Arizona House Passes Law to Nullify Biden’s Federal Gun Control

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The Arizona House passed a law to nullify federal gun control measures last last month, establishing the state as a Second Amendment sanctuary.

Arizona House Passes Law to Nullify Biden's Federal Gun Control - Big League Politics
Needless to say, this idiotic ‘law’ is un-Constitutional – it clearly violates Article VI.
“A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
- supercedes federal law. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you people not understand? The federal government has no authority to regulate firearms. It is strictly a state matter within the limitations proscribed by the amendment itself, and the 14th.
Only Well Regulated militia of the United States have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for the security of their State or the Union. The unorganized militia does not have literal recourse to our Second Amendment, as civil and individual Persons, who are subject to the police power of their State.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)
Wow. You are very misinformed about the Second Amendment. I don't know what the gun rights are in your country, but if you want to have an informed discussion about gun rights in the U.S., you should read up on the following SCOTUS decisions that are super precedent on this issue. Spoiler alert: both prongs of your post are incorrect.


Held: The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. Pp. 2–53.


Held: the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which guarantees “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,” applies to state and local governments as well as to the federal government.
Not at all. You are even more misinformed in your country since in my country we have a Constitution that is express not implied by right wing fantasy in any way. In fact, if you have to Imply instead of Express, you are already resorting to fallacy to begin with. We have our Ninth and Tenth Amendments. Simply appealing to authority is a fallacy. You have to explain why the Supreme Court ignored the rules of construction and sacrificed the End to the Means in those rulings.

And, the People are the Militia. There is no such thing as well regulated militia of Individuals of the People. Well regulated militia must be organized by the several States according to regulations prescribed by Congress.

Article 1, Section 8: Congress shall have Power: To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
 

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The Arizona House passed a law to nullify federal gun control measures last last month, establishing the state as a Second Amendment sanctuary.

Arizona House Passes Law to Nullify Biden's Federal Gun Control - Big League Politics
Needless to say, this idiotic ‘law’ is un-Constitutional – it clearly violates Article VI.
“A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
- supercedes federal law. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you people not understand? The federal government has no authority to regulate firearms. It is strictly a state matter within the limitations proscribed by the amendment itself, and the 14th.
Only Well Regulated militia of the United States have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for the security of their State or the Union. The unorganized militia does not have literal recourse to our Second Amendment, as civil and individual Persons, who are subject to the police power of their State.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)
The USSC has ruled that the Right to Keep and bear arms is the Right of individual Americans just as is written in the Bill of Rights where the other Rights of individuals are listed. An explanation is not a limitation and a single individual can be a well regulated militia as show through long historical usage.
That ruling was in (legal) error. It cannot be an Individual right without ignoring the rules of construction or sacrificing the End to the Means. The several States can safely ignore those rulings and challenge them in that venue whenever necessary since the Court will have to explain why they ignored the rules of construction and sacrificed the End to the Means when they came up with their legal fallacy.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

This is the End: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,

This is the Means: the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The Means must be sacrificed to the End in any conflict of laws.
 
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The Arizona House passed a law to nullify federal gun control measures last last month, establishing the state as a Second Amendment sanctuary.

Arizona House Passes Law to Nullify Biden's Federal Gun Control - Big League Politics
Needless to say, this idiotic ‘law’ is un-Constitutional – it clearly violates Article VI.
“A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
- supercedes federal law. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you people not understand? The federal government has no authority to regulate firearms. It is strictly a state matter within the limitations proscribed by the amendment itself, and the 14th.
Only Well Regulated militia of the United States have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for the security of their State or the Union. The unorganized militia does not have literal recourse to our Second Amendment, as civil and individual Persons, who are subject to the police power of their State.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)
The USSC has ruled that the Right to Keep and bear arms is the Right of individual Americans just as is written in the Bill of Rights where the other Rights of individuals are listed. An explanation is not a limitation and a single individual can be a well regulated militia as show through long historical usage.
That ruling was in (legal) error.
It was not, nor was it a "new" ruling. It merely reiterated what was common knowledge until the mid-20th Century, when the Constitution came under express attack by the "Progressives" of the time, and the education system was primed to portray that then-current thinking as the same as that of the past.
 

