Are US Cities Doomed?

Meathead

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Given the widespread infections, mind-boggling homelessness and now mob rule that is turning America's cities into veritable cesspools, or shitholes if you prefer, will these liberal bastions become totally abandoned to the likes of their sleazy denizens as the remaining middle-class people flee for more livable and safer conditions?

This would leave a heavily-policed downtown area for tourists and a few businesses that choose to remain. This to some extent has already happened.

Is there anything that can be done, or are these the final nail in a figurative urban coffin?
 
Given the widespread infections, mind-boggling homelessness and now mob rule that is turning America's cities into veritable cesspools, or shitholes if you prefer, will these liberal bastions become totally abandoned to the likes of their sleazy denizens as the remaining middle-class people flee for more livable and safer conditions?

This would leave a heavily-policed downtown area for tourists and a few businesses that choose to remain. This to some extent has already happened.

Is there anything that can be done, or are these the final nail in a figurative urban coffin?
Meanwhile your kids in Hooterville and Mayberry have to come to our cities to find work. No jobs at the piggly wiggly and Walmart is the only employer in your town.

If you can get the corporations to move from the cities to your communities, maybe you'd have something here.

P.S. The states that opened up early are having the most outbreaks in coronavirus cases. Red states. Good luck.
 
No. WORLD cities are doomed
Lets be honest. If we woke up tomorrow and every person in every major city were gone, we'd have a much better planet. And that includes the major cities in China, India, America.

I believe we are overpopulated so I think it would be a good thing for the human race and planet and other animals we share this planet with. Whales, dolphins, tigers, polar bears, etc.... They/we would all benefit.
 
Given the widespread infections, mind-boggling homelessness and now mob rule that is turning America's cities into veritable cesspools, or shitholes if you prefer, will these liberal bastions become totally abandoned to the likes of their sleazy denizens as the remaining middle-class people flee for more livable and safer conditions?

This would leave a heavily-policed downtown area for tourists and a few businesses that choose to remain. This to some extent has already happened.

Is there anything that can be done, or are these the final nail in a figurative urban coffin?
Meanwhile your kids in Hooterville and Mayberry have to come to our cities to find work. No jobs at the piggly wiggly and Walmart is the only employer in your town.

If you can get the corporations to move from the cities to your communities, maybe you'd have something here.

P.S. The states that opened up early are having the most outbreaks in coronavirus cases. Red states. Good luck.
You are a bigot....you have become exactly what you have always hated....
 
Given the widespread infections, mind-boggling homelessness and now mob rule that is turning America's cities into veritable cesspools, or shitholes if you prefer, will these liberal bastions become totally abandoned to the likes of their sleazy denizens as the remaining middle-class people flee for more livable and safer conditions?

This would leave a heavily-policed downtown area for tourists and a few businesses that choose to remain. This to some extent has already happened.

Is there anything that can be done, or are these the final nail in a figurative urban coffin?
Meanwhile your kids in Hooterville and Mayberry have to come to our cities to find work. No jobs at the piggly wiggly and Walmart is the only employer in your town.

If you can get the corporations to move from the cities to your communities, maybe you'd have something here.

P.S. The states that opened up early are having the most outbreaks in coronavirus cases. Red states. Good luck.
I have one child in Prague. This is a city but not a shithole. It is safe, orderly and beautiful. I would discourage him from seeking employment in a US city when the time comes.

My question stands. Can America's cities be saved, or will they permanently become dangerous cesspools.
 
Given the widespread infections, mind-boggling homelessness and now mob rule that is turning America's cities into veritable cesspools, or shitholes if you prefer, will these liberal bastions become totally abandoned to the likes of their sleazy denizens as the remaining middle-class people flee for more livable and safer conditions?

This would leave a heavily-policed downtown area for tourists and a few businesses that choose to remain. This to some extent has already happened.

