Are You Getting All of This??? (Iran "deal")

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So by my informal count there are at least four different versions of the Iran "deal," and they are all contradictory...and only one of the four versions comes from people who know WTF it says. (But it will be made public in a few days).

The Prez and JDV are saying that Iran gets NOTHING until it starts to DO what it promised to do (e.g., open the infamous strait), it has agreed to kill its nuclear program - details to be worked out - and the U.S. is giving them NOT ONE DIME of taxpayer money. "We" will set up an investment fund for OTHERS to invest in Iran's rebuilding, and we might plan it, but NO U.S. DOLLARS(!).

The Democrats (who are evil and scorn the Truth) say that part of the "deal" is that WE are giving Iran THREE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS (presumably of U.S. taxpayer money), and Isn't that outrageous?!! And of course, this "deal" is no different, and certainly no better than the Obama deal of a few years ago. One minor point: Trump intends to treat the final "deal" as a treaty and seek Senate approval, as required by the U.S. Constitution. Obama never gave that a thought, so his deal was B.S. from the start.

The Iranians are saying (of course) that THEY FORCED THE U.S. INTO THIS DEAL, and part of it is that Israel MUST GET OUT OF SOUTHERN LEBANON, and must be kind to the Iranian proxies, Hamas, the Hooters, and Hezhollah. If Israel attacks any of the foregoing - even in retaliation - it is a deal breaker. But of course, if Iran attacks Israel, that is just Business As Usual, and not a deal breaker at all.

The Israeli's are saying that Trump appears to have betrayed them by not demanding that Iran STOP funding its proxies who are terrorizing Israel continually. But I think Vance hinted that we DID demand that Iran stop this bullshit. Not sure.

In any event, we have yet another situation where everyone with a word to say is saying it, with or without anything to back it up, and the MEDIA TREATS IT ALL AS NEWS, with one source equally valid as any other.

I hate it when they do this. It is not "breaking news" when some asshole renders an ignorant opinion about something where he does not know the facts. That is not news it is gossip.

What is a mother to believe?
 
The Iranians are saying (of course) that THEY FORCED THE U.S. INTO THIS DEAL, and part of it is that Israel MUST GET OUT OF SOUTHERN LEBANON, and must be kind to the Iranian proxies, Hamas, the Hooters, and Hezhollah. If Israel attacks any of the foregoing - even in retaliation - it is a deal breaker.

This (if true) is the only part that matters.

It tells me that we will have to re-engage again.

Sooner better than later, IMHO.
 

So by my informal count there are at least four different versions of the Iran "deal," and they are all contradictory...and only one of the four versions comes from people who know WTF it says. (But it will be made public in a few days).

The Prez and JDV are saying that Iran gets NOTHING until it starts to DO what it promised to do (e.g., open the infamous strait), it has agreed to kill its nuclear program - details to be worked out - and the U.S. is giving them NOT ONE DIME of taxpayer money. "We" will set up an investment fund for OTHERS to invest in Iran's rebuilding, and we might plan it, but NO U.S. DOLLARS(!).

The Democrats (who are evil and scorn the Truth) say that part of the "deal" is that WE are giving Iran THREE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS (presumably of U.S. taxpayer money), and Isn't that outrageous?!! And of course, this "deal" is no different, and certainly no better than the Obama deal of a few years ago. One minor point: Trump intends to treat the final "deal" as a treaty and seek Senate approval, as required by the U.S. Constitution. Obama never gave that a thought, so his deal was B.S. from the start.

The Iranians are saying (of course) that THEY FORCED THE U.S. INTO THIS DEAL, and part of it is that Israel MUST GET OUT OF SOUTHERN LEBANON, and must be kind to the Iranian proxies, Hamas, the Hooters, and Hezhollah. If Israel attacks any of the foregoing - even in retaliation - it is a deal breaker. But of course, if Iran attacks Israel, that is just Business As Usual, and not a deal breaker at all.

The Israeli's are saying that Trump appears to have betrayed them by not demanding that Iran STOP funding its proxies who are terrorizing Israel continually. But I think Vance hinted that we DID demand that Iran stop this bullshit. Not sure.

In any event, we have yet another situation where everyone with a word to say is saying it, with or without anything to back it up, and the MEDIA TREATS IT ALL AS NEWS, with one source equally valid as any other.

I hate it when they do this. It is not "breaking news" when some asshole renders an ignorant opinion about something where he does not know the facts. That is not news it is gossip.

