Arrest these people

[Mac-7]

Um...retard?

These patriots are asking our military to ignore unlawful orders.

As a retired vet, I well remember the extensive training we received about unlawful orders.

Idiot.

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This is very bad advice

Will the morons in the video go to prison or lose their pensions in the service member’s place if a courts martial finds them guilty of disobeying lawful orders after the fact?

Of course not

 

[SeaMajor7]

Subpoena all of these TDS morons to explain themselves to Congress on the Record.

 

[g5000]

This is very bad advice

Will the morons in the video go to prison or lose their pensions in the service member’s place if a courts martial finds them guilty of disobeying lawful orders after the fact?

Of course not

The worst that would happen to a military member who disobeys what they feel is an unlawful order is an Article 92 under the UCMJ if they turn out to be wrong.

No prison. No loss of pension.

Stop talking bullshit about which you know nothing.

 

[Care4all]

But you have to prove it was illegal....

fyi

They have constitutional, military legal expert lawyers, as advisors....they do not make these decisions alone, or without legal advise.

There is nothing Trump has ordered that is unconstitutional.

Then there will be no defiance by the Military....but if there is something unlawful or unconstitutional, the Military must resist the order.

 

[Rawley]

OK, do a search.

The diary.......yup, it might me true.

Why are you denying the 30+ claims against trump?
Many which have been settled in COURT, $$$$$$ versus a Conviction.
These ^^^^^^ might be true.

Such a LONG History of abuse by trump, yet you BELIEVE each to be a LIE.


Weird huh.

Take your TDS bullshit to one of the 150,000 TDS threads.

 

[martybegan]

The worst that would happen to a military member who disobeys what they feel is an unlawful order is an Article 92 under the UCMJ if they turn out to be wrong.

No prison. No loss of pension.

Stop talking bullshit about which you know nothing.

Wrong. They get a Court Martial, and that Court Martial can order Prison, dishonorable Discharge, or anything else it wants to depending on what disobeying the order results in.

read the law, it's as a "Court Martial may direct"

 

[Mac1958]

AI OVERVIEW

Yes, the military can and sometimes must disobey an unlawful order, particularly one that is "manifestly illegal"
. While service members have a duty to follow lawful orders, this duty does not extend to orders that violate the Constitution, U.S. law, or international law, and following such orders can lead to personal criminal liability.

Key points on disobeying unlawful orders

• Duty to refuse: Service members have a duty to refuse orders that are clearly illegal, such as those directing a war crime or violating human rights.
• Oath to the Constitution: The oath to support and defend the Constitution, which includes U.S. laws and ratified international treaties, is the primary commitment.
• Personal liability: A service member who obeys an unlawful order can face criminal liability under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).
• "Just following orders" is not a defense: The defense of "just following orders" has been rejected by both domestic and international courts for war crimes.
• What constitutes an unlawful order: An order is considered unlawful if it is contrary to the Constitution, U.S. law, or international law. Examples include orders to target civilians or use prohibited interrogation techniques like waterboarding.
• Difficult judgment: In fast-moving situations, determining the lawfulness of an order can be difficult. Service members are trained to try and clarify questionable orders and may face consequences for disobeying even if the order is later ruled unlawful.
• Reporting channels: There are channels for service members to report concerns about unlawful orders, such as the DoD Inspector General (IG) Hotline, the Judge Advocate General (JAG) office, or their chain of command.

 

[Delldude]

They have constitutional, military legal expert lawyers, as advisors....they do not make these decisions alone, or without legal advise.

They decide on the spot then are charged and seek legal counsel.

'Soldier I'm ordering you'

'Wait I need to call my attorney to determine if this is a lawful order '

 

[SweetSue92]

Sounds rather insurrectiony. Send em to the gulag, they aren't fit to serve

As many of you know, I live in MI and am deeply embarrassed by Elissa Slotkin and Gretchen Whitmer and so many others....

 

[westwall]

fyi

They have constitutional, military legal expert lawyers, as advisors....they do not make these decisions alone, or without legal advise.

Then there will be no defiance by the Military....but if there is something unlawful or unconstitutional, the Military must resist the order.

Of course. As they always should. Biden broke the law when he ordered service people fired who refused the jab.

Funny how you remained silent then...

 

[Mac-7]

The worst that would happen to a military member who disobeys what they feel is an unlawful order is an Article 92 under the UCMJ if they turn out to be wrong.

No prison. No loss of pension.

Stop talking bullshit about which you know nothing.

