Are you born gay?

[Dr Grump]

The law does not and should not cater to every dorkwad with screwball behavior that comes along.

As they are consenting adults, absolutely they should. Who cares? The idea of two homos banging away disgusts me. However, unlike most conservatives who talk the talk, I walk the walk when it comes to personal freedoms. Yet some say I'm the liberal..go figure...

 

[manu1959]

Nothing ass backward about it all. You can marry any adult person where there is mutual attraction. They cannot...

not true they can go to the Episcopal church in san francisco and get married tomorrow

 

[Gunny]

As they are consenting adults, absolutely they should. Who cares? The idea of two homos banging away disgusts me. However, unlike most conservatives who talk the talk, I walk the walk when it comes to personal freedoms. Yet some say I'm the liberal..go figure...

Well, unlike most liberals who can't differentiate between laws affording special rights based on aberrant beahvior and my giving a damn what said abnormal people do in the privacy of their own home, please spare attempting to take the hight ground.

What you want is to cater to an aberrant minority. I don't. THAT would be the difference.

 

[Dr Grump]

not true they can go to the Episcopal church in san francisco and get married tomorrow

Legally?

 

[Dr Grump]

Well, unlike most liberals who can't differentiate between laws affording special rights based on aberrant beahvior and my giving a damn what said abnormal people do in the privacy of their own home, please spare attempting to take the hight ground.

What you want is to cater to an aberrant minority. I don't. THAT would be the difference.

They don't want special rights, and you calling it so is disingenuous. Of course I have the high ground. I'm giving them the opportunity to live life in persuit of happiness etc. Listen, if they were doing something that would affect me in a personal way, you and I would be on the same page. They don't. It's only other people's intolerence that is the problem.

 

[dilloduck]

As they are consenting adults, absolutely they should. Who cares? The idea of two homos banging away disgusts me. However, unlike most conservatives who talk the talk, I walk the walk when it comes to personal freedoms. Yet some say I'm the liberal..go figure...

And just how will married homosexuals make a damn bit of difference to your precious personal life style? Married or unmarried, your life won't change a bit. You only argue for thier rights as a way of defending you right to do anything you want, totally free from all restrictions.

The reality is that we all can't do that without creating a chaos that only the strongest,most powerful and richest would survive.

 

[manu1959]

Legally?

oh .... you don't want the religious piece of paper

.... you want the civil union marriage licences the govt. gives you .... so you can get health care, social security benifits, visit them in the hospital and inherit their fortune when they die....those are the rights you want?

an attorney and a san francisco address can get you all that

 

[Dr Grump]

And just how will married homosexuals make a damn bit of difference to your precious personal life style? Married or unmarried, your life won't change a bit. You only argue for thier rights as a way of defending you right to do anything you want, totally free from all restrictions.

The reality is that we all can't do that without creating a chaos that only the strongest,most powerful and richest would survive.

Oh brother.....

 

[Dr Grump]

oh .... you don't want the religious piece of paper

.... you want the civil union marriage licences the govt. gives you .... so you can get health care, social security benifits, visit them in the hospital and inherit their fortune when they die....those are the rights you want?

an attorney and a san francisco address can get you all that

Nope, I want them to have the religious piece of paper...and the other rights, too...may as well go the distance!

 

[Annie]

Nope, I want them to have the religious piece of paper...and the other rights, too...may as well go the distance!

So you want to force churches to accept your morality? In my previous example, I was stating what those in 'love' and 'committed' did, under barbarous conditions did, and still managed to serve the next generation. Neither you nor those you 'champion' are about the future, just about 'me.'

 

[Gunny]

They don't want special rights, and you calling it so is disingenuous. Of course I have the high ground. I'm giving them the opportunity to live life in persuit of happiness etc. Listen, if they were doing something that would affect me in a personal way, you and I would be on the same page. They don't. It's only other people's intolerence that is the problem.

Nothing disingenuous about my argument. Disingenuous is trying to say they don't want special rights when that is EXACTLY what they want. They want their aberrant sexual behavior to define them legally, and they want the law to grant them a right that caters solely to their aberrant behavior. Don't know what else you can call that.

There's a big difference between intolerance and catering to aberrance that you obviously keep missing.

 

[Annie]

Nothing disingenuous about my argument. Disingenuous is trying to say they don't want special rights when that is EXACTLY what they want. They want their aberrant sexual behavior to define them legally, and they want the law to grant them a right that caters solely to their aberrant behavior. Don't know what else you can call that.

There's a big difference between intolerance and catering to aberrance that you obviously keep missing.

Yup. Well said.

 

[Gunny]

Nope, I want them to have the religious piece of paper...and the other rights, too...may as well go the distance!

See what I mean? You scream like a banshee when the church even looks at a government building; yet, you're more than happy to force your government on my church.

Typical liberal hypocrisy.

 

[Dr Grump]

So you want to force churches to accept your morality?

Lotsa homos are god fearing too...

Neither you nor those you 'champion' are about the future, just about 'me.'

In your opinion.

 

[dilloduck]

Oh brother.....

Grump----you could give a rats' ass about whether homosexuals are married or not. Fess up to your true agenda here.

 

[Annie]

In your opinion.

Nope, in your postings.

 

[Dr Grump]

See what I mean? You scream like a banshee when the church even looks at a government building; yet, you're more than happy to force your government on my church.

Typical liberal hypocrisy.

Nothing hypocritical about it. If anything, the church is acting hypocritical. Why should they be allowed to discriminate?

 

[Dr Grump]

Grump----you could give a rats' ass about whether homosexuals are married or not. Fess up to your true agenda here.

Which is?

 

[Dr Grump]

Nope, in your postings.

Wanting people to have rights is now about "It's all about me"? Interesting take. You are wrong of course, but intersting take nonetheless..

 

[manu1959]

Nothing hypocritical about it. If anything, the church is acting hypocritical. Why should they be allowed to discriminate?

look....i can't get married in mecca unless i convert...nor in st peter's nor in a synagogue in israel.....get over it.....the gays have their own churches as well as do blacks.....

why should churches have to accept govt rules.....sep of church and state after all