Astonishing stupidity

[Hossfly]

Dreyfus is comical There was a fullfleged war going on between two groups group X and Group Y that had been odd with each other----more or less ---for 1400 years One of the groups demanded complete subjugation-GROUP X of the other Group Y and had----in the course of history GROUP X comitted several genocides upon GROUP Y In the course of the battle which was openly stated to be a WAR OF ANNHILATION by GROUP X upon GROUP Y some of the members of Group Y were heard to say "LETS GET RID OF THEM" (group y referring to group X) From this scenario we can only conclude that group Y is endlessly evil and group X is comprised of Saints

thanks Dufus----we appreciate your input

Sorry, Irosie. I stepped on your post but Dufus will get it now.

 

[DreyfussRan]

In other words, as far as you know, there is no evidence that Israel had a plan to expel the Arabs.

Oh indeed...all we have at our disposal is the record of public statements from early Zionist leaders like Hiam Weitzman and David Ben Gurion...the eyewitness acounts of Israelis who were there such as Mosche Dayan, the documented tactics of the Zionist forces that perfectly conformed to the stated design to expell the native population, and the obvious conclusion that this is indeed what took place...it takes genuine dedication to miss the body of evidence---especially when so much of it is corroborated by the Israelis themselves...I suppose what I find most disorienting is the serene bearing of your ignorance, but then again the facts don't really offer much to Zionists...do they?

Again, you are acknowledging that despite your desperate wish to believe there was such a plan, you know of no evidence that any plan existed to expel the Arabs during Israel's War of Independence.

apparently the entire 20th century has passed you over completely...the preferred strategy of Zionists is to claim that the expusions were ordered by Arab leaders...you have taken this central pillar of Jewish propaganda in a remarkable new direction...I say remarkable simply due to the imponderable level of stupidity demanded to make such a claim...BTW: "a War of Independence" presupposes a condition of dependency...now try to adjust that tiny, absolutist brain to appreciate this next part: since there existed no "dependent" Israel, the possibility of an war of "independence" is self-contradicting...you behave as if stupidity were social virtue...sigh

 

[toomuchtime_]

Oh indeed...all we have at our disposal is the record of public statements from early Zionist leaders like Hiam Weitzman and David Ben Gurion...the eyewitness acounts of Israelis who were there such as Mosche Dayan, the documented tactics of the Zionist forces that perfectly conformed to the stated design to expell the native population, and the obvious conclusion that this is indeed what took place...it takes genuine dedication to miss the body of evidence---especially when so much of it is corroborated by the Israelis themselves...I suppose what I find most disorienting is the serene bearing of your ignorance, but then again the facts don't really offer much to Zionists...do they?

Again, you are acknowledging that despite your desperate wish to believe there was such a plan, you know of no evidence that any plan existed to expel the Arabs during Israel's War of Independence.

apparently the entire 20th century has passed you over completely...the preferred strategy of Zionists is to claim that the expusions were ordered by Arab leaders...you have taken this central pillar of Jewish propaganda in a remarkable new direction...I say remarkable simply due to the imponderable level of stupidity demanded to make such a claim...BTW: "a War of Independence" presupposes a condition of dependency...now try to adjust that tiny, absolutist brain to appreciate this next part: since there existed no "dependent" Israel, the possibility of an war of "independence" is self-contradicting...you behave as if stupidity were social virtue...sigh

Yet again, you acknowledge you know of no evidence that Israel had a plan to expel the Arabs during its War of Independence although you fervently wish you had.

 

[irosie91]

Dufus waxes idiotic in his pathetic ignorance At the time of the 1948 israeli war of INDEPENDENCE from the BRITISH EMPIRE ----the nascent ISRAEL was in possession of all of the underpinning of a COUNTRY but was still part of a foreign "EMPIRE" -----so it rebelled and seceded In fact its action and status at the time of the action was no much different from the WAR OF INDEPENDENCE of the 13 colonies in north america 1776----or of India from the empire 1948

the 13 colonies, India, and Israel----were not particularly DEPENDENT on London

 

[P F Tinmore]

toomuchtime:

More bullshit. The fact remains that there no evidence there was ever a plan by the Jewish leadership to expel the Arabs.
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By all indication there are no sets of documentation, no historical considerations, no factual allowances or barriers recognized by the Zionist revisionists who propose to occupy living hsitory with the same brazen determination with which they occupy tenured Arab land...the blunt sense historical idiocy coupled with the lockstep cult fanaticism of Zionism is perfectly captured in the above quote: the hapless poster ( toomuchtime ) simply states as casual fact that 'there is no evidence of an expulsion plan by Jewish leaders"...it takes several moments of disbelief for the full force of this idiocy to penetrate, but this is the couter-academic attitude cultivated and deceminated among those who absently assimilate Zionist revisionist-dogma. A fundamental component of early Zionist paradigms was the expulsion of the native population, and the demographic influx of European Jews...it is beyond unthinkable that anyone even nominally familiar with the surface history of this event could pronounce such fatuous ignorance, and then propose to defend it...but this is the element for whom all the interlacing complexities of hsitory and politics demand the most sinister of simplifications and adjustments to their set agenda.