Is there anything that can be done, or are these the final nail in a figurative urban coffin?
Maybe technology, and populations have outgrown the usefulness of the classic city model.
 
Given the widespread infections, mind-boggling homelessness and now mob rule that is turning America's cities into veritable cesspools, or shitholes if you prefer, will these liberal bastions become totally abandoned to the likes of their sleazy denizens as the remaining middle-class people flee for more livable and safer conditions?

This would leave a heavily-policed downtown area for tourists and a few businesses that choose to remain. This to some extent has already happened.

Is there anything that can be done, or are these the final nail in a figurative urban coffin?
Meanwhile your kids in Hooterville and Mayberry have to come to our cities to find work. No jobs at the piggly wiggly and Walmart is the only employer in your town.

If you can get the corporations to move from the cities to your communities, maybe you'd have something here.

P.S. The states that opened up early are having the most outbreaks in coronavirus cases. Red states. Good luck.

The thing is, with people getting comfortable with remote working, both employers and employees, those kids may not have to move anymore, and some of them may decide to move back.

If you only have to go into work once a week, your range of living location increases exponentially. A person might be willing to drive 150 miles each way at that point.
 
We have a long way to go before reaching the level of shithole of the city you live in OP. Tourist areas are nice, but wander outside of them and you are literally constantly smelling and breathing raw sewage from always broken lines under the streets and sidewalks. And you talk about shit holes. Here in America when a sewer pipes breaks we fix it right away. Your city of Praha, Prague is a world-class genuine for real shit hole.
 
We have a long way to go before reaching the level of shithole of the city you live in OP. Tourist areas are nice, but wander outside of them and you are literally constantly smelling and breathing raw sewage from always broken lines under the streets and sidewalks. And you talk about shit holes. Here in America when a sewer pipes breaks we fix it right away. Your city of Praha, Prague is a world-class genuine for real shit hole.
You never wandered outside the "tourist" areas, obviously.

Camp, you bring this shit on yourself being the low-life you are.
 
We have a long way to go before reaching the level of shithole of the city you live in OP. Tourist areas are nice, but wander outside of them and you are literally constantly smelling and breathing raw sewage from always broken lines under the streets and sidewalks. And you talk about shit holes. Here in America when a sewer pipes breaks we fix it right away. Your city of Praha, Prague is a world-class genuine for real shit hole.
Surrounding areas around my city are great. In good ole Greenville South Carolina.
 
Given the widespread infections, mind-boggling homelessness and now mob rule that is turning America's cities into veritable cesspools, or shitholes if you prefer, will these liberal bastions become totally abandoned to the likes of their sleazy denizens as the remaining middle-class people flee for more livable and safer conditions?

This would leave a heavily-policed downtown area for tourists and a few businesses that choose to remain. This to some extent has already happened.

Is there anything that can be done, or are these the final nail in a figurative urban coffin?
Meanwhile your kids in Hooterville and Mayberry have to come to our cities to find work. No jobs at the piggly wiggly and Walmart is the only employer in your town.

If you can get the corporations to move from the cities to your communities, maybe you'd have something here.

P.S. The states that opened up early are having the most outbreaks in coronavirus cases. Red states. Good luck.
I have one child in Prague. This is a city but not a shithole. It is safe, orderly and beautiful. I would discourage him from seeking employment in a US city when the time comes.

My question stands. Can America's cities be saved, or will they permanently become dangerous cesspools.
It's a pendulum. 700,000 blacks left Detroit because it is/was a shithole for them. No opportunity for them there anymore. So they are coming out to the suburbs to live with us white people. They will assimilate after a couple generations much like a foreigners kids will.

Blacks make up at most 20% of the population. They don't have enough money to own/control a city on their own. Take for example Detroit. So Detroit like Metro Detroit should be 80% other and 20% black. Then the economic opportunity will come back to cities like that. White flight turned those cities into shitholes. Sending those great union manufacturing jobs too. Long story short, is this is a new normal. Unions are dead. Blue collar no longer makes $30 hr. in these cities. Whites too. So this is true for all people.

