking about.
 
AWB?

Hilarious.

in the last 10 years, less than 500 people have been killed in Mass Shootings by AR-15s and clones.

The total number is actually less than 300.

BUt, they look scary, so 'ban' them.



Knives and clubs murder more people every single year than AR-15s...........and all rifle types.....yet they don't call for banning them.....
 
Three children and three adults were killed .
Was this coincidence or a hidden message ?
Is this a hint that the killer studied Nicola Tesla and was obsessed with the number three ?
Should we be removing the number three from the school curriculum
and advising the Church of the dangers inherent in the doctrine of the Trinity.
All very worrying.

 
Apparently, we need to ban side doors.





A Fox News segment went viral on Monday after a guest on the conservative network pointed out a pattern in school shootings.

Her concern wasn’t the common denominator in all shootings ― access to guns ― but rather unlocked doors.
“That seems to be a common pattern in many of these shootings, a side door. If we can lock the side doors and make sure that the schools are secure, hopefully we can avoid these tragedies going forward,” former FBI agent Nicole Parker said as she discussed a shooting Monday at The Covenant School in Nashville that left three children and three adults dead.

Throughout her commentary, Parker made no mention of the firearms the shooter wielded. According to police, 28-year-old Audrey Hale was carrying a rifle, an assault rifle-style pistol and a handgun when she was killed by officers at the scene.

What’s more, Hale apparently entered the school through a locked side door by shooting through it, according to Metro Nashville Police Chief John Drake.
 
Apparently, we need to ban side doors.





A Fox News segment went viral on Monday after a guest on the conservative network pointed out a pattern in school shootings.

Her concern wasn’t the common denominator in all shootings ― access to guns ― but rather unlocked doors.
“That seems to be a common pattern in many of these shootings, a side door. If we can lock the side doors and make sure that the schools are secure, hopefully we can avoid these tragedies going forward,” former FBI agent Nicole Parker said as she discussed a shooting Monday at The Covenant School in Nashville that left three children and three adults dead.

Throughout her commentary, Parker made no mention of the firearms the shooter wielded. According to police, 28-year-old Audrey Hale was carrying a rifle, an assault rifle-style pistol and a handgun when she was killed by officers at the scene.

What’s more, Hale apparently entered the school through a locked side door by shooting through it, according to Metro Nashville Police Chief John Drake.



And that is why you need either police resource officers on the campus, or some of the staff trained to use guns............if there is a chance the shooter expects someone to be there with a gun, they tend to avoid attacking those places...gun free zones encourage these attackers.......as we know from the statements and writings of these attackers....
 
And that is why you need either police resource officers on the campus, or some of the staff trained to use guns
Then, when the police do show up, they have to make a split second decision, on friend or foe.
I have a feeling a lot of 'friends" would be shot.
............if there is a chance the shooter expects someone to be there with a gun, they tend to avoid attacking those places...gun free zones encourage these attackers.......as we know from the statements and writings of these attackers....
IDK but every public school in my county has a sheriff's deputy, in uniform, all year long.
They live in a manufactured home on campus, they still find students with guns.
 
Then, when the police do show up, they have to make a split second decision, on friend or foe.
I have a feeling a lot of 'friends" would be shot.

IDK but every public school in my county has a sheriff's deputy, in uniform, all year long.
They live in a manufactured home on campus, they still find students with guns.


No........actual, real world experience shows you are wrong....

Notice that in these real world events...the police didn't mistake the good guy for the bad guys........

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

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One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.
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Within 15 seconds of a gunman opening fire inside a mall in Greenwood, Indiana, Elisjsha Dicken was able to step in and prevent further deaths.





https://fox59.com/news/national-wor...ped-indiana-mall-shooter-in-15-seconds/======



West Virginia woman....



Witnesses said Butler seemed agitated and left but returned to the complex shortly after, armed with an AR-15 style rifle, and started shooting at the crowd.

Police said a woman pulled out her pistol, shooting and killing him.

"This lady was carrying a lawful firearm," Hazelett said. "A law abiding citizen who stopped the threat of probably 20 or 30 people getting killed. She engaged the threat and stopped it. She didn't run from the threat, she engaged it. Preventing a mass casualty event here in Charleston."






Woman credited with stopping mass shooting at apartment complex in West Virginia

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As Hunt and other partiers had a bite to eat in the kitchen, the suspect pulled out a gun and began firing on the crowd, sending everyone fleeing, Mendez recounted.



Mendez was shot in the head in front of his wife, who rushed to his side and believed he was dead due to the amount of blood covering his face. She then grabbed their two daughters and put them into a room deeper in the house, barricading them and other children inside.



"She barricaded the door with the dresser. There were three other children in there, not including my two daughters. A total of five kids. She … throws them in the closet, throws clothes over them. Tells them, ‘Be quiet. Do not make a peep if you hear loud noises in this room,’" Mendez said of his wife's actions.