In other words, as far as you know, there is no evidence that Israel had a plan to expel the Arabs.

Over 400 Palestinian villages were cleansed and destroyed.

But there was no plan to do that.

 

[SAYIT]

toomuchtime:

More bullshit. The fact remains that there no evidence there was ever a plan by the Jewish leadership to expel the Arabs.
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By all indication there are no sets of documentation, no historical considerations, no factual allowances or barriers recognized by the Zionist revisionists who propose to occupy living hsitory with the same brazen determination with which they occupy tenured Arab land...the blunt sense historical idiocy coupled with the lockstep cult fanaticism of Zionism is perfectly captured in the above quote: the hapless poster ( toomuchtime ) simply states as casual fact that 'there is no evidence of an expulsion plan by Jewish leaders"...it takes several moments of disbelief for the full force of this idiocy to penetrate, but this is the couter-academic attitude cultivated and deceminated among those who absently assimilate Zionist revisionist-dogma. A fundamental component of early Zionist paradigms was the expulsion of the native population, and the demographic influx of European Jews...it is beyond unthinkable that anyone even nominally familiar with the surface history of this event could pronounce such fatuous ignorance, and then propose to defend it...but this is the element for whom all the interlacing complexities of hsitory and politics demand the most sinister of simplifications and adjustments to their set agenda.

In other words, as far as you know, there is no evidence that Israel had a plan to expel the Arabs.

Over 400 Palestinian villages were cleansed and destroyed.

According to who? You?

 

[P F Tinmore]

In other words, as far as you know, there is no evidence that Israel had a plan to expel the Arabs.

Over 400 Palestinian villages were cleansed and destroyed.

According to who? You?

There were about 750,000 refugees.

They had to come from someplace.

 

[toomuchtime_]

toomuchtime:

More bullshit. The fact remains that there no evidence there was ever a plan by the Jewish leadership to expel the Arabs.
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By all indication there are no sets of documentation, no historical considerations, no factual allowances or barriers recognized by the Zionist revisionists who propose to occupy living hsitory with the same brazen determination with which they occupy tenured Arab land...the blunt sense historical idiocy coupled with the lockstep cult fanaticism of Zionism is perfectly captured in the above quote: the hapless poster ( toomuchtime ) simply states as casual fact that 'there is no evidence of an expulsion plan by Jewish leaders"...it takes several moments of disbelief for the full force of this idiocy to penetrate, but this is the couter-academic attitude cultivated and deceminated among those who absently assimilate Zionist revisionist-dogma. A fundamental component of early Zionist paradigms was the expulsion of the native population, and the demographic influx of European Jews...it is beyond unthinkable that anyone even nominally familiar with the surface history of this event could pronounce such fatuous ignorance, and then propose to defend it...but this is the element for whom all the interlacing complexities of hsitory and politics demand the most sinister of simplifications and adjustments to their set agenda.

In other words, as far as you know, there is no evidence that Israel had a plan to expel the Arabs.

Over 400 Palestinian villages were cleansed and destroyed.

But there was no plan to do that.

Many Arabs left but there is no evidence that the Israeli leadership had any plan to expel them. These are the facts.

 

[P F Tinmore]

In other words, as far as you know, there is no evidence that Israel had a plan to expel the Arabs.

Over 400 Palestinian villages were cleansed and destroyed.

But there was no plan to do that.

Many Arabs left but there is no evidence that the Israeli leadership had any plan to expel them. These are the facts.

Of course you would not notice that you make no sense.

 

[SAYIT]

Over 400 Palestinian villages were cleansed and destroyed.

According to who? You?

There were about 750,000 refugees.

They had to come from someplace.

That's your proof that 400 "Palestinian" villages were cleansed and destroyed? They had to come from somewhere?
Fine. They came from Egypt, Syria, Transjordan...
The "refugees" were only required to prove they were residents of the region between 1946 and 1948 and I doubt the proof had to be anything more than their word of honor.
Three hots and a cot! Woohoo! Sign us up!

 

[SAYIT]

Over 400 Palestinian villages were cleansed and destroyed.

But there was no plan to do that.

Many Arabs left but there is no evidence that the Israeli leadership had any plan to expel them. These are the facts.

Of course you would not notice that you make no sense.

C'mon, TinHorn. Do you really expect anyone to take your word for anything?
You got your education at ElectronicIntifada which qualifies you to do absolutely nothing.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Many Arabs left but there is no evidence that the Israeli leadership had any plan to expel them. These are the facts.

Of course you would not notice that you make no sense.

C'mon, TinHorn. Do you really expect anyone to take your word for anything?
You got your education at ElectronicIntifada which qualifies you to do absolutely nothing.

Those refugees were around long before Electronic Intifada.