Dont bet the rent money on that

Even if you are a democrat senator and its some poor GI who is in trouble

Disobeying a lawful order can be a serious offense

 

[g5000]

Wrong. They get a Court Martial, and that Court Martial can order Prison, dishonorable Discharge, or anything else it wants to depending on what disobeying the order results in.

read the law, it's as a "Court Martial may direct"

Every article of the UCMJ has that phrase in it. That is there if the convicted party wishes to appeal the punishment meted out by their commanding officer for the offense. It's a catch-all.

The punishment for an Article 92 offense, as with the vast majority of UCMJ offenses, is determined by the Commanding Officer at an Article 15 (Army) or Captain's Mast (Navy). The punishment usually results in up to a loss of rank and/or loss of pay.

If the guilty party feels they are innocent, they can then ask for a court-martial.

A court-martial does not automatically mean a prison sentence or loss of pension.

As I said, I am a retired vet. I know more than the dumbasses in this topic who think it is a crime to remind soldiers they are allowed to disobey an unlawful order.

It simply isn't a crime, any more than telling someone they dont have to vote for Trump. Though I'm sure many Trumptards wish it was.

 

[Lockback]

What does that have to do with Biden sexually abusing his own daughter? Trump is doing what he said he would do. His first 9 months has been incredible, if it wasn't. You loons wouldn't be freaking out about it.

 

[Mac-7]

Every article of the UCMJ has that phrase in it. That is there if the convicted party wishes to appeal the punishment meted out by their commanding officer for the offense. It's a catch-all.

The punishment for an Article 92 offense, as with the vast majority of UCMJ offenses, is determined by the Commanding Officer at an Article 15 (Army) or Captain's Mast (Navy). The punishment usually results in up to a loss of rank and/or loss of pay.

If the guilty party feels they are innocent, they can then ask for a court-martial.

A court-martial does not automatically mean a prison sentence or loss of pension.

As I said, I am a retired vet. I know more than the dumbasses in this topic who think it is a crime to remind soldiers they are allowed to disobey an unlawful order.

It simply isn't a crime, any more than telling someone they dont have to vote for Trump. Though I'm sure many Trumptards wish it was.

The maximum punishment for disobeying a lawful order is much more severe for the GI than it is for a democrat senator who gives service members bad advice

what is the maximum punishment for disobeying s lawful order in the us military at DuckDuckGo

 

[martybegan]

Every article of the UCMJ has that phrase in it. That is there if the convicted party wishes to appeal the punishment meted out by their commanding officer for the offense. It's a catch-all.

The punishment for an Article 92 offense, as with the vast majority of UCMJ offenses, is determined by the Commanding Officer at an Article 15 (Army) or Captain's Mast (Navy). The punishment usually results in up to a loss of rank and/or loss of pay.

If the guilty party feels they are innocent, they can then ask for a court-martial.

A court-martial does not automatically mean a prison sentence or loss of pension.

As I said, I am a retired vet. I know more than the dumbasses in this topic who think it is a crime to remind soldiers they are allowed to disobey an unlawful order.

It simply isn't a crime, any more than telling someone they dont have to vote for Trump. Though I'm sure many Trumptards wish it was.

All that just to not admit you were ******* wrong.

Pathetic.

 

[Marener]

Has anyone mentioned that the OP suggests arresting people for engaging in protected speech?

******* fascists.

 

[g5000]

The maximum punishment for disobeying a lawful order is much more severe for the GI than it is for a democrat senator who gives service members bad advice

what is the maximum punishment for disobeying s lawful order in the us military at DuckDuckGo

Only if the order was lawful.

The title of this topic is "Arrest them". The idiot who wrote it bleevs it is a crime to remind the military they are allowed to disobey an unlawful order, and a bunch more idiots joined in.

It is not a crime.

Don't double down on the stupid, mm-kay?

You people are a mob and have a mob's hive mind behavior.

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[Mac-7]

Only if the order was lawful.

The title of this topic is "Arrest them". The idiot who wrote it bleevs it is a crime to remind the military they are allowed to disobey an unlawful order, and a bunch more idiots joined in.

It is not a crime.

Don't double down on the stupid, mm-kay?

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I agree there is a 1% chance that a courts martial will find not guilty

But none of the fat ass democrats in the video would stick their neck out that far

 

[AntonToo]

Enlistments are at record levels for a good reason. Trump
That is all.

What do you THINK would be expected for enrollment when unemployment for youth grows?

The youth unemployment rate, at 10.8 percent in July 2025, was 1.0 percentage point higher than the rate in July 2024.

The July 2025 unemployment rates... for young men...11.0 percent.

Employment and Unemployment Among Youth Summary - 2025 A01 Results

www.bls.gov

 

[Zincwarrior]

Sounds rather insurrectiony. Send em to the gulag, they aren't fit to serve

Whats the issue? They are literally restating their oath of office and duty to ONLY obey legal orders.

Is that a problem for you?