(Israel) Exploding Pagers In Lebanon! Is This Terrorism? | Candace Ep 67

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Yes, there's a massive discrepancy in the narrative given by the Israeli gubmint....What else is new?

Even so, the main point still stands: they're fighting with barbarians who don't make a distinction between civilians, children, and actual armed combatants...Wringing one's hands over children getting killed amongst fiends like that is foolhardy, IMO.

Because of the fact that Palestinian resistance to Israel historically has included Christians and non-Hamas people…. I cannot view All Palestine resistance as barbaric.

By the way, very important point I recognize that there are good people on both the Israel and Palestine side. And there’s also bad people.

Oct 7 was a bad situation. And even if Israel officials looked the other way to allow the attack to happen for political purposes …… some of the Hamas members killed innocent Israelis and that is wrong. That is part of the conflicts going back decades though. To that point, it is very crucial to keep in mind that Palestinians do not have access to a conventional military like Israel does. Israel, although a small country has one of the most ferocious military in the world with nuclear capability. Might even argue that her members have engaged and attacking civilians in the same manner that Zionist did British civilians before 1948. They’re doing anything they can’t even if it is viewed as monstrous. Now btw Hamas has actually inflicted a higher ratio of casualties toward Israeli military personnel compared to civilians. When we compare how Israel has inflicted casualties on Hamas militants compared to Palestinian civilians at least three guards to the aftermath of October 7.



I certainly would agree that some of the Hamas members and some Palestinians are barbaric. But we can also see that some of these Jews are and have been barbaric. Think of the hilltop youth who believe that the Jewish Torah allows them or even encourages them to kill non-Jews. The existence of Israel, prior creation of Israel, Zionists, who have conducted what many would call terrorist attacks against British civilians and Arab civilians.

Now all of that said, I would probably agree that Israel is dealing with a situation in Gaza that can lead to way more civilian deaths. But that’s not the case in Lebanon and even an Israeli spokesperson on Pierce Morgan admitted that.

I have to stress about this idea of Israel invading Lebanon. That’s a whole different ballgame. First of all Israel control is Gaza. They control the water supply and food supply in Gaza. They don’t have that same ability with Lebanon, which is an independent country. And again Lebanon is almost half Christian, so Israel is going to have an optics problem With regards to their situation in Lebanon.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Did I say that the sub-human scum were only on one side?

I don't care about any of them, TBH.

OK, so this remark you made, applies equally to Israel and Hamas?

I couldn't care less about any directives, when you're dealing with sub-human scum....They don't play by any rules, so fuckem.

 

[White 6]

What do you think the fact that Lebanon is almost half Christian and how it ties into this situation…. Israel has an optics problem here. They cannot play that dumb Muslim card, which they shouldn’t play anyways when they do with Palestine or some of the other countries. They can’t do that with Lebanon there’s tons of fellow Christians in Lebanon.

There was an Israeli spokesperson who was saying that unlike Hamas ..Hezbollah does not hide by civilians. This guy is a major Israel supporter. He was on Pierce Morgan.



But to his point, even with that precision operation by Israel in Lebanon kids got hurt and even killed.

We need to address this idea of American exceptionalism by the way. I think sometimes we view these foreign events as like a video game. What happened in Lebanon is very serious and could lead to a regional war.

Think about the precedent of this operation by the mossad . This has nothing to do with taking sides in the Israel Palestine conflict with regard to this point. Imagine for a moment how we the American people would react if thousands of pagers , cell phones or laptop devices exploded simultaneously across the country killing or wounding innocent bystandards. How would we as a country react to it? I bet you right now that a lot of us would want to go to war. What do you think that the people Lebanon feel about this?

I doubt the Christian half is majorly in the Hezbollah Militia. By in large, the Christian are probably less vulnerable, is what I figure.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

You're right to bring up Christians.

It's little known that in 1948 many Palestinian villages that were subjected to ethnic cleansing by the Zionists were Christian villages, and had been since the earliest days of Christianity.

The Zionists even defied their own courts and evicted people and destroyed the village on Christmas day, to add insult to injury; they eeven forced the mayor of the village to watch as the buildings were blown up.