As Hunt continued his alleged rampage, two other women began fighting back against the suspect and screamed for Mendez, knowing he had a concealed carry weapon, Mendez said.



"By the glory of God or the adrenaline and just everything, just the will to live and the will to protect my family, I was able to hear those pleas, those yells for help. I heard my name. And I was able to get up," he said.



He was able to pull out his firearm and shoot the suspect four times in the chest.



"Detectives have determined the individual who shot Jason, and others who fought against Jason, were acting in self-defense and defense of other innocent parties," Sgt. Tommy Hale said in a press release days after the incident, KTAR reported at the time.



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Shotgun attacker at Church service....



Wilson’s single shot quickly ended the attack that killed Wallace, 64, and White, 67, at the West Freeway Church of Christ in the Fort Worth-area town of White Settlement. He said the entire confrontation was over in no more than six seconds. More than 240 congregants were in the church at the time.



Firearms instructor took out gunman at Texas church service

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Southerland Springs Church shooting .....



Willeford propped his AR-15 on the pickup’s hood and peered through the sight. He could see a holographic red dot on the man’s chest. He fired twice. He wasn’t sure he’d hit him, though he was later told that the man had contusions on his chest and abdomen consistent with getting shot while wearing body armor. Regardless, the gunman stopped shooting and ran for a white Ford Explorer that was idling outside the chapel, roughly twenty yards from where Willeford had positioned himself.



The Hero of Sutherland Springs Is Still Reckoning with What Happened that Day



Deputies: Osceola pastor shot church janitor in self-defense

According to deputies, Parangan pulled out a handgun and fired multiple shots at Pastor Terry Howell, who took out his own weapon and fired back, striking Parangan.

Howell was not injured, but Parangan was taken to Osceola Regional Medical Center in critical condition.

Deputies said several church employees witnessed the incident and gave similar statements.

this Psychiatrist was not an off duty cop.....

Penn. psychiatric center shooting intended mass killing: DA

The Pennsylvania patient accused of killing his caseworker in a psychiatric center shooting carried dozens of bullets — and he would have likely continued shooting if a doctor didn’t fire back, officials said.

Richard Plotts, 49, is expected to be charged with murder for allegedly opening fire at Sister Marie Lenahan Wellness Center in Darby Thursday.

After he killed his caseworker, 53-year-old Theresa Hunt, and shot his psychiatrist, Lee Silverman, the wounded doctor fired back, stopping the attack, District Attorney Jack Whelan said in a Friday press conference.

Plotts had 39 more bullets on him. He intended a mass shooting, Whelan said.

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This past Sunday, exactly two weeks to the day after the Pulse attack, there was a mass shooting outside a night club in South Carolina. I’m sure you haven’t heard about it, and for two good reasons. The first reason is that the attempted murderer was unsuccessful in killing any of his victims. The second reason is because the attempted murderer was stopped by a concealed carrier at the club drawing his weapon and putting a bullet into the bad guy.


Lyman man charged following shooting at nightclub
 
No........actual, real world experience shows you are wrong....

Notice that in these real world events...the police didn't mistake the good guy for the bad guys........

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

=====

One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.
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Within 15 seconds of a gunman opening fire inside a mall in Greenwood, Indiana, Elisjsha Dicken was able to step in and prevent further deaths.





https://fox59.com/news/national-wor...ped-indiana-mall-shooter-in-15-seconds/======



West Virginia woman....



Witnesses said Butler seemed agitated and left but returned to the complex shortly after, armed with an AR-15 style rifle, and started shooting at the crowd.

Police said a woman pulled out her pistol, shooting and killing him.

"This lady was carrying a lawful firearm," Hazelett said. "A law abiding citizen who stopped the threat of probably 20 or 30 people getting killed. She engaged the threat and stopped it. She didn't run from the threat, she engaged it. Preventing a mass casualty event here in Charleston."






Woman credited with stopping mass shooting at apartment complex in West Virginia

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As Hunt and other partiers had a bite to eat in the kitchen, the suspect pulled out a gun and began firing on the crowd, sending everyone fleeing, Mendez recounted.



Mendez was shot in the head in front of his wife, who rushed to his side and believed he was dead due to the amount of blood covering his face. She then grabbed their two daughters and put them into a room deeper in the house, barricading them and other children inside.



"She barricaded the door with the dresser. There were three other children in there, not including my two daughters. A total of five kids. She … throws them in the closet, throws clothes over them. Tells them, ‘Be quiet. Do not make a peep if you hear loud noises in this room,’" Mendez said of his wife's actions.



As Hunt continued his alleged rampage, two other women began fighting back against the suspect and screamed for Mendez, knowing he had a concealed carry weapon, Mendez said.



"By the glory of God or the adrenaline and just everything, just the will to live and the will to protect my family, I was able to hear those pleas, those yells for help. I heard my name. And I was able to get up," he said.