What is a mother to believe?
Trump won't release it, just like his tax returns and the Epstein files.
 
And this is what DGS49 does: "when some asshole renders an ignorant opinion about something where he does not know the facts. That is not news it is gossip."
 

So by my informal count there are at least four different versions of the Iran "deal," and they are all contradictory...and only one of the four versions comes from people who know WTF it says. (But it will be made public in a few days).

The Prez and JDV are saying that Iran gets NOTHING until it starts to DO what it promised to do (e.g., open the infamous strait), it has agreed to kill its nuclear program - details to be worked out - and the U.S. is giving them NOT ONE DIME of taxpayer money. "We" will set up an investment fund for OTHERS to invest in Iran's rebuilding, and we might plan it, but NO U.S. DOLLARS(!).

The Democrats (who are evil and scorn the Truth) say that part of the "deal" is that WE are giving Iran THREE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS (presumably of U.S. taxpayer money), and Isn't that outrageous?!! And of course, this "deal" is no different, and certainly no better than the Obama deal of a few years ago. One minor point: Trump intends to treat the final "deal" as a treaty and seek Senate approval, as required by the U.S. Constitution. Obama never gave that a thought, so his deal was B.S. from the start.

The Iranians are saying (of course) that THEY FORCED THE U.S. INTO THIS DEAL, and part of it is that Israel MUST GET OUT OF SOUTHERN LEBANON, and must be kind to the Iranian proxies, Hamas, the Hooters, and Hezhollah. If Israel attacks any of the foregoing - even in retaliation - it is a deal breaker. But of course, if Iran attacks Israel, that is just Business As Usual, and not a deal breaker at all.

The Israeli's are saying that Trump appears to have betrayed them by not demanding that Iran STOP funding its proxies who are terrorizing Israel continually. But I think Vance hinted that we DID demand that Iran stop this bullshit. Not sure.

In any event, we have yet another situation where everyone with a word to say is saying it, with or without anything to back it up, and the MEDIA TREATS IT ALL AS NEWS, with one source equally valid as any other.

I hate it when they do this. It is not "breaking news" when some asshole renders an ignorant opinion about something where he does not know the facts. That is not news it is gossip.

What is a mother to believe?
Oh come on. First, Obama didn't send Iran any taxpayer money. He gave them their own money back. Trump has already started that.


Up to twenty billion dollars to be released, about ten times what Obama let go.

The uranium, well somehow, now we don't need to worry about it. Which begs the question, why did we ever worry about it. And the Strait, Iran is going to implement fees, which is why you are not seeing the agreement.
 
Oh come on. First, Obama didn't send Iran any taxpayer money. He gave them their own money back. Trump has already started that.


Up to twenty billion dollars to be released, about ten times what Obama let go.

The uranium, well somehow, now we don't need to worry about it. Which begs the question, why did we ever worry about it. And the Strait, Iran is going to implement fees, which is why you are not seeing the agreement.
Fake ******* news, and even your link betrays your allegation.

"Unlock" means Iran's assets were "frozen" and held.

It's not a gift by Trump or anyone else to "unlock" their frozen assets as certain "conditions" are met.
 
As a person who spent an entire career writing and negotiating MOU's, contracts, and other deals, I welcomed Trump's approach to that stuff. American politicians are always disadvantaged in these negotiations because they were afraid to come out of the negotiations without a deal. Our adversaries took advantage of this shortcoming, which is what begat the JCPOA.

Now Trump has backed himself into THE SAME FCUKING CORNER! He is afraid NOT to come up with a "deal," even if it's a bad one. And the Iranians are taking advantage of this, and the coming of the mid-terms.
 

So by my informal count there are at least four different versions of the Iran "deal," and they are all contradictory...and only one of the four versions comes from people who know WTF it says. (But it will be made public in a few days).

The Prez and JDV are saying that Iran gets NOTHING until it starts to DO what it promised to do (e.g., open the infamous strait), it has agreed to kill its nuclear program - details to be worked out - and the U.S. is giving them NOT ONE DIME of taxpayer money. "We" will set up an investment fund for OTHERS to invest in Iran's rebuilding, and we might plan it, but NO U.S. DOLLARS(!).