These are amongst the oldest remnants of early Christianity, the Zionists have nothing but contempt for others.

I’m well aware of the Christian history of Palestine. Thank you for bringing up those informative points.

There are a small portion of Americans who actually believe that the entire Middle East is Muslim. They don’t understand that almost half of Lebanon is Christian. Upwards of 25% of Iraq prior to America’s involvement in the first gulf war was Christian. Siri took this day as some 10% Christian. There’s a lot of Christians in Egypt.

Now there are issues between Christians and Muslims and some of the Muslim majority countries. But the fact of the matter is that many many Arab Christians are upset with Israeli actions. This was noticed, for example, when Ted Cruz visited an Arab Christian conference and praised Israel maybe 5 years ago. He was booed largely by the Arab Christian crowd for doing that.

 

[Oddball]

Because of the fact that Palestinian resistance to Israel historically has included Christians and non-Hamas people…. I cannot view All Palestine resistance as barbaric.

By the way, very important point I recognize that there are good people on both the Israel and Palestine side. And there’s also bad people.

Oct 7 was a bad situation. And even if Israel officials looked the other way to allow the attack to happen for political purposes …… some of the Hamas members killed innocent Israelis and that is wrong. That is part of the conflicts going back decades though. To that point, it is very crucial to keep in mind that Palestinians do not have access to a conventional military like Israel does. Israel, although a small country has one of the most ferocious military in the world with nuclear capability. Might even argue that her members have engaged and attacking civilians in the same manner that Zionist did British civilians before 1948. They’re doing anything they can’t even if it is viewed as monstrous. Now btw Hamas has actually inflicted a higher ratio of casualties toward Israeli military personnel compared to civilians. When we compare how Israel has inflicted casualties on Hamas militants compared to Palestinian civilians at least three guards to the aftermath of October 7.



I certainly would agree that some of the Hamas members and some Palestinians are barbaric. But we can also see that some of these Jews are and have been barbaric. Think of the hilltop youth who believe that the Jewish Torah allows them or even encourages them to kill non-Jews. The existence of Israel, prior creation of Israel, Zionists, who have conducted what many would call terrorist attacks against British civilians and Arab civilians.

Now all of that said, I would probably agree that Israel is dealing with a situation in Gaza that can lead to way more civilian deaths. But that’s not the case in Lebanon and even an Israeli spokesperson on Pierce Morgan admitted that.

I have to stress about this idea of Israel invading Lebanon. That’s a whole different ballgame. First of all Israel control is Gaza. They control the water supply and food supply in Gaza. They don’t have that same ability with Lebanon, which is an independent country. And again Lebanon is almost half Christian, so Israel is going to have an optics problem With regards to their situation in Lebanon.

The "good people" on the Pali side hide in cowardice, rather than throw off the jihadists who are decidedly in the minority of the populace.

You don't want mass violence in your midst, then get the perpetrators of it out of your population.

 

[Oddball]

OK, so this remark you made, applies equally to Israel and Hamas?

Absolutely.

Warfare is the ultimate in lies and manipulation....They can exterminate one another for all I care.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

I doubt the Christian half is majorly in the Hezbollah Militia. By in large, the Christian are probably less vulnerable, is what I figure.

But you can’t escape the fact that Lebanon has a massive Christian population. And some of the Hezbollah on the lines are Christian.

If Israel thinks it’s going to invade Lebanon, they’re going to have a big optics problem. We’re regards to the large Christian population of Lebanon. They cannot pull their dumb old “oh they are Muslims we are helping the west” card

 

[rylah]

I doubt the Christian half is majorly in the Hezbollah Militia. By in large, the Christian are probably less vulnerable, is what I figure.

Half?

Maronites have basically declared a war on them.
The Christians are Hezbolla's main enemies in Lebanon.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

The "good people" on the Pali side hide in cowardice, rather than throw off the jihadists who are decidedly in the minority of the populace.

You don't want mass violence in your midst, then get the perpetrators of it out of your population.

