Are you in favor of Obama's new Amnesty/Voter register program?

Not with me it can't. I am against amnesty. They want to be citizens go home and apply through channels. Period.

We do not need any new laws just enforce our current immigration laws, enforce the borders period. we want our laws enforced why should we give special treatment to cheats and law breakers. go back to where you came from fill out the proper forms and wait in line with the rest of the immigrants that are seeking to come here.
What you advocate is changing nothing. Just tell the INS and Boarder Patrol to do a better job. That does not solve the problem. We can continue to do the same thing and the results will be same.

We should:
Stop the hiring of illegals
Improve boarder security
Imprison and deport those that commit crimes other than crossing the boarder
Absorb the remainder
That will work.

The only thing I have a problem with is giving amnesty to the remainder...we've given amnesty out several times in the past and the ONLY result has been increased illegal immigration. As long as that's on the table, I'm against it. Giving amnesty to people who broke into this country is like giving amnesty to all burglars...are you in favor of that?

It's also a slap in the face to every LEGAL immigrant in this nation not to mention people like my brother's mother in law and our Hungarian friends that were NEVER allowed into this country and didn't break our laws to come here.

Let's just give amnesty to everyone that breaks into YOUR home and decides to stay, okay?
 
We do not need any new laws just enforce our current immigration laws, enforce the borders period. we want our laws enforced why should we give special treatment to cheats and law breakers. go back to where you came from fill out the proper forms and wait in line with the rest of the immigrants that are seeking to come here.
What you advocate is changing nothing. Just tell the INS and Boarder Patrol to do a better job. That does not solve the problem. We can continue to do the same thing and the results will be same.

We should:
Stop the hiring of illegals
Improve boarder security
Imprison and deport those that commit crimes other than crossing the boarder
Absorb the remainder
That will work.

The only thing I have a problem with is giving amnesty to the remainder...we've given amnesty out several times in the past and the ONLY result has been increased illegal immigration. As long as that's on the table, I'm against it. Giving amnesty to people who broke into this country is like giving amnesty to all burglars...are you in favor of that?

It's also a slap in the face to every LEGAL immigrant in this nation not to mention people like my brother's mother in law and our Hungarian friends that were NEVER allowed into this country and didn't break our laws to come here.

Let's just give amnesty to everyone that breaks into YOUR home and decides to stay, okay?

Fallacy of illogical comparison
 
We do not need any new laws just enforce our current immigration laws, enforce the borders period. we want our laws enforced why should we give special treatment to cheats and law breakers. go back to where you came from fill out the proper forms and wait in line with the rest of the immigrants that are seeking to come here.
What you advocate is changing nothing. Just tell the INS and Boarder Patrol to do a better job. That does not solve the problem. We can continue to do the same thing and the results will be same.

We should:
Stop the hiring of illegals
Improve boarder security
Imprison and deport those that commit crimes other than crossing the boarder
Absorb the remainder
That will work.

The only thing I have a problem with is giving amnesty to the remainder...we've given amnesty out several times in the past and the ONLY result has been increased illegal immigration. As long as that's on the table, I'm against it. Giving amnesty to people who broke into this country is like giving amnesty to all burglars...are you in favor of that?

It's also a slap in the face to every LEGAL immigrant in this nation not to mention people like my brother's mother in law and our Hungarian friends that were NEVER allowed into this country and didn't break our laws to come here.

Let's just give amnesty to everyone that breaks into YOUR home and decides to stay, okay?

Yes. Calling an illegal alien an 'immigrant' or 'undocumented worker' is like calling a burglar a house guest. And granting amnesty to those already here makes about as much sense as telling the burglar that oh well, as long as you're here, you might as well settle into the spare bedroom.

And, as previously stated, giving amnesty and a path to citizenship to those who have been here two or more years or who have been here a long time is like giving the death penalty to the guy who commits manslaughter but giving probation to the serial killer. Or if the bank robber robs a certain quota of banks, then he is entitled to just take the money no questions asked.

You know what? If you make house guests out of the burglar or give amnesty to the long time illegal alien, what deterrant is there for breaking and entering your house or your country?
 
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What you advocate is changing nothing. Just tell the INS and Boarder Patrol to do a better job. That does not solve the problem. We can continue to do the same thing and the results will be same.

We should:
Stop the hiring of illegals
Improve boarder security
Imprison and deport those that commit crimes other than crossing the boarder
Absorb the remainder
That will work.

The only thing I have a problem with is giving amnesty to the remainder...we've given amnesty out several times in the past and the ONLY result has been increased illegal immigration. As long as that's on the table, I'm against it. Giving amnesty to people who broke into this country is like giving amnesty to all burglars...are you in favor of that?

It's also a slap in the face to every LEGAL immigrant in this nation not to mention people like my brother's mother in law and our Hungarian friends that were NEVER allowed into this country and didn't break our laws to come here.