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What Biden federal gun control is there?
Did you not read the article?

" any new federal gun control laws restricting gun rights, citing the unconstitutionality of the Biden administration’s support for “assault weapons” bans, attacks on online firearms transactions, and forced registry of semiautomatic rifles as NFA items. "
 

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What Biden federal gun control is there?
Did you not read the article?

" any new federal gun control laws restricting gun rights, citing the unconstitutionality of the Biden administration’s support for “assault weapons” bans, attacks on online firearms transactions, and forced registry of semiautomatic rifles as NFA items. "
Where are these "new" laws?
 

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The Arizona House passed a law to nullify federal gun control measures last last month, establishing the state as a Second Amendment sanctuary.

Arizona House Passes Law to Nullify Biden's Federal Gun Control - Big League Politics
Lol, why bother? When and if the scum try to take some action on guns, tell them to fuck off and die. If they show up have your police or national guard round them up and dispose of them.
I refuse to register mine and I refuse to let them know if I have any or not.
 
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The Arizona House passed a law to nullify federal gun control measures last last month, establishing the state as a Second Amendment sanctuary.

Arizona House Passes Law to Nullify Biden's Federal Gun Control - Big League Politics
Lol, why bother? When and if the scum try to take some action on guns, tell them to fuck off and die. If they show up have your police or national guard round them up and dispose of them.
I refuse to register mine and I refuse to let them know if I have any or not.
Have what?
 

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The Arizona House passed a law to nullify federal gun control measures last last month, establishing the state as a Second Amendment sanctuary.

Arizona House Passes Law to Nullify Biden's Federal Gun Control - Big League Politics
What is the Biden federal gun control you're referring to?
The one rattling around between his ears that he has all but sworn to enact.
Come on Billy, why can't you answer the reasonable question?
 

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The Arizona House passed a law to nullify federal gun control measures last last month, establishing the state as a Second Amendment sanctuary.

Arizona House Passes Law to Nullify Biden's Federal Gun Control - Big League Politics
Needless to say, this idiotic ‘law’ is un-Constitutional – it clearly violates Article VI.
“A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
- supercedes federal law. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you people not understand? The federal government has no authority to regulate firearms. It is strictly a state matter within the limitations proscribed by the amendment itself, and the 14th.
Only Well Regulated militia of the United States have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for the security of their State or the Union. The unorganized militia does not have literal recourse to our Second Amendment, as civil and individual Persons, who are subject to the police power of their State.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)
The USSC has ruled that the Right to Keep and bear arms is the Right of individual Americans just as is written in the Bill of Rights where the other Rights of individuals are listed. An explanation is not a limitation and a single individual can be a well regulated militia as show through long historical usage.
Several Founding Father have supported gun rights of Americans too, the Federalist Papers covers it.
 
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The Arizona House passed a law to nullify federal gun control measures last last month, establishing the state as a Second Amendment sanctuary.

Arizona House Passes Law to Nullify Biden's Federal Gun Control - Big League Politics
What is the Biden federal gun control you're referring to?
The one rattling around between his ears that he has all but sworn to enact.
Come on Billy, why can't you answer the reasonable question?
No reasonable question has been asked. Biden & Co. have a long history from which to draw. People might avail themselves of it.

Or not.
 

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The Arizona House passed a law to nullify federal gun control measures last last month, establishing the state as a Second Amendment sanctuary.