If you continue to keep economic opportunities out of American cities, new American cities will pop up. Down south perhaps. Do you think crime won't exist in these future southern cities?
 
We have a long way to go before reaching the level of shithole of the city you live in OP. Tourist areas are nice, but wander outside of them and you are literally constantly smelling and breathing raw sewage from always broken lines under the streets and sidewalks. And you talk about shit holes. Here in America when a sewer pipes breaks we fix it right away. Your city of Praha, Prague is a world-class genuine for real shit hole.
Surrounding areas around my city are great. In good ole Greenville South Carolina.
Call me in 10 years
 
Given the widespread infections, mind-boggling homelessness and now mob rule that is turning America's cities into veritable cesspools, or shitholes if you prefer, will these liberal bastions become totally abandoned to the likes of their sleazy denizens as the remaining middle-class people flee for more livable and safer conditions?

This would leave a heavily-policed downtown area for tourists and a few businesses that choose to remain. This to some extent has already happened.

Is there anything that can be done, or are these the final nail in a figurative urban coffin?
Meanwhile your kids in Hooterville and Mayberry have to come to our cities to find work. No jobs at the piggly wiggly and Walmart is the only employer in your town.

If you can get the corporations to move from the cities to your communities, maybe you'd have something here.

P.S. The states that opened up early are having the most outbreaks in coronavirus cases. Red states. Good luck.

Meanwhile your kids in Hooterville and Mayberry have to come to our cities to find work...."not anymore" -- Hannibal Lecter

NYCity is fucking itself out in the billions column
 
Given the widespread infections, mind-boggling homelessness and now mob rule that is turning America's cities into veritable cesspools, or shitholes if you prefer, will these liberal bastions become totally abandoned to the likes of their sleazy denizens as the remaining middle-class people flee for more livable and safer conditions?

This would leave a heavily-policed downtown area for tourists and a few businesses that choose to remain. This to some extent has already happened.

Is there anything that can be done, or are these the final nail in a figurative urban coffin?
Meanwhile your kids in Hooterville and Mayberry have to come to our cities to find work. No jobs at the piggly wiggly and Walmart is the only employer in your town.

If you can get the corporations to move from the cities to your communities, maybe you'd have something here.

P.S. The states that opened up early are having the most outbreaks in coronavirus cases. Red states. Good luck.
I have one child in Prague. This is a city but not a shithole. It is safe, orderly and beautiful. I would discourage him from seeking employment in a US city when the time comes.

My question stands. Can America's cities be saved, or will they permanently become dangerous cesspools.
It's a pendulum. 700,000 blacks left Detroit because it is/was a shithole for them. No opportunity for them there anymore. So they are coming out to the suburbs to live with us white people. They will assimilate after a couple generations much like a foreigners kids will.

Blacks make up at most 20% of the population. They don't have enough money to own/control a city on their own. Take for example Detroit. So Detroit like Metro Detroit should be 80% other and 20% black. Then the economic opportunity will come back to cities like that. White flight turned those cities into shitholes. Sending those great union manufacturing jobs too. Long story short, is this is a new normal. Unions are dead. Blue collar no longer makes $30 hr. in these cities. Whites too. So this is true for all people.

If you continue to keep economic opportunities out of American cities, new American cities will pop up. Down south perhaps. Do you think crime won't exist in these future southern cities?
You're talking about ancient history. This is in Current Events. Detroit is gone and not coming back. I'm talking about the shitholes of today with their diseases, homelessness and mob rule.
 
We have a long way to go before reaching the level of shithole of the city you live in OP. Tourist areas are nice, but wander outside of them and you are literally constantly smelling and breathing raw sewage from always broken lines under the streets and sidewalks. And you talk about shit holes. Here in America when a sewer pipes breaks we fix it right away. Your city of Praha, Prague is a world-class genuine for real shit hole.
Surrounding areas around my city are great. In good ole Greenville South Carolina.
Call me in 10 years
I will and the land I just bought about 30 miles away from Greenville will triple in value.
 