Let's just give amnesty to everyone that breaks into YOUR home and decides to stay, okay?

Fallacy of illogical comparison

Bullcrap!

It's a great comparison. You want to give amnesty to people who break into our country, who come here ILLEGALLY, but not to people who break into YOUR home illegally. Well, this country is OUR HOME.
 
You mean like Reagan's amnesty in '86? That killed the country too?

Oh, There You Go Again. Using the Great Rectum's own Amnesty Bill (Supported by Ronnie and signed by Ronnie) against Repugs.

They hate the truth.

What truth???? The truth that congress lied and refused to seal the border and control immigration??? The truth that they will take and do what they want, and again cheat us??? How many times must we pay for the fence??? Again and again. When is enough enough???

How about we build a canal from Brownsville to the Pacific??? Makes more sense than anything from any administration in the last 50 years. You sock puppets really need to pray for an original thought.
 
Illegal, do we remember what that means?



**** a bunch of amnesty!​

It's like an Idiot's convention here sometimes. You have got to wonder how some of the Einsteins here can manage to operate an electric tooth brush without poking out an eye or worse.
 
This will be the death to this country!!!! Come on liberals tell me why this is good!!!

Since that is what Obama wants, "to kill this nation," that is just another of his systematic moves to do so. He is a terrorist, and Americans are blind!!!
 
I don't think that the dems could get an amnesty Bill thru. If they tried to pass any form of amnesty, that would make November even worse than it's going to be for them.
 
I don't think that the dems could get an amnesty Bill thru. If they tried to pass any form of amnesty, that would make November even worse than it's going to be for them.

They may wait until after the November election, there will be a lot of lame ducks, and they would care less at that point.
 
We are sure to see a Frenzy of horribly drafted Big Government legislation between the mid-terms and the swearing in of the replacement officials. It will be a disgrace.
 
I don't think that the dems could get an amnesty Bill thru. If they tried to pass any form of amnesty, that would make November even worse than it's going to be for them.

They may wait until after the November election, there will be a lot of lame ducks, and they would care less at that point.

Then the Senators up for re-election in 2012 might consider discretion is the better part of valor and vote to save their jobs???

Pelosi and Reid won't get big stuff thru the Senate. If the GOP smells blood after 2012 the dem's agenda is TOAST.
 
Eagle beak, the GOP isn't going anywhere this fall except to the minority corner again. It isn't that the Dems are the majority's darling, it is the GOP is the rich girl that stood the average Joe up. The American people have not forgiven the Pubs because the Pubs have not apologized for what they have done to the country since 1994.
 
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I don't think that the dems could get an amnesty Bill thru. If they tried to pass any form of amnesty, that would make November even worse than it's going to be for them.

They may wait until after the November election, there will be a lot of lame ducks, and they would care less at that point.

Then the Senators up for re-election in 2012 might consider discretion is the better part of valor and vote to save their jobs???

Pelosi and Reid won't get big stuff thru the Senate. If the GOP smells blood after 2012 the dem's agenda is TOAST.

I think you're missing the point being made. Already Obama is hustling to get the rest of his most unpopular big ticket legislation out of committee and to a vote before he loses his mega majorities in Congress. That way he can claim all these magnificent victories and accomplishments and it's no skin off his nose if the evil Republicans then reverse some or all of it. He'll have his legacy. At least that's how he sees it now. He doesn't give a damn whether any of it is any good. I suspect he knows very well that it isn't. But he thinks you don't know that and will believe him that he was magnificent and was crucified on the alter of politics. or something like that.

Obama wants to be great. He's not the least bit interested in doing something great. He simply wants the image and doesn't care how he gets it.

So after the November election, Congress still has 60 days to do anything they want so long as Obama will sign it. And if most of them have already been beaten in their elections anyway, they will have absolutely nothing to lose before they have to leave their positions. Obama may get anything he wants.

And that should be terrifying to any sane person.
 
Foxfyre, this is one of your sillier analyzes about BHO. Simply admit you can't stand him because you can't stand him, and just move on.
 
Eagle beak, the GOP isn't going anywhere this fall except to the minority corner again. It isn't that the Dems are the majority's darling, it is the GOP is the rich girl that stood the average Joe up. The American people have not forgiven the Pubs because the Pubs have not apologized for what they have done to the country since 1994.

I cant wait fpr the 2012 presidential debates. The dems will be standing on repealing Glass-Steagall, the Fannie/Freddie cash-cows, the Community Reinvestment Act, etc.

The dems whine about the financial collapse, the GOP can say thet they got what they deserved because they caused it. Fact-checkers should burn up PCs checking the facts on which party caused the financial mess.
 
Republican congresses, Presidents Clinton and Bush, and little green Martians, I suppose.

The GOP has to regroup. What it, and the Tea Partiers, is doing is not working. Watch this fall.
 
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