The Democrats (who are evil and scorn the Truth) say that part of the "deal" is that WE are giving Iran THREE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS (presumably of U.S. taxpayer money), and Isn't that outrageous?!! And of course, this "deal" is no different, and certainly no better than the Obama deal of a few years ago. One minor point: Trump intends to treat the final "deal" as a treaty and seek Senate approval, as required by the U.S. Constitution. Obama never gave that a thought, so his deal was B.S. from the start.

The Iranians are saying (of course) that THEY FORCED THE U.S. INTO THIS DEAL, and part of it is that Israel MUST GET OUT OF SOUTHERN LEBANON, and must be kind to the Iranian proxies, Hamas, the Hooters, and Hezhollah. If Israel attacks any of the foregoing - even in retaliation - it is a deal breaker. But of course, if Iran attacks Israel, that is just Business As Usual, and not a deal breaker at all.

The Israeli's are saying that Trump appears to have betrayed them by not demanding that Iran STOP funding its proxies who are terrorizing Israel continually. But I think Vance hinted that we DID demand that Iran stop this bullshit. Not sure.

In any event, we have yet another situation where everyone with a word to say is saying it, with or without anything to back it up, and the MEDIA TREATS IT ALL AS NEWS, with one source equally valid as any other.

I hate it when they do this. It is not "breaking news" when some asshole renders an ignorant opinion about something where he does not know the facts. That is not news it is gossip.

What is a mother to believe?
How would Valerie Jarrett negotiate a deal with the Iranians?
 
As a person who spent an entire career writing and negotiating MOU's, contracts, and other deals, I welcomed Trump's approach to that stuff. American politicians are always disadvantaged in these negotiations because they were afraid to come out of the negotiations without a deal. Our adversaries took advantage of this shortcoming, which is what begat the JCPOA.

Now Trump has backed himself into THE SAME FCUKING CORNER! He is afraid NOT to come up with a "deal," even if it's a bad one. And the Iranians are taking advantage of this, and the coming of the mid-terms.
Agree or not, I hope that team Trump sees and heeds the warning.
 

So by my informal count there are at least four different versions of the Iran "deal," and they are all contradictory...and only one of the four versions comes from people who know WTF it says. (But it will be made public in a few days).

The Prez and JDV are saying that Iran gets NOTHING until it starts to DO what it promised to do (e.g., open the infamous strait), it has agreed to kill its nuclear program - details to be worked out - and the U.S. is giving them NOT ONE DIME of taxpayer money. "We" will set up an investment fund for OTHERS to invest in Iran's rebuilding, and we might plan it, but NO U.S. DOLLARS(!).

The Democrats (who are evil and scorn the Truth) say that part of the "deal" is that WE are giving Iran THREE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS (presumably of U.S. taxpayer money), and Isn't that outrageous?!! And of course, this "deal" is no different, and certainly no better than the Obama deal of a few years ago. One minor point: Trump intends to treat the final "deal" as a treaty and seek Senate approval, as required by the U.S. Constitution. Obama never gave that a thought, so his deal was B.S. from the start.

The Iranians are saying (of course) that THEY FORCED THE U.S. INTO THIS DEAL, and part of it is that Israel MUST GET OUT OF SOUTHERN LEBANON, and must be kind to the Iranian proxies, Hamas, the Hooters, and Hezhollah. If Israel attacks any of the foregoing - even in retaliation - it is a deal breaker. But of course, if Iran attacks Israel, that is just Business As Usual, and not a deal breaker at all.

The Israeli's are saying that Trump appears to have betrayed them by not demanding that Iran STOP funding its proxies who are terrorizing Israel continually. But I think Vance hinted that we DID demand that Iran stop this bullshit. Not sure.

In any event, we have yet another situation where everyone with a word to say is saying it, with or without anything to back it up, and the MEDIA TREATS IT ALL AS NEWS, with one source equally valid as any other.

I hate it when they do this. It is not "breaking news" when some asshole renders an ignorant opinion about something where he does not know the facts. That is not news it is gossip.

What is a mother to believe?

Dunno what it is.
But YT says it is not a deal; it is an agreement to discuss things. And Israel won't participate in it.


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Dunno what it is.
But YT says it is not a deal; it is an agreement to discuss things. And Israel won't participate in it.


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Israel is the wild card.

I think it is a brilliant move if my hunch is correct.

U.S. will back out and let Israel take the lead as Iran is militarily weakened.

Israel can even afford for Iran to make the first move towards further provocation, which we all know Iran will do.
 
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