Are there too many educated intellectuals in the world?

[initforme]

I would miss my McChicken sandwich.

Youd be better of without it

 

[Woodznutz]

Youd be better off without it

Probably. I don't eat one very often.

 

[initforme]

Probably. I don't eat one very often.

Same here. An orange in the morning, small lunch and a decent sized dinner. Helps maintain weight.

 

[Moonglow]

Are people with big college educations a good thing? I ask this because I have recently been thinking about a book I read in 2009. The book is Intellectuals and Society by Dr. Thomas Sowell. Sowell is a black American so that book should have carried a lot more weight than it did especially in these postmodern times. But Sowell’s work, concise, clear and relevant to our time, was treated in academic circles like a diatribe released by what actor, singer and black activist Harry Belafonte, would call an “Uncle Tom” houseslave. Personally, I was impressed by Sowell’s breathtaking intelligence and his influence on my thinking was real and lasting. I have the 2009 edition; it was revised in 2012.

The reason I bring this to light is because of something I noticed years ago that seemed weird. Does anyone remember April Glaspie? Glaspie was George H.W. Bush’s Ambassador to Iraq in 1990. Bush dispatched her to Iraq to find out why Saddam Husein was massing troops along Kuwait’s border. Glaspie had what most would call a big college education, and she used that education to secure a position as an expert in Arab affairs.

When she got there Saddam told her he was considering taking over Kuwait and he wanted to know what the US would do if he invaded. Glaspie’s highly educated response was dumbfounding. She told Hussien that that the US “has no opinion on Arab/Arab affairs”. Now Saddam was not an English speaker and Glaspie knew that or at least with all her education she should have known that.

Glaspie returned to the US and Saddam promptly invaded Kuwait on what he interpreted as an ok by the US to take over that country. I know this happened because I saw it happen. One of the major points in Sowell’s book is that intellectuals, particularly highly educated intellectuals like Glaspie, do a lot of damage to society but are never held accountable. Bush and Glaspie are not just responsible for the Gulf War but in all likelihood the Arab Spring that followed. It seemed weird that Bush the elder was pontificating about Kuwait’s invasion as something that “cannot stand” when he and Glaspie brought it about. I saw that happen and neither one of them was ever held accountable for their disastrous incompetence.

Both Bush and Glaspie should have gone to the gallows for their ineptitude because it led to the attack on the World Trade Center years later after George Bush attacked Iraq to rescue his father’s image with the false flag of weapons of mass destruction which were never found. If Saddam ever had any WMD’s he probably got them through secret channels from the US anyway because Iraq was very useful to the US as a counterbalance to Iran which took US hostages.

Now that I think about it Sowell’s book makes a lot of sense and I am going to read it again.

April Glaspie - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Why don't you condemn her parents for getting married and having a child?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I would miss my McChicken sandwich.

I'd Rather Be Called a "Grammar Nazi" Than Not See Grammar


I'll miss "boneless ribs," especially because that's a truly educated example of "oxymoron," which is the opposite of what Eweniversity gradchewits think that word means.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Are people with big college educations a good thing? I ask this because I have recently been thinking about a book I read in 2009. The book is Intellectuals and Society by Dr. Thomas Sowell. Sowell is a black American so that book should have carried a lot more weight than it did especially in these postmodern times. But Sowell’s work, concise, clear and relevant to our time, was treated in academic circles like a diatribe released by what actor, singer and black activist Harry Belafonte, would call an “Uncle Tom” houseslave. Personally, I was impressed by Sowell’s breathtaking intelligence and his influence on my thinking was real and lasting. I have the 2009 edition; it was revised in 2012.

The reason I bring this to light is because of something I noticed years ago that seemed weird. Does anyone remember April Glaspie? Glaspie was George H.W. Bush’s Ambassador to Iraq in 1990. Bush dispatched her to Iraq to find out why Saddam Husein was massing troops along Kuwait’s border. Glaspie had what most would call a big college education, and she used that education to secure a position as an expert in Arab affairs.

When she got there Saddam told her he was considering taking over Kuwait and he wanted to know what the US would do if he invaded. Glaspie’s highly educated response was dumbfounding. She told Hussien that that the US “has no opinion on Arab/Arab affairs”. Now Saddam was not an English speaker and Glaspie knew that or at least with all her education she should have known that.

Glaspie returned to the US and Saddam promptly invaded Kuwait on what he interpreted as an ok by the US to take over that country. I know this happened because I saw it happen. One of the major points in Sowell’s book is that intellectuals, particularly highly educated intellectuals like Glaspie, do a lot of damage to society but are never held accountable. Bush and Glaspie are not just responsible for the Gulf War but in all likelihood the Arab Spring that followed. It seemed weird that Bush the elder was pontificating about Kuwait’s invasion as something that “cannot stand” when he and Glaspie brought it about. I saw that happen and neither one of them was ever held accountable for their disastrous incompetence.

