Are you protest voting?

[Onyx]

I agree Every vote for Clinton or Trump is enabling the broken system. Everyone should vote for Jill Stein.

A big government progressive with an enviornmental spin.

Environmentalists are one faction I know will never hold significant power. Even their attempts to add political, social, and economic issues is futile.

 

[Windship]

you forgot to mention anti corporate run state advocate.

 

[Onyx]

you forgot to mention anti corporate run state advocate.

Believe it or not, politicians like Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein are corporate wet dreams.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Then you are apart of the problem.

Every ballot cast is further enabling this broken system. If you really want to protest, then stay home.

Ummm, if you really believe that voting for anyone that is not part of the two bigger party system is wrong, well who the hell are you?

I find it amazing that you believe that voters either have to make their choice either from candidate A or B and want to refuse the voter the right to make another choice.

Seeing you already told voters that are not voting for your candidate to stay home tell me the type of individual you are and your hatred for freedom of choice and free will!

 

[Onyx]

I find it amazing that you believe that voters either have to make their choice either from candidate A or B and want to refuse the voter the right to make another choice.

Glad to amaze you.

We live in a reality where the third parties (which are all shitty) will never come to power. Of course it is better to not validate the system than continue playing into the game.

Seeing you already told voters that are not voting for your candidate to stay home tell me the type of individual you are and your hatred for freedom of choice and free will!

Hatred of free choice and free will?

Spare me. I am voicing an opinion , not issuing a government mandate.

 

[keepitreal]

This is as bad as women voting for Hillary just cuz she's a woman,
or men voting for Trump just cuz he's a man
and don't want a woman running the country.

He cheated, so what...he's obnoxious, so what....
he talks dirty, so what,....he used a loophole to skip out on taxes,
so what....who here wouldn't... He's human, and that's him.

Hillary on the other hand is a phoney, she's part of the establishment.

Her campaign has used 'mocking a disabled reporter' to bash him
but, what hurts the disabled more, cutting funding or mockery.

She wants to bring up taxes and the problem I have with that is,
charitable contributions are tax deductible, so, if she contributes
$20,000 to her own charity, her taxable income is taxed after that.

I mean, really, come on,...
She ran her last bid in the red and had the nerve,
to ask her contributors for more money.
How much has her and bill earned since he left office?

That's why we have the idiots we do....
people do not make informed decisions,
even if it's between the better of the two evils
It's better to vote than not!

Thats a crock of shit.
Voting for evil perpetuates evil and nothing changes...absolutely horrible advice. That is exactly what they WANT you to do. What about the other candidates?

What other candidates....
I did not give any advice, I gave my opinion.

Not voting is what they want us to do,
it is the 'on the fence', 'I don't care' & 'won't make a difference' voters
that could make or break an election

People who are already set on their candidate,
are going to cast a vote for them, regardless.

Inactions are a form of complacency, complacency is silent acceptance

You express contempt for the system
My avatar says, fuck the system, yet,
you have a problem with my avatar cuz of the anarchy symbol.

I'm in favor of a revolution.
Clean house and take back control of an out of control government
A governing system not serving the people,
despite the fact, we are the only true proprietors of the system.

A system that squanders tax dollars on everything but,
what they are intended for and should be used for.

A system that sleeps with our enemies

A system that has allowed our country to falter financially,
because they are in the pockets of corporations & establishments

A system that is broken because of the complacency of the people.

Doing nothing is still doing something.

 

[Onyx]

You express contempt for the system

I take it that you meant to quote me.

My avatar says, fuck the system, yet,
you have a problem with my avatar cuz of the anarchy symbol.

No shit.

You should not be associating yourself with anarchist colors if you are not an anarchist.

I'm in favor of a revolution.
Clean house and take back control of an out of control government

Redefining the state is not an anarchist position.

You should be affiliating with Occupy Wall Street instead of us.

A system that squanders tax dollars on everything but,
what they are intended for and should be used for.

A system that sleeps with our enemies

A system that has allowed our country to falter financially,
because they are in the pockets of corporations & establishments

That's exactly how all statist societies end up.

Your "revolution" is going to end up creating the same exact system in the long run.

Doing nothing is still doing something.

So continuing to legitimize an inherently illegitimate system through voting?

I am off to kill a Jew. It is sure better than being complacent.

 

[keepitreal]

I take it that you meant to quote me.

I thought that's what I did

You should not be associating with anarchist insignia if you are not an anarchist

Let me go search for an avatar
that says Fuck the System, minus the anarchy symbol...

Redefining the state is not an anarchist position.

You should be affiliating with Occupy Wall Street and not us.

Nix a new avatar, wanting a stable, working government is anarchist

I'm not affiliating myself, I posted an opinion

So continuing to legitimize an inherently illegitimate system through voting?

You're absolutely right...I'm sold, no way I'm voting either...

Do you like me now

 

[Onyx]

Nix a new avatar, wanting a stable, working government is anarchist

Anarchism means no rulers.

Wishfully desiring an honest and transparent state would classify you as a state libertarian. What anarchist philosophers launched your political education?

You're absolutely right...I'm sold, no way I'm voting either...

Do you like me now

Never disliked you as a person. I disliked that you were posing.

Anyone with anti-establishment tendencies is a natural ally of mine.

 

[keepitreal]

Anarchism means no rulers.

Wishfully desiring an honest and transparent state would classify you as a state libertarian. What anarchist philosophers launched your political education?