You are just shoveling crap.

 

[irosie91]

more arabs stayed in Israel than jews stayed in arab countries during the era in question Arabs who fled were not divested of the last bits of their personal valuables----as they ran------no BAKSHEESH was demanded of them on the highway as they slowly made their way with the stuff on the donkey's back (I am acquainted with witnesses who lived near arab encampments----when the sorrounding arab armies started descending-----arabs in the area packed up during the night and------marched off No one actually paid much attention because the country was under attack----the islamo nazi propaganda "death march" scenarios never happened)

 

[P F Tinmore]

more arabs stayed in Israel than jews stayed in arab countries during the era in question Arabs who fled were not divested of the last bits of their personal valuables----as they ran------no BAKSHEESH was demanded of them on the highway as they slowly made their way with the stuff on the donkey's back (I am acquainted with witnesses who lived near arab encampments----when the sorrounding arab armies started descending-----arabs in the area packed up during the night and------marched off No one actually paid much attention because the country was under attack----the islamo nazi propaganda "death march" scenarios never happened)

----when the sorrounding arab armies started descending-----arabs in the area packed up during the night and------

There were over 300,000 Palestinian refugees before any Arab country stepped foot into Palestine.

Your propaganda is Swiss Cheese.

 

[P F Tinmore]

According to who? You?

There were about 750,000 refugees.

They had to come from someplace.

That's your proof that 400 "Palestinian" villages were cleansed and destroyed? They had to come from somewhere?
Fine. They came from Egypt, Syria, Transjordan...
The "refugees" were only required to prove they were residents of the region between 1946 and 1948 and I doubt the proof had to be anything more than their word of honor.
Three hots and a cot! Woohoo! Sign us up!

Najd was already a farm village of 300 people in the 1500s. Its population grew to about 700 by 1948 when its inhabitants were driven into Gaza by the Negev Brigade. This was before any Arab countries entered Palestine.

 

[SAYIT]

Of course you would not notice that you make no sense.

C'mon, TinHorn. Do you really expect anyone to take your word for anything?
You got your education at ElectronicIntifada which qualifies you to be absolutely nothing.

Those refugees were around long before Electronic Intifada.

Proving what?
That ElectronicIntifada camel crap you unceremoniously dump here certainly wasn't around before EI.
It's the work of imaginative minds.

 

[SAYIT]

more arabs stayed in Israel than jews stayed in arab countries during the era in question Arabs who fled were not divested of the last bits of their personal valuables----as they ran------no BAKSHEESH was demanded of them on the highway as they slowly made their way with the stuff on the donkey's back (I am acquainted with witnesses who lived near arab encampments----when the sorrounding arab armies started descending-----arabs in the area packed up during the night and------marched off No one actually paid much attention because the country was under attack----the islamo nazi propaganda "death march" scenarios never happened)

----when the sorrounding arab armies started descending-----arabs in the area packed up during the night and------

There were over 300,000 Palestinian refugees before any Arab country stepped foot into Palestine.
Your propaganda is Swiss Cheese.

Yours propaganda is camel crap. Is it asking too much to ask that you include credible links with your absurd claims?

 

[P F Tinmore]

C'mon, TinHorn. Do you really expect anyone to take your word for anything?
You got your education at ElectronicIntifada which qualifies you to be absolutely nothing.

Those refugees were around long before Electronic Intifada.

Proving what?
That ElectronicIntifada camel crap you unceremoniously dump here certainly wasn't around before EI.
It's the work of imaginative minds.

And this is relevant to what?

If you want to refute what I say, go for it.

 

[SAYIT]

There were about 750,000 refugees.

They had to come from someplace.

That's your proof that 400 "Palestinian" villages were cleansed and destroyed? They had to come from somewhere?
Fine. They came from Egypt, Syria, Transjordan...
The "refugees" were only required to prove they were residents of the region between 1946 and 1948 and I doubt the proof had to be anything more than their word of honor.
Three hots and a cot! Woohoo! Sign us up!

Najd was already a farm village of 300 people in the 1500s. Its population grew to about 700 by 1948 when its inhabitants were driven into Gaza by the Negev Brigade. This was before any Arab countries entered Palestine.

Oh ... so that's your proof that 400 "Palestininan" villages were cleansed and destroyed?
Now you post a new unsubtantiated "fact."
Do you have anything but your word that any of the things you claim are true?
Anything?
Do have anything which counters my claim that only 2 years of regional residency was required to become a "refugee?"
Anything?

 

[SAYIT]

Those refugees were around long before Electronic Intifada.

Proving what?
That ElectronicIntifada camel crap you unceremoniously dump here certainly wasn't around before EI.
It's the work of imaginative minds.

And this is relevant to what?

If you want to refute what I say, go for it.

You've got this all wrong, Princess. You've already proven that your "facts" are nothing more than the "work" of an imaginative mind - in other words fiction = by failing to post credible links which support your ridiculous claims.
All you have are your words. Big deal.