Are you born gay?

[MissileMan]

Do you suppose the liberal-homosexual-feminist agenda has anything to do with that?

Why is the concept of individual responsibility thrown out the window when someone such as yourself wants to attack a group you don't like?

 

[Kagom]

Why is the concept of individual responsibility thrown out the window when someone such as yourself wants to attack a group you don't like?

Her counterpoint regarding the divorce rate was a cop-out and full of shit.

 

[glockmail]

Why is the concept of individual responsibility thrown out the window when someone such as yourself wants to attack a group you don't like?

Give me a clue- what do you mean by "individual responsibility thrown out the window"?

Perhaps you could point out where I have attacked anyone. All I've done is expose the truth.

 

[glockmail]

Her counterpoint regarding the divorce rate was a cop-out and full of shit.

Could you be more specific?

 

[MissileMan]

Give me a clue- what do you mean by "individual responsibility thrown out the window"?

Perhaps you could point out where I have attacked anyone. All I've done is expose the truth.

Don't start your "what did I say?" bullshit with me! You specifically stated that hetero-divorce might be the result of the liberal-homosexual-feminist agenda. Your allegation attempts to shift responsibility from the married individuals who decide they no longer want to live as a couple to groups who have no impact on that couple's relationship.

 

[manu1959]

Give me a clue- what do you mean by "individual responsibility thrown out the window"?

Perhaps you could point out where I have attacked anyone. All I've done is expose the truth.

perhaps you could indictae where you have behaved responsibly and ponit out where you haven't attacked people and provide links to your opinions you claim are the truth....

 

[glockmail]

Don't start your "what did I say?" bulls[--] with me! .....

You'll have to calm down and act more civilly if you wish me to respond.:talk2:

 

[MissileMan]

You'll have to calm down and act more civilly if you wish me to respond.:talk2:

Just for you!

You specifically stated that hetero-divorce might be the result of the liberal-homosexual-feminist agenda. Your allegation attempts to shift responsibility from the married individuals who decide they no longer want to live as a couple to groups who have no impact on that couple's relationship.

 

[glockmail]

perhaps you could indictae where you have behaved responsibly and ponit out where you haven't attacked people and provide links to your opinions you claim are the truth....

Wow! Do you want to re-try?

Am I the only one here who sees the logistical incongruities in this post?
:huh:

 

[glockmail]

Just for you!

You specifically stated that hetero-divorce might be the result of the liberal-homosexual-feminist agenda. Your allegation attempts to shift responsibility from the married individuals who decide they no longer want to live as a couple to groups who have no impact on that couple's relationship.

Much better! Isn’t it nice to be nice?

The liberal agenda puts zero value on personal responsibility. The homosexual agenda encourages perverted sexuality with numerous partners and no intellectual commitments. The feminist manifesto tells women that their relationships with men are unimportant. All three have had an effect on a significant portion of society.

 

[jillian]

Am I the only one here who sees the logistical incongruities in this post?:huh:

Yes.

 

[MissileMan]

The liberal agenda puts zero value on personal responsibility.

As do you apparently. How would this effect the divorce rate of conservatives? Why isn't the couple responsible for the demise of THEIR relationship?

The homosexual agenda encourages perverted sexuality with numerous partners and no intellectual commitments.

Well, this might very well have an effect on the homosexual divorce rate, but you're stuck with a small problem...I'll bet you can guess what that is.

The feminist manifesto tells women that their relationships with men are unimportant. All three have had an effect on a significant portion of society.

Again, this might have some effect on the divorce rate of feminists, but you have failed to demonstrate to even a microscopic degree how any of the three should be an acceptable excuse as to why your average, run-of-the-mill couple are getting a divorce.

Is it your contention that the percentage of liberals and feminists that are getting divorced is hugely out of proportion to the percentages of other groups? I'd like to see the links that support that.

 

[Gunny]

Nothing hypocritical about it. If anything, the church is acting hypocritical. Why should they be allowed to discriminate?

Bullshit. You SPs demand all vestiges of religion be removed from anything that has anything to do with the government; yet, you think it just fine to interject the government into the church? Yet, you call the church hypocritical? Get a clue.

Why shouldn't they be allowed to discriminate? Only government organizations and nutcases feel the need to be PC. Everyone else with a modicum of common sense realizes EVERYONE discriminates EVERY day. Get over it.

At least you're honest about it though. You have no problem with being a hypocrite and forcing your loony-left viewpoints even on the church.

 

[glockmail]

Yes.

Is that the result of a scientific poll or just your usual knee-jerk opinion?

 

[jillian]

As do you apparently. How would this effect the divorce rate of conservatives? Why isn't the couple responsible for the demise of THEIR relationship?


Well, this might very well have an effect on the homosexual divorce rate, but you're stuck with a small problem...I'll bet you can guess what that is.



Again, this might have some effect on the divorce rate of feminists, but you have failed to demonstrate to even a microscopic degree how any of the three should be an acceptable excuse as to why your average, run-of-the-mill couple are getting a divorce.

Is it your contention that the percentage of liberals and feminists that are getting divorced is hugely out of proportion to the percentages of other groups? I'd like to see the links that support that.

There have already been some fairly sizeable research projects on the subject.... this being one of the most well-known and, apparently using some fairly significant data samplings.

http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=BarnaUpdate&BarnaUpdateID=95

 

[Gunny]

As I said to 1549, maybe a fair call, but it jsut reeks of hypocrisy, not just discriminating against them, but the whole "inclusive" aspects of Christianity

The hypocrisy in this case is all on you. And your verision of Christianity is incorrect. It is not "all-inclusive." It is inclusive for Christians and those that want to be Christians. Christians have beliefs and rules, and if you don't go for both, then you don't belong.

You can't have it both ways. If you choose your misinterpretation of the Constitution saying nothing religious can be anywhere near anything government, the same applies in reverse.

 

[glockmail]

As do you apparently. .......

You are really over the top with this post.:tdown2:

 

[glockmail]

There have already been some fairly sizeable research projects on the subject.... this being one of the most well-known and, apparently using some fairly significant data samplings.

http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=BarnaUpdate&BarnaUpdateID=95

You are so good at finding articles that have nothing to do with the issue raised!

 

[Gunny]

I understand Christians perfectly. And I'm not pissed at them. Can't think of one time when I've ever been pissed at the religion, only those that would try and make laws based on Christianity...

Our laws are based on Judeo-Christian ethic. Deny it all you want, but that's just the way it is.

A bigger problem is if common sense happens to agree with Christianity, we lose the benefit of that law due to the likes of you who can't see the common sense, only the Christianity.

 

[Gunny]

It's a tough call. I'd be inclined to agree that it's infringement of your rights, but children are susceptible to many teachings of things that are wrong being ok. I was always told the job of the parent was to monitor and correct these misteachings. I will admit it would be easier to raise my future children if the country were just a crackerjack version of my personal morality, but alas I don't see that happening.

That they are susceptible to being taught things that are wrong are okay doesn't justify teaching them more.

And that parent thing is a cop-out. Parents do the best they can, but cannot hope to compete with society and peer pressure.

Beyond any of that, however, is the simple difference that a homocidal sociopath, by definition, infringes on rights. A homosexual, by definition, doesn't.

In YOUR opinion. In my opinion, both infringe on the rights of others.