Arnold Schwarzenegger voices frustrations with lack of patriotism in America: 'It doesn't make any sense'...we need to teach Americans to love America

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Too late. He was yelling and part of the problem attacking a president who was doing well by the American People.

$6000 more per year for the average citizen after 3 years under Trump compared to a few hundred after 8 years of Obama/Biden. As I say, you break it, you buy it. He wanted to pretend he didn't see this coming? Guy is worth many millions, of course he didn't see it.

China has been crushing the West, lead by the most feckless "experts" and Establishment over the last 30 years. Either fully incompetent, compromised, or, unconcerned for the plight of their nation long-ter.
Right wingers simply have no fine capital solutions at lower cost. Capitalism, what is That sayeth the right wing every time we ask.
neither do you danny....you just repeat the same shit and over....no matter what the topic is....
 

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It's kind of hard to love a country whose government is so fucked up and basically doesn't give a shit what the people want.



“The preferences of the average American appear to have only a minuscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.”
the government cares deeply,,, its the dems and repubes in it tht are the problem,,,
The government is made up of democrats and republicans.

So no the government doesn't give a shit about you.
sorry they are just the current office holders,,, the constitution is the government,,,
And piece of paper can't care about anything.

The government is the people who make it up and the Constitution is just the rule book
I refuse to accept that,,,
You can live in fantasy land if you want to.
no fantasy needed,,,,

the constitution as written clearly cares about the freedom of people,,,

its the dems and repubes holding office that dont care about anything but themselves,,,
The Constitution is a piece of paper.

It cannot care

it was the people who wrote the Constitution that were concerned for the People. We know the authors of the Constitution didn't care that people were enslaved in this country as well. People had to change that.

But we know now that those who are supposed to uphold the Constitution for the good of the people do not care what the people want.

And they can still not care all while not violating the rules set forth in the Constitution.
we are a nation of laws not of men,,,
We have so many laws that it is impossible to know whether or not you are committing a crime at any given moment. People wrote and passed those laws. People study and then interpret those laws. Sometimes laws are struck down after years or even decades.






How else is it do you think the real world works?
 
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forget the left, the REAL America is at post 9/11 patriotism right now!
 

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Too late. He was yelling and part of the problem attacking a president who was doing well by the American People.

$6000 more per year for the average citizen after 3 years under Trump compared to a few hundred after 8 years of Obama/Biden. As I say, you break it, you buy it. He wanted to pretend he didn't see this coming? Guy is worth many millions, of course he didn't see it.

China has been crushing the West, lead by the most feckless "experts" and Establishment over the last 30 years. Either fully incompetent, compromised, or, unconcerned for the plight of their nation long-term.
I don’t know where the few hundred $$ improvement under Obama was. I didn’t see it. Our household lost $80K in disposable income because of the obamunist’s energy policy.
 
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our children need to read less Howard Zinn and more high school textbooks that were made in Texas, my friends!
 

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Since this last election, I plan on being an American flag wearer.

I'm going to drape it all over my body going forward.

I started w/an American pen that I bought at the NYC gift shop in Times Square on Monday morning before I left.

I'm planning on getting American undies, bed sheets, pillow cases, flags for my car, the whole nine.

God Bless President Elect Joe Biden and Vice President Elect Kamala Harris and God bless America.
Why would you wear an American flag now?
Your boy and girl will be working MUCH harder for China than for you
China china china. Wow you are so easily duped.
 

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Too late. He was yelling and part of the problem attacking a president who was doing well by the American People.

$6000 more per year for the average citizen after 3 years under Trump compared to a few hundred after 8 years of Obama/Biden. As I say, you break it, you buy it. He wanted to pretend he didn't see this coming? Guy is worth many millions, of course he didn't see it.

China has been crushing the West, lead by the most feckless "experts" and Establishment over the last 30 years. Either fully incompetent, compromised, or, unconcerned for the plight of their nation long-term.
Donald Trump: Working (somewhat) to repair the damage that people like him are ultimately responsible for.
 

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Give a listen....if you like:



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Too late. He was yelling and part of the problem attacking a president who was doing well by the American People.

$6000 more per year for the average citizen after 3 years under Trump compared to a few hundred after 8 years of Obama/Biden. As I say, you break it, you buy it. He wanted to pretend he didn't see this coming? Guy is worth many millions, of course he didn't see it.

China has been crushing the West, lead by the most feckless "experts" and Establishment over the last 30 years. Either fully incompetent, compromised, or, unconcerned for the plight of their nation long-ter.
Right wingers simply have no fine capital solutions at lower cost. Capitalism, what is That sayeth the right wing every time we ask.
It is not the Right Wingers job to produce those capital solutions. Socialism on paper is the the best. It is putting it in practice where issues arise. We have had whole industries reduced from mighty high perches in part due to union socialism. We had to save some of those industries with taxpayer money. Tell us how we compete with other nations with products that are cutting edge and a monument to the nation if we have pure socialism. And remember...the constitution says nothing about capitalism or socialism. It says liberty. And we are losing that. When you are fully in power you will continue to make excuses for the failures in your programs that have manifested itself in our culture. That is for the massive amount of resources spent on social justice equality we are in a worse position today if we have a national calamity then in anytime in our history.
 

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Too late. He was yelling and part of the problem attacking a president who was doing well by the American People.