Arizona House Passes Law to Nullify Biden's Federal Gun Control - Big League Politics
Needless to say, this idiotic ‘law’ is un-Constitutional – it clearly violates Article VI.
“A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
- supercedes federal law. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you people not understand? The federal government has no authority to regulate firearms. It is strictly a state matter within the limitations proscribed by the amendment itself, and the 14th.
Only Well Regulated militia of the United States have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for the security of their State or the Union. The unorganized militia does not have literal recourse to our Second Amendment, as civil and individual Persons, who are subject to the police power of their State.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)
Wow. You are very misinformed about the Second Amendment. I don't know what the gun rights are in your country, but if you want to have an informed discussion about gun rights in the U.S., you should read up on the following SCOTUS decisions that are super precedent on this issue. Spoiler alert: both prongs of your post are incorrect.


Held: The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. Pp. 2–53.


Held: the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which guarantees “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,” applies to state and local governments as well as to the federal government.
Not at all. You are even more misinformed in your country since in my country we have a Constitution that is express not implied by right wing fantasy in any way. In fact, if you have to Imply instead of Express, you are already resorting to fallacy to begin with. We have our Ninth and Tenth Amendments. Simply appealing to authority is a fallacy. You have to explain why the Supreme Court ignored the rules of construction and sacrificed the End to the Means in those rulings.

And, the People are the Militia. There is no such thing as well regulated militia of Individuals of the People. Well regulated militia must be organized by the several States according to regulations prescribed by Congress.

Article 1, Section 8: Congress shall have Power: To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
Would you have a problem if say half of New Mexico and half of Arizona formed a new state?
 

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The Arizona House passed a law to nullify federal gun control measures last last month, establishing the state as a Second Amendment sanctuary.

Arizona House Passes Law to Nullify Biden's Federal Gun Control - Big League Politics
What is the Biden federal gun control you're referring to?
The one rattling around between his ears that he has all but sworn to enact.
Come on Billy, why can't you answer the reasonable question?
No reasonable question has been asked. Biden & Co. have a long history from which to draw. You might avail yourself of it.

Or not.
Well gee YOU wrote this title of the thread:

Arizona House Passes Law to Nullify Biden’s Federal Gun Control

But when asked about WHAT "Biden's Federal Gun Control" is you duck answering it.

Again please answer the reasonable question:

What is the Biden federal gun control you're referring to?
 

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Only Well Regulated militia of the United States have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for the security of their State or the Union. The unorganized militia does not have literal recourse to our Second Amendment, as civil and individual Persons, who are subject to the police power of their State.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Well, I was about to lace you up. You're just making stuff up and have no clue how very silly your claims are. But I see that Osiris-ODS straightened you out. See post #16.
 

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Needless to say, this idiotic ‘law’ is un-Constitutional – it clearly violates Article VI.

The supremacy of Federal laws is a fact settled, accepted, and beyond dispute; the states and local jurisdictions are subject to Federal laws and the decisions of Federal courts (see Cooper v. Aaron (1958)).

Residents of the states and state and local lawmakers will obey and comply with all Federal laws – including Federal firearm regulatory measures.

If the residents of Arizona believe a given firearm regulation violates the Second Amendment, they’re at liberty to file suit in Federal court to seek to have that law overturned.
You forgot about the Emergency, Go-To-Hell Clause per natural law, referenced in the Declaration of Independence, to which mindless parrots like you are driving this nation: "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them [the people] under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
 
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The Arizona House passed a law to nullify federal gun control measures last last month, establishing the state as a Second Amendment sanctuary.

Arizona House Passes Law to Nullify Biden's Federal Gun Control - Big League Politics
What is the Biden federal gun control you're referring to?
The one rattling around between his ears that he has all but sworn to enact.
Come on Billy, why can't you answer the reasonable question?
No reasonable question has been asked. Biden & Co. have a long history from which to draw. You might avail yourself of it.

Or not.
Well gee YOU wrote this title of the thread:

Arizona House Passes Law to Nullify Biden’s Federal Gun Control

But when asked about WHAT "Biden's Federal Gun Control" is you duck answering it.

Again please answer the reasonable question:

What is the Biden federal gun control you're referring to?
See # 31. That's my answer.
 

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