Right now there is no access to a conventional military in Palestine. And so Palestinian militance are basically doing what Zionist militants did in 1948. 1948 and before that Zionist militants were attacking British civilians. Using the same tactics Hamas does today

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Half?

Maronites have basically declared a war on them.
The Christians are Hezbolla's main enemies in Lebanon.

That is not accurate. There are a lot of Christians in the Lebanese military. And right now Lebanon is very upset with Israel. The general consensus throughout all of Lebanon from the Lebanese Christians and Muslims is that they are upset with Israel. Come on man. I know Maronite Catholics from Lebanon who live in the Buffalo area. They are not pro-Israel people.


You don’t need to engage in hyperbole. Israel has its reasons for attacking Lebanon, but you don’t need to engage in the hyperbole.

 

[rylah]

That is not accurate. There are a lot of Christians in the Lebanese military. And right now Lebanon is very upset with Israel. The general consensus throughout all of Lebanon from the Lebanese Christians and Muslims is that they are upset with Israel. Come on man.


You don’t need to engage in hyperbole. Israel has its reasons for attacking Lebanon, but you don’t need to engage in the hyperbole.

Wow, you really need to learn the topic.

The Lebanese military is not Hezbolla,

and it's the Christian Maronites in

the Lebanese army who see

Hezbolla as the enemy.

Lebanon, Kamil Shimon: 'We will take 20,000 armed men
to the streets against Hezbollah'​

The war against Hezbollah is a central discourse in Lebanon and as we get closer to the moment of truth there are quite a few of Hezbollah's enemies who are preparing for Israel's attack on Hezbollah in order to fight against Hezbollah as well.

Kamil Shimon, a Maronite Christian, who heads the Free Nationalist Party (grandson of the Lebanese president in the 1950s) threatens Hezbollah:

"At dawn, we will take 20,000 armed men to the streets,
except for the soldiers of the Lebanese army."

Christian politician in Lebanon: “We have 20,000 militants, if Hezbollah attacks, we are ready”

Kamil Shimon was interviewed by local media - describing, among other things, a terrorist organization as “the party of Iran” • He blamed Hezbollah for the war, saying “they are the ones who should distribute financial compensation to the residents affected by this”

ground.news

 

[Oddball]

Right now there is no access to a conventional military in Palestine. And so Palestinian militance are basically doing what Zionist militants did in 1948. 1948 and before that Zionist militants were attacking British civilians. Using the same tactics Hamas does today

Tough shit....War sucks.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Half?

Maronites have basically declared a war on them.
The Christians are Hezbolla's main enemies in Lebanon.

Sure in previous conflicts some of the Christians in Lebanon supported Israel. But many of them did not. And certainly today it is a different matter completely. The general consensus across Lebanon is opposition to Israel attacking Lebanon.


I mean there are Jews in the Iranian military there’s like 20,000 Jews living in Iran. So going by your logic….well you get the point

If you’re attempting to say that Christians in Lebanon support Israel, of course that’s entirely wrong. Maybe you’re not saying that, but you need to not omit these facts in your post above.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Wow, you really need to learn the topic.

The Lebanese military is not Hezbolla,

and it's the Christians Maronites in

the Lebanese army who see

Hezbolla as the enemy.

Lebanon, Kamil Shimon: 'We will take 20,000 armed men
to the streets against Hezbollah'​

The war against Hezbollah is a central discourse in Lebanon and as we get closer to the moment of truth there are quite a few of Hezbollah's enemies who are preparing for Israel's attack on Hezbollah in order to fight against Hezbollah as well.

Kamil Shimon, a Maronite Christian, who heads the Free Nationalist Party (grandson of the Lebanese president in the 1950s) threatens Hezbollah:

"At dawn, we will take 20,000 armed men to the streets,
except for the soldiers of the Lebanese army."

Christian politician in Lebanon: “We have 20,000 militants, if Hezbollah attacks, we are ready”

Kamil Shimon was interviewed by local media - describing, among other things, a terrorist organization as “the party of Iran” • He blamed Hezbollah for the war, saying “they are the ones who should distribute financial compensation to the residents affected by this”

ground.news

Sure, some of the Christians in Lebanon oppose hezbollah. But your omitting a crucial fact. Right now, the general consensus in Lebanon among Christians and Muslims is that they are not happy with Israel attacking Lebanon.