Given the widespread infections, mind-boggling homelessness and now mob rule that is turning America's cities into veritable cesspools, or shitholes if you prefer, will these liberal bastions become totally abandoned to the likes of their sleazy denizens as the remaining middle-class people flee for more livable and safer conditions?

This would leave a heavily-policed downtown area for tourists and a few businesses that choose to remain. This to some extent has already happened.

Is there anything that can be done, or are these the final nail in a figurative urban coffin?
Meanwhile your kids in Hooterville and Mayberry have to come to our cities to find work. No jobs at the piggly wiggly and Walmart is the only employer in your town.

If you can get the corporations to move from the cities to your communities, maybe you'd have something here.

P.S. The states that opened up early are having the most outbreaks in coronavirus cases. Red states. Good luck.

Meanwhile your kids in Hooterville and Mayberry have to come to our cities to find work...."not anymore" -- Hannibal Lecter

NYCity is fucking itself out in the billions column
The truth is that while blacks are moving out of Detroit because they are poor blacks in the poorest most dangerous neighborhoods, white educated kids are starting to move back to Downtown Detroit. The nicest part. The business district. Expensive gated communities that are well policed are popping up. It's amazing what white people can do when they have economic opportunity. But put them in the shitholes and see if they'd make it out or make something of it. HA!
 
Given the widespread infections, mind-boggling homelessness and now mob rule that is turning America's cities into veritable cesspools, or shitholes if you prefer, will these liberal bastions become totally abandoned to the likes of their sleazy denizens as the remaining middle-class people flee for more livable and safer conditions?

This would leave a heavily-policed downtown area for tourists and a few businesses that choose to remain. This to some extent has already happened.

Is there anything that can be done, or are these the final nail in a figurative urban coffin?
Meanwhile your kids in Hooterville and Mayberry have to come to our cities to find work. No jobs at the piggly wiggly and Walmart is the only employer in your town.

If you can get the corporations to move from the cities to your communities, maybe you'd have something here.

P.S. The states that opened up early are having the most outbreaks in coronavirus cases. Red states. Good luck.
I have one child in Prague. This is a city but not a shithole. It is safe, orderly and beautiful. I would discourage him from seeking employment in a US city when the time comes.

My question stands. Can America's cities be saved, or will they permanently become dangerous cesspools.
It's a pendulum. 700,000 blacks left Detroit because it is/was a shithole for them. No opportunity for them there anymore. So they are coming out to the suburbs to live with us white people. They will assimilate after a couple generations much like a foreigners kids will.

Blacks make up at most 20% of the population. They don't have enough money to own/control a city on their own. Take for example Detroit. So Detroit like Metro Detroit should be 80% other and 20% black. Then the economic opportunity will come back to cities like that. White flight turned those cities into shitholes. Sending those great union manufacturing jobs too. Long story short, is this is a new normal. Unions are dead. Blue collar no longer makes $30 hr. in these cities. Whites too. So this is true for all people.

If you continue to keep economic opportunities out of American cities, new American cities will pop up. Down south perhaps. Do you think crime won't exist in these future southern cities?
You're talking about ancient history. This is in Current Events. Detroit is gone and not coming back. I'm talking about the shitholes of today with their diseases, homelessness and mob rule.
You don't know what you are talking about. Downtown Detroit is booming and many poor neighborhoods are being demolished and turned into expensive condos for young suburbanites.

Now 70% of Detroit is still a shithole but Metro Detroit is doing alright. We still have a lot of manufacturing here so while you think Michigan sucks we are actually doing ok even after you CONS sent all our high paying union manufacturing jobs to China and Mexico.

You tried to kill us but didn't
 

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