He was able to pull out his firearm and shoot the suspect four times in the chest.



"Detectives have determined the individual who shot Jason, and others who fought against Jason, were acting in self-defense and defense of other innocent parties," Sgt. Tommy Hale said in a press release days after the incident, KTAR reported at the time.



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Shotgun attacker at Church service....



Wilson’s single shot quickly ended the attack that killed Wallace, 64, and White, 67, at the West Freeway Church of Christ in the Fort Worth-area town of White Settlement. He said the entire confrontation was over in no more than six seconds. More than 240 congregants were in the church at the time.



Firearms instructor took out gunman at Texas church service

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Southerland Springs Church shooting .....



Willeford propped his AR-15 on the pickup’s hood and peered through the sight. He could see a holographic red dot on the man’s chest. He fired twice. He wasn’t sure he’d hit him, though he was later told that the man had contusions on his chest and abdomen consistent with getting shot while wearing body armor. Regardless, the gunman stopped shooting and ran for a white Ford Explorer that was idling outside the chapel, roughly twenty yards from where Willeford had positioned himself.



The Hero of Sutherland Springs Is Still Reckoning with What Happened that Day



Deputies: Osceola pastor shot church janitor in self-defense

According to deputies, Parangan pulled out a handgun and fired multiple shots at Pastor Terry Howell, who took out his own weapon and fired back, striking Parangan.

Howell was not injured, but Parangan was taken to Osceola Regional Medical Center in critical condition.

Deputies said several church employees witnessed the incident and gave similar statements.

this Psychiatrist was not an off duty cop.....

Penn. psychiatric center shooting intended mass killing: DA

The Pennsylvania patient accused of killing his caseworker in a psychiatric center shooting carried dozens of bullets — and he would have likely continued shooting if a doctor didn’t fire back, officials said.

Richard Plotts, 49, is expected to be charged with murder for allegedly opening fire at Sister Marie Lenahan Wellness Center in Darby Thursday.

After he killed his caseworker, 53-year-old Theresa Hunt, and shot his psychiatrist, Lee Silverman, the wounded doctor fired back, stopping the attack, District Attorney Jack Whelan said in a Friday press conference.

Plotts had 39 more bullets on him. He intended a mass shooting, Whelan said.

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This past Sunday, exactly two weeks to the day after the Pulse attack, there was a mass shooting outside a night club in South Carolina. I’m sure you haven’t heard about it, and for two good reasons. The first reason is that the attempted murderer was unsuccessful in killing any of his victims. The second reason is because the attempted murderer was stopped by a concealed carrier at the club drawing his weapon and putting a bullet into the bad guy.


Lyman man charged following shooting at nightclub

From September 18, 2018?

From Concealedcarry?

LOL.
 

Metropolitan Nashville Police Department Newsroom​

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Nashville.gov
https://www.nashville.gov › departments › police › news




Official website of the Metropolitan Government of Nashville and Davidson County.


The first call to 911 about shots being fired in the building came in at 10:13 a.m. Officers rushed to the campus, made entry and began clearing the building. Shots were heard coming from the second level. It was on the second floor, in a common area, that a team of officers encountered Hale shooting (she had been firing through a window at arriving police cars). Two members of an officer team fired on Hale and fatally wounded her. Those two officers are Officer Rex Engelbert, a four-year MNPD veteran, and Officer Michael Collazo, a nine-year MNPD veteran.

Writings recovered from Hale revealed that her attack was calculated and planned.

A search warrant executed at Hale’s Brightwood Avenue home resulted in the seizure of a sawed-off shotgun, a second shotgun, and other evidence.
 

Metropolitan Nashville Police Department Newsroom

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Nashville.gov
https://www.nashville.gov › departments › police › news



Official website of the Metropolitan Government of Nashville and Davidson County.


The first call to 911 about shots being fired in the building came in at 10:13 a.m. Officers rushed to the campus, made entry and began clearing the building. Shots were heard coming from the second level. It was on the second floor, in a common area, that a team of officers encountered Hale shooting (she had been firing through a window at arriving police cars). Two members of an officer team fired on Hale and fatally wounded her. Those two officers are Officer Rex Engelbert, a four-year MNPD veteran, and Officer Michael Collazo, a nine-year MNPD veteran.

Writings recovered from Hale revealed that her attack was calculated and planned.

A search warrant executed at Hale’s Brightwood Avenue home resulted in the seizure of a sawed-off shotgun, a second shotgun, and other evidence.


Yes....she chose that school because it had less security.......a gun free zone....

Police said the suspect’s writings revealed she planned to hit another location but was deterred by “too much security.”




 
Yes....she chose that school because it had less security.......a gun free zone....

Police said the suspect’s writings revealed she planned to hit another location but was deterred by “too much security.”




Wasn't a SHE, it claimed to be.

Police said the suspect’s writings revealed she planned to hit another location but was deterred by “too much security.”

Where?
 

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