And you need to accept the fact that some Hezbollah militants are Christian.

You have every right to support Israel, but please don’t engage in the hyperbole.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Many Zionists despise Christians as much as they do Muslims, many will say that the New Testament is the most antisemitic work ever published, full of fabrications designed solely to malign Jews. Christian churches are vandalized and ministers attacked, this has been increasing over the past years.

Incredibly though US evangelicals turn a blind eye to this and openly praise the state of Israel, it can do no wrong in their eyes.

The Israelis use a sophisticated target selection system, they are using it it Gaza to "determine" whether and address is a viable bombing target or not, do you know what the name of that system is? It's called "The Gospel" such is the state's contempt for minorities.

‘The Gospel’: how Israel uses AI to select bombing targets in Gaza​

 

[rylah]

Sure in previous conflicts some of the Christians in Lebanon supported Israel. But many of them did not. And certainly today it is a different matter completely. The general consensus across Lebanon is opposition to Israel attacking Lebanon.


I mean there are Jews in the Iranian military there’s like 20,000 Jews living in Iran. So going by your logic….well you get the point

If you’re attempting to say that Christians in Lebanon support Israel, of course that’s entirely wrong. Maybe you’re not saying that, but you need to not omit these facts in your post above.

Look you don't have to know it, to doubling down with that none sense to appear as you understand the subject or the context of the events, and Lebanon specifically, is excuse my French, is a pompous fried Fallafel.

This just goes to show the target audience of Candice's shows.

 

[rylah]

Here you go, pal. Look at all of these Arab Christians reacting negatively to Ted Cruz praising Israel.




Of course, Arab Christians oppose Muslim extremists. They also largely oppose many of Israelis policies… I’m sure that they are fine with Jewish people and Israeli people. They have an opposition to the Israeli government policies. It’s important to not omit these facts in your posts.

Trolling your own thread offtopic once faced with basic facts about Lebanon?

Dude, go do at least a basic research before lecturing.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Trolling your own thread offtopic once faced with basic facts about Lebanon?

Dude, go do at least a basic research before lecturing.

So typical, a person politely expresses their views and within minutes of your arrival the ad-hominem posts begin, why not call him an "antisemite", I know you want to...

 

[White 6]

I have seen reports like that. I have also see reports that a small amount of explosive was placed in these Golden Apollo pagers, through infiltration of the supply chain. I really do not know which is correct or if a string of code, directed at power management could trigger the batteries to literally explode. It is true, we have seen many fires started by power management involving lithium batteries, but actually, I thought the vast majority were while charging was taking place on thing like electric skateboards, golf carts. Most of the fires while vehicles have been in operation were fires, not explosions. I really do not know, though if I had a high powered Nicad powered device, I would have it charging in my garage. If the power management system on cell phones could be hacked to trigger explosive detonation of the Nicad battery, it would definitely make me move the charging cradles from our night stands to the dresser, across the room. If it is a real thing, it is only a matter of time, before it shows up, in this country. I simply do not know. Where do you charge yours at night?

 

[Billo_Really]

Important for people to take a step back and breathe in this topic. I recognize the arguments from both sides in this debate. Israel like any country including Lebanon has a right to defend itself.

Thing is who can recall anything like this happening before in history. And the precedent it sets around the world. Here’s the thing if Israel can do this frankly anybody can. What can this lead to? what if somebody targets iPhone users in America or anywhere in the world.?

And looking at the type of attack, Israel carried out. When you explode thousands of pages at once it can be viewed as a terrorist action because kids can get killed from that kind of stuff. And a few kids did die and more got injured by this Israeli operation

Also Lebanon is a country that is half Christian. Israel can’t play the whole Muslim card on this game. If they think of invading Lebanon btw , they’re going to be fighting a lot of Christians…. They need to think about the optics of this one.

Of coarse this is terrorism. Why should Israel get a free ride?