I desire an honest, transparent & working government.

I don't want to label myself or affix myself to a group
I just want a governing system that works as best it can
cuz it is run as honorably as possibly can.

I mean government at every level...local, state & federal

Never disliked you as a person. I disliked that you were posing.

Anyone with anti-establishment tendencies is a natural ally of mine.

What does that mean...I was posing
I like the avatar cuz it says Fuck the System, that's it, that's all

But, even besides that, why should that have any bearing on anything
Message boards are people expressing opinions and viewpoints

I'm not anti establishment, I'm anti fucked up and crooked establishment

There was a time I considered myself a Democrat...
Why...cuz I live in a democratic state and my father voted democratic
I rarely used to vote either but spent a lot of energy complaining

As I got older, I started questioning what I was blindly following
Government in general, politics & policies

After the bush, gore election and Daley remaining in office
I totally disengaged myself from politics
...until Obama

I was all gung ho for him until he helped push through the bailout
I stayed home and didn't vote

By reelection time, I voted but, wrote in rick santorum
I knew it wouldn't make a difference but
I felt he had been the best candidate
The first time ever voting for a Republican

Do I think Trump is the most qualified to run this country...
No, I don't think he is but, I'm willing to give him an opportunity to run things.
All the 'qualified' individuals running shit for the past 16 yrs
are only qualified to fuck things up more then it already is.

The real shame is that good politicians can not initiate change
because the crooked incumbents have and hold the power

Congress should be the first priority
for a major overhaul of representatives anyway

Nothing changes if nothing changes

 

[Onyx]

Anarchism means no rulers.

Wishfully desiring an honest and transparent state would classify you as a state libertarian. What anarchist philosophers launched your political education?

I desire an honest, transparent & working government.

I don't want to label myself or affix myself to a group
I just want a governing system that works as best it can
cuz it is run as honorably as possibly can.

Then drop the anarchist symbol.

I like the avatar cuz it says Fuck the System, that's it, that's all

Yeah, but you are associating non anarchist beliefs with a profile picture that implies you are a supporter of anarchism.

Want a win-win? Find a profile picture that says "fuck the system" and does not use anarchist insignia.

But, even besides that, why should that have any bearing on anything
Message boards are people expressing opinions and viewpoints

I'm not anti establishment, I'm anti fucked up and crooked establishment

There was a time I considered myself a Democrat...
Why...cuz I live in a democratic state and my father voted democratic
I rarely used to vote either but spent a lot of energy complaining

As I got older, I started questioning what I was blindly following
Government in general, politics & policies

After the bush, gore election and Daley remaining in office
I totally disengaged myself from politics
...until Obama

I was all gung ho for him until he helped push through the bailout
I stayed home and didn't vote

By reelection time, I voted but, wrote in rick santorum
I knew it wouldn't make a difference but I felt he had been the best candidate
The first time ever voting for a Republican

Do I think Trump is the most qualified to run this country...
No, I don't think he is but, I'm willing to give him an opportunity to run things.
All the 'qualified' individuals running shit for the past 16 yrs
are only qualified to fuck things up more then it already is.

The real shame is that good politicians can not initiate change
because the crooked incumbents have and hold the power

Congress should be the first priority for a major overhaul of representatives anyway

Nothing changes if nothing changes

This place is not very accommodating towards preachers.

 

[Freewill]

Then you are apart of the problem.

Every ballot cast is further enabling this broken system. If you really want to protest, then stay home.

Staying home is a vote for Hillary.

Forget all issues there is only one that is important, SCOTUS nominations. Hillary can not be allowed to nominate anyone to anything.

 

[Onyx]

Staying home is a vote for Hillary.

Uh, no.

A vote for Hillary is a vote for Hillary.

Forget all issues there is only one that is important, SCOTUS nominations.

Is of no consequence to me.

 

[keepitreal]

This place is not very accommodating towards preachers.

Alrighty then, changed my avatar just to appease you

Now then, do tell..what was I preaching

 

[Onyx]

Alrighty then, changed my avatar just to appease you

No, you appeased the purity of the anarchist ideology.

Now then, do tell..what was I preaching

Beats me.

People tend to zone out when you plug in excessively large walls irrelevant to the conversation.

 

[keepitreal]

1. I'll give you that

2. Don't want to be the reason for anyone zoning out
because I respond or am not on topic

Have a nice night

 

[P F Tinmore]

Then you are apart of the problem.

Every ballot cast is further enabling this broken system. If you really want to protest, then stay home.

I agree Every vote for Clinton or Trump is enabling the broken system. Everyone should vote for Jill Stein.

Great post, thanks.

 

[keepitreal]

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I most certainly have changed my mind and decided to protest vote!

I tried watching the 2nd presidential debates today but,
I couldn't even stomach it enough to wait til Trump was done answering.

I made it through Hillary's response to the first question but,
couldn't stomach Donald for more then a min or two... click

ANSWER THE F-ING QUESTION!
She didn't answer it and he wasn't going to either.
10 mins of my life that I can never get back

It was after I switched to watching the latest episode of The Exorcist,
that I decided to stay home on election night and questioned my logic.

I knew I wasn't voting for Hillary but,
how could I vote for Trump and reasonably justify that?
I can't so, I don't know what the hell I was thinking!

Then, it occurred to me...I don't have to stay home!
I'll protest vote by casting a vote for myself!
I can do that, right? ...cuz, if I can't, I'm staying home!