Are there any positives at all to attribute to Capitalism?

[Samson]

Trade is barter

Barter and capitalism are not the same thing

Yes they are.

You're weaving and dodging the fact is comical, and I mean idiotically in the kindest sense.

Would you be happier if we use "money" for trade?

Hmmmmm......how long have humans been using "money?"

Maybe you should take a history course.

 

[JBeukema]

Trade is barter

Barter and capitalism are not the same thing

Yes they are.

It's funny how stupid you are.

Barter is simply trade and can occur within any sociopolitical setting, regardless of other economic systems in place.

Capitalism is a system in which the proletariat sell their labour power/themselves as servants to the capitalists who own the means of production at a fraction of the surplus value they will create. It is a system rooted in and based upon exploitation and the immediate dependency of the proletariat upon the capitalist for his survival, which came about through the primitive accumulation of capital and the use of force to subjugate the masses in the third world and also through the early monopolies and trusts which created the modern class distinctions with the coming of the industrial revolution.

There is also the capitalist stage of socioeconomic development within a civilization, which I explained to you several pages back.

Capitalism has time and again proven that it necessarily tends towards the rise of an aristocratic oligarchy and the brutal enslavement of the world proletariat. This was once known as colonialism and eo-colonialism, although today it;s given the politically correct name 'outsourcing' when those to be exploited are out of sight and out of mind to the consumer class.

The consumer class, in turn, arose from the proletariat with the socialist reforms that were achieved in the West before technology enabled multinational corporations to more effectively circumvent the authority of nation-states they could not wholly control.

That you're wholly ignorant of both historical and current trends is painfully obvious.

 

[JBeukema]

Now go back to the sushi restaurant and see if they'll let you marry your supper. At least having sex with seafood is one thing you seem capable of figuring out.

 

[Samson]

Trade is barter

Barter and capitalism are not the same thing

Yes they are.

It's funny how stupid you are.

Barter is simply trade and can occur within any sociopolitical setting, regardless of other economic systems in place.

Capitalism is a system in which the proletariat sell their labour power/themselves as servants to the capitalists who own the means of production at a fraction of the surplus value they will create. It is a system rooted in and based upon exploitation and the immediate dependency of the proletariat upon the capitalist for his survival, which came about through the primitive accumulation of capital and the use of force to subjugate the masses in the third world and also through the early monopolies and trusts which created the modern class distinctions with the coming of the industrial revolution.

There is also the capitalist stage of socioeconomic development within a civilization, which I explained to you several pages back.

Capitalism has time and again proven that it necessarily tends towards the rise of an aristocratic oligarchy and the brutal enslavement of the world proletariat. This was once known as colonialism and eo-colonialism, although today it;s given the politically correct name 'outsourcing' when those to be exploited are out of sight and out of mind to the consumer class.

The consumer class, in turn, arose from the proletariat with the socialist reforms that were achieved in the West before technology enabled multinational corporations to more effectively circumvent the authority of nation-states they could not wholly control.

That you're wholly ignorant of both historical and current trends is painfully obvious.

It must have taken awhile for you to cut-and-paste that into the post.

But it doesn't change the fact that Human civilization's history is about the tenets of capitalism, regardless if it's form of barter or trade.

Thanks for playing, but I'm done pawning you

G'night.

 

[JBeukema]

Yes they are.

It's funny how stupid you are.

Barter is simply trade and can occur within any sociopolitical setting, regardless of other economic systems in place.

Capitalism is a system in which the proletariat sell their labour power/themselves as servants to the capitalists who own the means of production at a fraction of the surplus value they will create. It is a system rooted in and based upon exploitation and the immediate dependency of the proletariat upon the capitalist for his survival, which came about through the primitive accumulation of capital and the use of force to subjugate the masses in the third world and also through the early monopolies and trusts which created the modern class distinctions with the coming of the industrial revolution.

There is also the capitalist stage of socioeconomic development within a civilization, which I explained to you several pages back.

Capitalism has time and again proven that it necessarily tends towards the rise of an aristocratic oligarchy and the brutal enslavement of the world proletariat. This was once known as colonialism and eo-colonialism, although today it;s given the politically correct name 'outsourcing' when those to be exploited are out of sight and out of mind to the consumer class.

The consumer class, in turn, arose from the proletariat with the socialist reforms that were achieved in the West before technology enabled multinational corporations to more effectively circumvent the authority of nation-states they could not wholly control.

That you're wholly ignorant of both historical and current trends is painfully obvious.

It must have taken awhile for you to cut-and-paste that into the post.

Says the moron who replies to getting schooled by pasting an image macro

Some of us can think- and write- for ourselves, nitwit. Clearly, that's beyond the scope of your intellect.

 

[JBeukema]

Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level: 15.83

Fog Scale Level: 20.87


How shocking that you can't grasp it. In the future, I'll try to take your functional illiteracy into account.

 

[Bern80]

The existence of fiat is a necessary and sufficient condition for a system to be capitalist?

Where do you come up with this stuff?

The etymology of the word capital has roots in the trade and ownership of animals. The Latin root of the word capital is capitalis, from the proto-Indo-European kaput, which means "head", this being how wealth was measured. The more heads of cattle, the better. The terms chattel (meaning goods, animals, or slaves) and even cattle itself also derive from this same origin.

Capitalism - Etymology

Never said it was necessary. The point being made is that they are similar systems in which parties are free decide amongst themselves which exchanges are fair and which aren't.