Both Bush and Glaspie should have gone to the gallows for their ineptitude because it led to the attack on the World Trade Center years later after George Bush attacked Iraq to rescue his father’s image with the false flag of weapons of mass destruction which were never found. If Saddam ever had any WMD’s he probably got them through secret channels from the US anyway because Iraq was very useful to the US as a counterbalance to Iran which took US hostages.

Now that I think about it Sowell’s book makes a lot of sense and I am going to read it again.

April Glaspie - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The answer would be no

Thier are to many indoctrinated retards with phds that aren't worth a squirt of piss....

 

[Woodznutz]

Meh. You just made that up which explains the lack of links. I will not argue that a college grad is a "better" or "worse" person like you are trying out. That's bullshit. I am showing you that the outcomes are better for people and society with more education. People are people. Some good. Some bad. But the same person will end up with better outcomes with an education. Its irrefutable.

Links aren't needed for the obvious.

 

[toobfreak]

Does anyone remember April Glaspie? When she got there Saddam told her he was considering taking over Kuwait and he wanted to know what the US would do if he invaded. Glaspie’s highly educated response was dumbfounding. She told Hussien that that the US “has no opinion on Arab/Arab affairs”. Now Saddam was not an English speaker and Glaspie knew that or at least with all her education she should have known that. Glaspie returned to the US and Saddam promptly invaded Kuwait on what he interpreted as an ok by the US to take over that country. I know this happened because I saw it happen.

In fact, all the evidence indicates the opposite: Saddam Hussein believed it was highly likely that the United States would try to liberate Kuwait but convinced himself that we would send only lightly armed, rapidly deployable forces that would be quickly destroyed by his 120,000-man Republican Guard. After this, he assumed, Washington would acquiesce to his conquest. Additionally, Coll points to Saddam's admission years later, and recent supporting evidence, that the meeting with Glaspie had little impact on his intention to invade, which at the time of the meeting was already decided.

April Glaspie - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Links aren't needed for the obvious.

You are obviously wrong.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

More money provides all those things. Give a HS grad the same money and he or she will accrue the same benefits. College just gets one access to the 'treasury'. There is little added intrinsic human value conferred by a college education. The purpose of higher education is to better serve fellow man. Most college grads are more interested in serving themselves. The cynical thing about higher education is that grads don't dirty their hands on the human problems of mankind but focus on the shiny things that they can produce and sell to the mass market.

Who says that "The purpose of higher education is to better serve fellow man." That is merely your fallacious opinion.

 

[citygator]

Links aren't needed for the obvious.

Your claims are ridiculous. Link them or admit that is your uninformed opinion. I could give a shit about an uninformed opinion.

 

[Woodznutz]

Who says that "The purpose of higher education is to better serve fellow man." That is merely your fallacious opinion.

That's what 'commencement' is all about, sending the grads off to solve the world's problems.

 

[initforme]

Theres not near enough intellectuals. Perhaps our beloved corporate heads cherish this so they get their sheeple low wage workforce.

 

[Woodznutz]

Your claims are ridiculous. Link them or admit that is your uninformed opinion. I could give a shit about an uninformed opinion.

Of course, college grads make more money, but how does that translate to the betterment of society? Any links would just tout the accomplishments of the grads, not the obvious failures. If you look at the major problems of society many if not most can be laid at the feet of college grads.

 

[initforme]

Of course, college grads make more money, but how does that translate to the betterment of society? Any links would just tout the accomplishments of the grads, not the obvious failures. If you look at the major problems of society many if not most can be laid at the feet of college grads.

Well heck one can work in a factory for a whopping $17 per hour. Thats something to look forward to, or a long miserable existence.

 

[frigidweirdo]

It’s not so much that we have too much intelligence, education or intellectualism as it is that we have forgotten that intelligence, when not partnered with wisdom and realism can be extremely ineffective.

I’ve had the pleasure of being around many highly educated and intelligent people who failed because they lacked wisdom or a true understanding of here world actually works.

And "wisdom" is what idiots come up with.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

That's what 'commencement' is all about, sending the grads off to solve the world's problems.

Oh, grow up.

 

[Woodznutz]

Well heck one can work in a factory for a whopping $17 per hour. Thats something to look forward to, or a long miserable existence.

Some people like physical work.

 

[Woodznutz]

Oh, grow up.

That all you got?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

It's all I need. When you start telling the facts, I will let you know.