$6000 more per year for the average citizen after 3 years under Trump compared to a few hundred after 8 years of Obama/Biden. As I say, you break it, you buy it. He wanted to pretend he didn't see this coming? Guy is worth many millions, of course he didn't see it.

China has been crushing the West, lead by the most feckless "experts" and Establishment over the last 30 years. Either fully incompetent, compromised, or, unconcerned for the plight of their nation long-ter.
Right wingers simply have no fine capital solutions at lower cost. Capitalism, what is That sayeth the right wing every time we ask.
It is not the Right Wingers job to produce those capital solutions. Socialism on paper is the the best. It is putting it in practice where issues arise. We have had whole industries reduced from mighty high perches in part due to union socialism. We had to save some of those industries with taxpayer money. Tell us how we compete with other nations with products that are cutting edge and a monument to the nation if we have pure socialism. And remember...the constitution says nothing about capitalism or socialism. It says liberty. And we are losing that. When you are fully in power you will continue to make excuses for the failures in your programs that have manifested itself in our culture. That is for the massive amount of resources spent on social justice equality we are in a worse position today if we have a national calamity then in anytime in our history.
Right wing tax cut economics are worse. Having Government perpetually underfunded means more inequality and less liberty.

The problem is right wingers have no fine capital solutions to our problems only their right wing socialism on a national and international basis while alleging they are not really like that in socialism threads.
 

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Too late. He was yelling and part of the problem attacking a president who was doing well by the American People.

$6000 more per year for the average citizen after 3 years under Trump compared to a few hundred after 8 years of Obama/Biden. As I say, you break it, you buy it. He wanted to pretend he didn't see this coming? Guy is worth many millions, of course he didn't see it.

China has been crushing the West, lead by the most feckless "experts" and Establishment over the last 30 years. Either fully incompetent, compromised, or, unconcerned for the plight of their nation long-ter.
Right wingers simply have no fine capital solutions at lower cost. Capitalism, what is That sayeth the right wing every time we ask.
It is not the Right Wingers job to produce those capital solutions. Socialism on paper is the the best. It is putting it in practice where issues arise. We have had whole industries reduced from mighty high perches in part due to union socialism. We had to save some of those industries with taxpayer money. Tell us how we compete with other nations with products that are cutting edge and a monument to the nation if we have pure socialism. And remember...the constitution says nothing about capitalism or socialism. It says liberty. And we are losing that. When you are fully in power you will continue to make excuses for the failures in your programs that have manifested itself in our culture. That is for the massive amount of resources spent on social justice equality we are in a worse position today if we have a national calamity then in anytime in our history.
Right wing tax cut economics are worse. Having Government perpetually underfunded means more inequality and less liberty.

The problem is right wingers have no fine capital solutions to our problems only their right wing socialism on a national and international basis while alleging they are not really like that in socialism threads.
like i have said before danny....the only solution you have is on your hand and the bed sheets when you wake up....
 

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The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
 
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we defeated the Nazis. we defeated the Native Americans. The USA even defeated the metric system. if there was a better country on earth, God would have put me on it!
 

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this is a debate we need to have!

Does this mean more bread rations for the slaves?
we can always count on you to troll a thread with stupid comments,,,
Agreed. Doesnt it seem like a complete waste of time? :dunno:
 

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this is a debate we need to have!

I sometimes think Americans are too fascists with all due respect. I come from a country that is thousands of years old has a monarchy, but I was appalled at the amount of nationalism shoved down people's throats in the US....Holidays, National anthems during entertainments, flags everywhere, the pledge of legion in schools, armed forces commercials everywhere. It feels like the country is at war and being attacked from all sides. Too much and I love this country and its open minded people. But many led to beleive that outside the US the sun doesn't shine. Even the homeless veteran and non veteran carrying an American flag while been thrown to the street to fend for themselves by the same country that they sacrificed their lives for.
 

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this is a debate we need to have!

How do you 'teach love' of country?

Many republicans seem to believe that merely teaching this country's *actual* history erodes patriotism.

So what are you suggesting we teach instead?
when did republicans say that???
Their panty shitting hysterics regarding the 1619 project? The watered down version of history taught in textbooks approved by conservative states, where slaves were referred to as 'immigrants'?

Would republicans be opposed to high school aged kids doing a deep dive into the first hand accounts of actual former slaves? Or would that be 'propaganda'?
REPUBLICANS were the heroes of the anti-Slave movement and, as such, have no problem when looking at slave issues.

Getting first hand accounts of former slaves in the US would be tough, but if they want, they can talk to actual living slaves in North Africa, caused directly by the Obama/Biden Administration.
 

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this is a debate we need to have!

How do you 'teach love' of country?

Many republicans seem to believe that merely teaching this country's *actual* history erodes patriotism.

So what are you suggesting we teach instead?
when did republicans say that???
Their panty shitting hysterics regarding the 1619 project? The watered down version of history taught in textbooks approved by conservative states, where slaves were referred to as 'immigrants'?

Would republicans be opposed to high school aged kids doing a deep dive into the first hand accounts of actual former slaves? Or would that be 'propaganda'?
REPUBLICANS were the heroes of the anti-Slave movement and, as such, have no problem when looking at slave issues.

Getting first hand accounts of former slaves in the US would be tough, but if they want, they can talk to actual living slaves in North Africa, caused directly by the Obama/Biden Administration.
Too bad right wingers used to vote democrat back in the slavery days.
 

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